To Adapt or to be Adapted to. To Host or to be a Guest.

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Liamson

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There is a lot to be said about having home field advantage in a relationship.

I've noticed that when I'm in a relationship with someone and its majorly in their world and on their terms, It tends to fail miserably. I don't know if its because I'm a bad guest or what.

But when its an invasion of my life, It seems to work out exponentially better for everyone. More chill, more adventures and positively no drama.

Here is my dilemma though, I think its a cultural thing. I think its expected that a Man should have his relationship in a woman's world. I think women who value wanting to feel secure, see hosting as safe, and therefore they expect it. Its the old "Come over and I'll make you dinner" thing. Its even in Movies: Top Gun, Advantage Instructor. Thor, Advantage Padme. Breakfast at Tiffany's, Advantage Holly. The Princess Bride, Advantage Buttercup.

The opposite usually works out as good if not better. Ironman, advantage Tony Stark. Pride & Predjudice, Advantage Mr. Darcy. The Fifth Element, Advantage Mr. Dallas. Pretty Woman, Advantage Richard Gere. Star Wars, Advantage Han Solo.

But true Balance is ridiculously rare: Garden State, there is no real advantage. He is new and she is along for the ride. They even explore my premise a little.

The difference is that I think a Man in a woman's world is expected to Perform and be the Entertaining Charming Sociable Gentleman at all times. But the opposite is not the same. In a man's world, he can let his guard down and everything is less... I don't even know what the word is. (sensitive?)

Here is a scenario: lets say, J'vonda comes over hangs out on Saturday we play some video games, snag some food, she naps on my couch while I figure out our next adventure and then we go for a hike or road trip or whatever. No harm, no foul, no drama, mi casa es su casa. Or if I'm already going on an adventure, I can pick her up on the way.

The next Saturday, I come over to J'vonda's house. We cook, but for some reason she won't let me help with the dishes, that I made dirty in the first place. Her cat tries to eat me and in the struggle of me trying to remove his claws from my lap, I'm somehow the bad guy. If I pull a book off the shelf, I'm the bad guy because apparently she has personal stuff written in the margins of her whole library or the book is fragile/expensive and apparently I have the finesse of a Cave Troll. Then comes the awkward "So what do you want to do?"

I don't remember any epic adventures that started with two people tossing that question back and forth. Its usually a sign that someone is not comfortable with whats going on.



I guess my question is, Am I the only one this happens to?
 
*whistles*

I've had some great experiences with guys coming into my world who were my friends. We went on adventures, played games, talked about God, joked around, woke up to gross raspberries on the cheek....

but I've also had great experiences entering into the guy's world and having a great time. I think it depends on the people, time and circumstances. I don't think it's a make it or break it kinda deal either way. :/ But I could be wrong.
 
A problem of mine I supposed that my world is so pronounced it scares people off. Ergo a woman who shows but any interest in me will have to share it.

Advantage Q. *snap*
 
The next Saturday, I come over to J'vonda's house. We cook, but for some reason she won't let me help with the dishes, that I made dirty in the first place. Her cat tries to eat me and in the struggle of me trying to remove his claws from my lap, I'm somehow the bad guy. If I pull a book off the shelf, I'm the bad guy because apparently she has personal stuff written in the margins of her whole library or the book is fragile/expensive and apparently I have the finesse of a Cave Troll. Then comes the awkward "So what do you want to do?"

I see nothing wrong with her not letting you help with the dishes.. That's her allowing you to relax while she does some of the work. I also like to do this from time to time. You sit and chill while I take care of the cleaning. You're my guest after all. The other stuff is a bit odd, but I can't really judge based on the info given. Did you remove the cats claws by swatting at it with the back of your hand? :) Was the book that you chose from the shelf a bible study guide that might have personal answers written within? If so, maybe she should learn to keep sensitive stuff in her bedroom. But I don't see how it makes you the bad guy.
 
It is easy to feel a bit out of our element when we are a guest. There is more pressure to meet a certain standard maybe? It is even uncomfortable for some people being the host because even then, they may feel the need to meet some sort of expectation. Anyway, I think that happens to everybody, not just you.
 
It was a Psychology book about Personality Disorders.

And the Cat was Crazy, I wanted me to snuggle and pet it BUT, if I stop it would try and bite me. I didn't know. SO when it bit me, I tried to pull it up off my lap BUT, it sank its TALONS into my legs.


And if I help cook the Dinner with her, why would the Dishes be off limits?
 
I don't think the dishes are off limits... But if she wants to wash them and allow you to relax, why fight it? Some women really enjoy being able to care for a person, and this is just one way of doing that. A lot of women are nurturers. To help with the dishes is appreciated, I'm sure. I'm sure it doesn't mean "Ha! You think YOU can wash a dish? Silly man. I'll show you."

Men usually want a woman who will submit to her husbands authority in marriage. Showing a gentleman that you are willing to take care of him in this SMALL way is one way of doing that, in my opinion. You sit and relax as I take care of the kitchen. No big deal.
 
I have very little experience with allowing a man into my world. It has always gone the other way for me, even when I married. I left my family, friends, state, church, everything I knew for his world. After he passed, I was hesitant to allow a guy into the private world I shared with my son for my son's sake. I didn't want any "dating" mistakes I might make to affect my son, so anything I say here would be hypothetical, but what Bridget is saying makes perfect sense. Common courtesy-type stuff.

If you don't want a guy (or woman) you're dating to touch your personal stuff, don't keep your personal stuff in shared spaces. I LOVE having people in the kitchen when I'm cooking, but I don't like having anyone (male OR female) help me clean up because I'm VERY picky about the cleanliness of my kitchen. :) If a guy understands how weird I am about that and volunteers to help do dishes, I would be okay with it. :)

I don't have a problem with someone not wanting my pet to damage their clothes or inflict bodily harm, as long as the person is not abusive in any way, anymore than I would expect them to accept my child behaving rudely toward them. It's unreasonable.

I appreciate your thread, Liamson. This is something I need to learn. :)
 
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Well, I really am a pet person and it doesn't matter if its a Betta or a llama, animals love me and I love Animals.

Even dogs who hate men, love me. (Not sure if that is a good thing.)


But, In the Beginning of my experience with Dating and Relationships. I was always in the middle of having people over and having my place as the base camp for stuff.

But I've realized that its not equal and it doesn't work both ways.
 
I usually don't like being a Host, as I find my world to be too intimidating. I remember when I was around 15 I was afraid of having friends over. I rarely invited any of them to my house, and if I did, it was only my closest ones. There was too much drama in my family and I didn't want to scare people away with it, I thought they would stop liking me, so I always preferred to be a Guest. I spent a lot of time with my best friend's family, and I even wished sometimes I could have her life instead of mine.

I don't wish this anymore, but I've learned to adapt, as along as it's a healthy thing to do. I want my spouse to know my life too, even if it's not perfect, and I want him to be comfortable where I am comfortable. One thing I learned from being a Guest and wishing I could be a better Host, is that feeling at home is one of the best feelings someone could have. Feeling that you are part of a family or part of someone's life is something I want my loved ones to have. House rules? we all have some. What matters the most is bringing Home to a house . If I can share Home with a man, then I would know that we can create our own home.
 
Yes, KM.

That was actually my motivation for being a good host when I was like 20.

I wanted people to be able to come to my "place" and feel like they could feel welcome. When I was growing up I didn't have that. My Home life was Chaotic and unpredictable. So I never had friends over. But like you I had a family that I wished I could have called my own.
 
Yes, KM.

That was actually my motivation for being a good host when I was like 20.

I wanted people to be able to come to my "place" and feel like they could feel welcome. When I was growing up I didn't have that. My Home life was Chaotic and unpredictable. So I never had friends over. But like you I had a family that I wished I could have called my own.

Yeah, the brightside of having to live as Guests is that we learned how to be good Hosts. Maybe it was not that bad after all.