Is abortion murder?

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That's my point: he should have made us so we can "sustain" ourselves.

Anyway, yea, good luck.
Dark Void, First of all your tag reveals your state, Why are you on this blog. It seems to me that you are searching. I f you have had abortion's I want you to know that God loves you and his hand is out reached to you. Although, murder is wrong or why would there be laws against it. God still gives the murderer a chance to admit what they did was wrong and if they ask for forgiveness and accept the work that Jesus did on the cross. Then there slate is wiped clean. Look and see that Moses who wrote the law by the commandment of GOD was a murderer. But, yet He pleaded with GOD and GOD made him the deliverer of his people.
 
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hopesprings

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I don't see that as murder. I only call it murder if its an innocent person who is killed.

An I wud not think it was boring.
What constitutes innocence?
 
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"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he."Why, what's the matter?""Nothing, Pooh Bear, nothing. We can't all, and some of us don't. That's all there is to it."
"Can't all what?" said Pooh, rubbing his nose.
"Gaiety. Song-and-dance. Here we go round the mulberry bush."
Haha, nice comparison. Made me "chuckle" *eyeroll*

anarchy is well thought out?
on any level?
nah....only in games.



haha....any games you play are eliciting desired responses in you, and configuring your worldview.
the trick is you're not aware they're not your thoughts.
just as we see.
dat's how it works.

makes ya unable to think or reason for yourself.
works by exciting chemical reactions in the brain.
depending on what is desired of you.

violence; sexual perversion; numbness; inability to bond; gambling; risk-taking; anarchist leanings, and so on.

real anarchy doesn't exist.
it's a shallow-utopian fiction given to naive kids...so they rebel.
or are otherwise incapacitated.

or end up in jail.
working for 10 cents a day.
oh plz. There are plenty of people who like the same stuff I do and don't share my worldview, so your theory is not even relevant.

Just give it a rest.
 

zone

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DarkVoid:

Re: Is abortion murder?

is it?
if not why not.
if not sure, why not?
 
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hopesprings

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Can't you answer that for yourself? -.-
Hmm...I could but I'm pretty sure my answer would differ from yours. I am interested in your answer, if you have the time :)
 
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Buff_Old_Guy

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*sigh* I guess not having done any serious crime...
Hey Dark Void.... I had a vision when I prayed for God to give me one. He exists... what are you looking for... I noticed you've been on this thread since almost the beginning of it. I didn't read all your posts but I noticed. What are you looking for? If you want the truth. Here it is.. God exists. I know it because I have seen super natural things. That should answer all your questions. So, whats up?
 
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hopesprings

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*sigh* I guess not having done any serious crime...
Serious crimes would be decided by the people tho...so there would still be a set of rules established that people would have to follow and if you didn't follow them you would be considered guilty of breaking the law. Right? So, if 'crimes' were deemed such based on majority vote, then you still have majority dictating what is acceptable for everyone else. That isn't really a lot different then God giving a 'set of rules', is it? Except that we don't get a say in the matter. God's 'rules' aren't that heinous. The ones you mentioned are included in His rules..where do you think you got them from? The difference between God's 'rules' and man's rules is that man does things in the interest of himself. God's law shows us how to do things in the interest of others.

I know it's tough....we want everything our way because we think we can run it better then God. We think we can stand in judgment of God when He does something that we feel is unjust. But, is it unjust when our measure for justice comes from Him? He never breaks His own word. He keeps all His own rules. The problem with us is that we can't keep His rules...we can't be perfect like He is. That is often times why we find His law unjust. But...but...the law was only given to lead us to Christ. God knew we could never be perfect like Him, so what did He do...He became a man and died for us, buying that perfection for us by His blood. It could not possibly be more personal. God died for you. Because He loves you, Dark. Because he knows that you are not perfect...that you are angry and hurt and lonely. He knows that you are broken without Him and He wants to fill you with His love, the love He bought for you when He died on the cross.

I really pray that you would look into this stuff a little more. Get a bible, if you don't have one, and start reading it. I will be praying for you...and if you have any questions, feel free to message me. :)
 
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Buff_Old_Guy

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God is good. He is my lord, my master and from what I know... from among all beliefs. There is nothing out there that is like God's ways because ONLY God's ways are good. It's obvious.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I don't see it as murder cuz its not born yet. (Simple)
lets look at this.

You mother decided to abort you instead of having you

You were never born

You were never able to do what you have done, be your part in the world. And learn. for that matter, even be here to say abortion is not murder.

Now in this senerio. Since your life never happened.. Would it not be murder? You mom would have killed you.
 

zone

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I don't see it as murder cuz its not born yet. (Simple)
i see.
well, gaming creates desensitization.
so you can probably hold up under the horror of looking for yourself.
simply google images of it.

then come back here and tell me what you believe.

any chance you could do that today?
since today there will be between 3500 and 5000 (reported) abortions in the U.S.

then tomorrow, the same.
and the next day, and the next, and the next.

it's either important because it's murder, or it's nothing at all.
go look at pictures, then come back here and tell me which it is.

you don't need to be an expert, this isn't over your pay grade.
you just need to look at real pictures, not digital game images.
okay?

i'll check back on that this afternoon (by which time 2000 more will be done)
 

zone

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I don't see it as murder cuz its not born yet. (Simple)
hi DV
you said innocence is/means "not having committed any serious crime".
after you look at the abortion pictures (an anarchist has to prepare to see bad things),
could you tell me what serious crimes were committed?
who committed crimes?
which is the innocent party?

was any crime committed?
 
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lets look at this.

You mother decided to abort you instead of having you

You were never born

You were never able to do what you have done, be your part in the world. And learn. for that matter, even be here to say abortion is not murder.

Now in this senerio. Since your life never happened.. Would it not be murder? You mom would have killed you.
Still don't think its murder.

hi DV
you said innocence is/means "not having committed any serious crime".
after you look at the abortion pictures (an anarchist has to prepare to see bad things),
could you tell me what serious crimes were committed?
who committed crimes?
which is the innocent party?

was any crime committed?
Just cuz something looks bad does not mean it always is. (Looks can be deceiving)

And well abortion may be a "crime" but not a serious one...