Dual Covenant Theology

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Dual Covenant Theology: True or False

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zone

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meanwhile, back at the ranch...



you like yours loaded don't ya?
 
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Well when i came back to my hometown they were choosing a drag queen after a gay parade.
Having been in the army a few years i went into culture shock.

But i did notice that the more outcry, the more publicity it got.
Since then ive learned to speak out but not in a way to cause
free advertising.

We live in a Christian culture who has been trained to think judging
by their fruit means whoever is "nicest" is the good guy. Although
when Jesus said they will wear sheeps clothing, thats not brought
out and taught much. Nor even what Jesus meant by fruit.

So to be wise as serpents we cant forget his strategies and end up
in our many labors playing into the hand of our enemy.
And do his work. Thats my story.
 
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Well when i came back to my hometown they were choosing a drag queen after a gay parade.
Having been in the army a few years i went into culture shock.

But i did notice that the more outcry, the more publicity it got.
Since then ive learned to speak out but not in a way to cause
free advertising.

We live in a Christian culture who has been trained to think judging
by their fruit means whoever is "nicest" is the good guy. Although
when Jesus said they will wear sheeps clothing, thats not brought
out and taught much. Nor even what Jesus meant by fruit.

So to be wise as serpents we cant forget his strategies and end up
in our many labors playing into the hand of our enemy.
And do his work. Thats my story.
And are you sticking to it?
 

zone

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Well when i came back to my hometown they were choosing a drag queen after a gay parade.
Having been in the army a few years i went into culture shock.

But i did notice that the more outcry, the more publicity it got.
Since then ive learned to speak out but not in a way to cause
free advertising.

We live in a Christian culture who has been trained to think judging
by their fruit means whoever is "nicest" is the good guy. Although
when Jesus said they will wear sheeps clothing, thats not brought
out and taught much. Nor even what Jesus meant by fruit.

So to be wise as serpents we cant forget his strategies and end up
in our many labors playing into the hand of our enemy.
And do his work. Thats my story.
right.
i prefer straight-forward though.
code(s) of silence is what got us into this mess.

it astounds me to see so much confusion.
when it's totally unnecessary.
the common denominator is easily discerned.

i'll take my chances.

i'm old now anyways.
what can man do to me?:rolleyes:
 

zone

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Hey that means I'm old too. I just thought they moved me to the as is bin :p
hehehe....you're forever young sister sarah.



present(s) for ya.
take care of 'em...i might need one:cool:
 
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hehehe....you're forever young sister sarah.



present(s) for ya.
take care of 'em...i might need one:cool:
Yeah I'm just falling apart (Piece by piece by piece) :p

Thanks I could use one. (And I could keep up with them)
Of course you can use them any time you like
:)

Although at this time of year these might be a bit more practical

 
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2 Cor 5 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because ​ONLY in Christ is it taken away! 15Even to this day when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail will be taken away
 
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zone

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2 Cor 5 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because ​ONLY in Christ is it taken away! 15Even to this day when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail will be taken away
right.

so, if we could just have Moses actually read, instead of Oral Traditions, we'd be getting somewhere.

Luke 16
Divorce and Remarriage

18“Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

The Rich Man and Lazarus
19“There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side.f The rich man also died and was buried, 23and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 24And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 25But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 27And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house— 28for I have five brothersg—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 29But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”


he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.


er...no...Moses won't do it apparently...the heart has to turn to The Lord.

i wonder how that happens.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
 
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​If we, individually, and corporately as the church, are the temple and habitation of God, do you think that if another temple is built in Jerusalem that God will dwell in two temples at once? Or if Christians are the temple ,what could be considered an abomination that would make desolate,or cause God to leave. Take heed if the light in you be darkness....how great is that darkness ....Darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness the people....
 
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zone;931418 [B said:
er...no...Moses won't do it apparently...the heart has to turn to The Lord.

i wonder how that happens.
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I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. [SUP]27 [/SUP]And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws
Ezekiel 36:26&27
 

zone

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I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. [SUP]27 [/SUP]And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws
Ezekiel 36:26&27
ya...you're a little late.
His Name is Jesus of Nazareth.

and He sent a Helper afterwards.
a fuzzy day you're not familiar with...called Pentecost.

a plain reading of scripture helps.
mind you, i'm not certain God reveals anything to people who worship the creation instead of The One True God.


Zechariah 8:8
and I will bring them to dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in faithfulness and in righteousness.”

Isaiah 62:11
The LORD has made proclamation to the ends of the earth: "Say to the Daughter of Zion, 'See, your Savior comes! See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him.'"

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Luke 24:27
And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

John 3:3
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

John 3:5
Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:3
You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

Hebrews 8 c. 68AD
Jesus, High Priest of a Better Covenant

1Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2a minister in the holy places, in the true tenta that the Lord set up, not man. 3For every high priest is appointed to offer gifts and sacrifices; thus it is necessary for this priest also to have something to offer. 4Now if he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since there are priests who offer gifts according to the law. 5They serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things. For when Moses was about to erect the tent, he was instructed by God, saying, “See that you make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.” 6But as it is, Christb has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.

8For he finds fault with them when he says:c

“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah,
9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers
on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt.
For they did not continue in my covenant,
and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
after those days, declares the Lord:
I will put my laws into their minds,
and write them on their hearts,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
11 And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor
and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
for they shall all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful toward their iniquities,
and I will remember their sins no more.”

13In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

^ c. 68AD ^
 
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mind you, i'm not certain God reveals anything to people who worship the creation instead of The One True God.

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What ya really mean is, your not certain God would reveal anything other than to a scholar or theologian;)
 
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mind you, i'm not certain God reveals anything to people who worship the creation instead of The One True GodQUOTE]

We know of course who the one true God is

Now this is eternal life, that they may know you(the Father), the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent
John 17:3
 

zone

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What ya really mean is, your not certain God would reveal anything other than to a scholar or theologian;)
no, i said what i meant:

i'm not certain God reveals anything to people who worship the creation instead of The One True God.

Arians of any stripe.
 
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​If we, individually, and corporately as the church, are the temple and habitation of God, do you think that if another temple is built in Jerusalem that God will dwell in two temples at once? Or if Christians are the temple ,what could be considered an abomination that would make desolate,or cause God to leave. Take heed if the light in you be darkness....how great is that darkness ....Darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness the people....


Nope...never! But another will come in his own name and him they will receive.
 
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no, i said what i meant:

i'm not certain God reveals anything to people who worship the creation instead of The One True God.

Arians of any stripe.
I meant what I said too:

We know of course who the one true God is

Now this is eternal life, that they may know you(the Father), the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent
John 17:3