What does "limited atonement" mean?
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I did a big naughty when i was younger knowing i could end up in prison.
My conscience became half seared in that activity and my heart grew hard.....poof
after a short time in jail i didnt do naughty things anymore. But i know how that
stuff works...The parable of the sower and the seed gives insights on that also.
My conscience became half seared in that activity and my heart grew hard.....poof
after a short time in jail i didnt do naughty things anymore. But i know how that
stuff works...The parable of the sower and the seed gives insights on that also.
why would you say this?
do you not believe at the very least you are elected to salvation?
why say it like that chris?
it's that kind of thing that doesn't help at all.
there are passages we absolutely have to see are in scripture.
we may never agree on what they mean, but election is God's idea, and His plan.
whatever it means.
even if you believe He saw in eternity past that you chose Him, and He elected you on that basis, it still means He elected you. and if "elite elect" is the way you deride that, so be it.
Romans 8
26Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, becausef the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,g for those who are called according to his purpose. 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
do you not believe at the very least you are elected to salvation?
why say it like that chris?
it's that kind of thing that doesn't help at all.
there are passages we absolutely have to see are in scripture.
we may never agree on what they mean, but election is God's idea, and His plan.
whatever it means.
even if you believe He saw in eternity past that you chose Him, and He elected you on that basis, it still means He elected you. and if "elite elect" is the way you deride that, so be it.
Romans 8
26Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, becausef the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,g for those who are called according to his purpose. 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
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When i found out He hated sin(before i understood the gospel) i sorta snuck off.
But my conscience always bugged me out. I tried my best to be a goldmedalist
sinner and made it almost 2 years after i heard the gospel and gave up...in fear
He wouldnt take any more of my business..was about 18. Not sure what to say.
But i do know He wood me since i had a memory.
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why would you say this?
do you not believe at the very least you are elected to salvation? --God has chosen those who are in Christ to be His people (I have chosen you, you have not chosen me. I shall call those who were not a people my people).
why say it like that chris? To me, that was the logical conclusion and was meant as an insight. But, if I offend by the way I said it, I apology to you and anyone else.
it's that kind of thing that doesn't help at all. --Yes, I am sorry.
there are passages we absolutely have to see are in scripture.
we may never agree on what they mean, but election is God's idea, and His plan.
whatever it means.
even if you believe He saw in eternity past that you chose Him, and He elected you on that basis, it still means He elected you. and if "elite elect" is the way you deride that, so be it. --I remember someone, I think Psychomom, who said: the few, the elect (something along that line) and thus: elite elect.
Romans 8
26Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, becausef the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,g for those who are called according to his purpose. 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
why would you say this?
do you not believe at the very least you are elected to salvation? --God has chosen those who are in Christ to be His people (I have chosen you, you have not chosen me. I shall call those who were not a people my people).
why say it like that chris? To me, that was the logical conclusion and was meant as an insight. But, if I offend by the way I said it, I apology to you and anyone else.
it's that kind of thing that doesn't help at all. --Yes, I am sorry.
there are passages we absolutely have to see are in scripture.
we may never agree on what they mean, but election is God's idea, and His plan.
whatever it means.
even if you believe He saw in eternity past that you chose Him, and He elected you on that basis, it still means He elected you. and if "elite elect" is the way you deride that, so be it. --I remember someone, I think Psychomom, who said: the few, the elect (something along that line) and thus: elite elect.
Romans 8
26Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, becausef the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,g for those who are called according to his purpose. 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
ya...i just wondered if you could say what you see...not talk about calvinism at all.
just show it as you see it. like a study.
without mixing or contrasting it to calvinism.
cuz i think that's where some of us (me) go haywire.
if there's a totally separate view, that covers all the nuances we are discussing i would love to see it.
maybe you could recommend an author or two to help me understand?
sometime? not today.
thanks mikey
i got Lutheranism down....so if there's another thing i'm not seeing i want to.
just show it as you see it. like a study.
without mixing or contrasting it to calvinism.
cuz i think that's where some of us (me) go haywire.
if there's a totally separate view, that covers all the nuances we are discussing i would love to see it.
maybe you could recommend an author or two to help me understand?
sometime? not today.
thanks mikey
i got Lutheranism down....so if there's another thing i'm not seeing i want to.
I say i believed all were looking for the Light in this life and was so keen to share the Good news only to have a negative reaction.. this humbled me.
For all this Love and Joy i have received is "out of this world" and i'm content and realized that i must not attempt to put the Almighty in a little box based on what i know or believe..
Love and Trust Him in all things rather than answer that may be out of our capacity to comprehend.
For all this Love and Joy i have received is "out of this world" and i'm content and realized that i must not attempt to put the Almighty in a little box based on what i know or believe..
Love and Trust Him in all things rather than answer that may be out of our capacity to comprehend.