I Don't Believe There is a God

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Elizabeth619

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I believe its called free speech :p
Free speech doesn't mean an individual has more knowledge than the other.


How are ya btw? Haven't seen you on in a while. Hope you're doing well.
 
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Buff_Old_Guy

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I believe its called free speech :p
And I just want tell you... be serious. And there's this site I wanted to refer you to that explains very well that Jesus Christ resurrected.

THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST - Evidence for & about the Resurrection of Christ Jesus

After reading this, think about why Jesus died. Was it in your best interest for Jesus to die for you... so that you have the option of accepting him as your savior. So, you have a chance of going to Heaven instead of Hell? Think about that and ask if that was in your best interest.
 
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Free speech doesn't mean an individual has more knowledge than the other.


How are ya btw? Haven't seen you on in a while. Hope you're doing well.
Didn't say I know more. Said I probably know about as much.

And I'm surviving lol
 
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Vipin

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It is God who gives us strength to live on earth.
 
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danschance

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I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD WHATSOEVER! However, I'm skeptical. If one of you can give me a solid reason as to why I should believe in God, and I mean a really good reason, I will admit on here that God is real. But I have to tell you that I don't think any of you can give me a solid reason because there isn't any proof.
One can not prove God. One must accept God thru faith and by faith alone. The fact that there is no evidence for God does not imply there is no God. That is a conclusion you have made on your own. If you can prove that God does exist, then you have also proven the bible, the Jewish faith and Christianity to be false.

And it is impossible to please God without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him. Hebrews 11:6
 
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TosinAsLeader

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Right well I can't argue that because it's a nonsense argument which you can use to answer any question that stumps you. "We just can't grasp the knowledge he contains because it is too much for us to understand". Then why not create us with the ability to have the knowledge? Because god can do anything, so no, that's not a good argument.
Maybe our minds are strong enough, but we need to work towards the ultimate goal of understanding everything. It's not necessarily something that we can understand now. Possibly humans just aren't ready to understand everything, for the same reason you don't teach second-graders calculus. Perhaps there's some kind of greater understanding one receives in the afterlife, and time spent on earth is a sort of spiritual childhood.


I can't cover every single point or agrument made on this site. However, I want to point out that the author forms his own conclusions based on his views, not by being neutral.

One "contradiction," I will answer back to. First off, there are many views on the world being flooded. Some say it was just an area where the land was populated. Others say the whole world. If what history says is true, than there is a good chance that Mesopotamia was flooded and the people at the time have no migrated anywhere else. Mesopotamia has already had many flood issues with the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, so it would make sense if the survivors felt the whole world was flooded because that was their world.

If it was allegory, it was to show how G-d can take whomever he chooses, declare them holy or righteous, and cleanse [the created order] of its iniquity. Cleansing may have been needed to better the creation.
"really? Mohammad wrote the Korah, not G-d. All these other "holy," and "religion," books are man's examples of power control." Well I have an answer for this but I don't think you'd like it.
What is the answer to this then?

That ending kind of jumps around so I don't entirely get your point.

Who has searched the infinite universe to say that there IS a god? I'm not saying that there's not, because you're right I don't think it can be proven either way. The difference is, an ipod won't condemn you to hell for not getting found.

Except god would already know that adam and eve don't follow him, because he is all-knowing. Even before he made man he knew that this would happen. So he basically creates mankind already aware that they won't follow him, gets upset that they don't follow him, and as punishment gives us sin and hell, knowing full well that most of his people will end up there. He knew all this from the beginning, so why not tweak his creation so that they would follow him and lalala happily ever after.

Good question. Lets look at a relationship with a parent and a child. So the mom already knows her child lies all the time. Yet, she is willing to let her child know that she is going to trust her to not go to a party that has alcohol, drugs etc, but to go to her friends house like she said. Looking at this example shows that the mother is giving her child the free will to choose whether to obey or disobey her orders. That is what G-d did, in hopes that Adam and Eve would change their fate. To add to that, your fate can never be sealed to something because anything can change in the course of time. That was G-d's hope.
 
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TosinAsLeader

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my point was: he could have created us with the ability to understand his ways but he did not. why? to make us rely on him? why would he want us to be dependent? you ever been in a relationship with someone who tries to make you depend on them? yea, its not a good thing.
He is known as a jealousy G-d. Also, G-d's jealousy only goes so far as being a deity. He isn't jealous of us, and the very emotion of jealousy is only an anthropomorphism. A metaphor of what idolatry's effect has on our G-d. He made us and was to be our G-d, so when we replace Him with our idols or no worship, we're pretty much spitting in His face.




Well it would seem if there is a god then he is indeed "corrupted", or forsaken us, or maybe there is none? or if he is a loving god then he is powerless to help us and therefore not all-powerful, or maybe he is not all knowing so he did not know all the bad stuff that would happen or maybe he can't be everywhere at once and is busy with other parts of the universe and will get around to us on his 100,000 year check up?? who knows??

or maybe it is something else completely. so many possibilities...
True. We are all entitled to think of every possible reason to this dilemma. If he really forsaken us, he wouldn't have sent his Son to die as it says in the bible.

Unknowing enough to create the Sun, the Moon or planet Earth? As I said to "Batman007," about the flooding of the world or the Tree of Life. G-d already knew what would happen, but would hope that His creatures would choose the right way and change their fate.

(the quote thing kinda failed) -.-
That is no issue. All you do is click the white button next to the insert video button. Than two quote brackets will appear. Put the person you are quoting texts in in between. Then write a reply below the quote bracket with a "/"
 
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He is known as a jealousy G-d. Also, G-d's jealousy only goes so far as being a deity. He isn't jealous of us, and the very emotion of jealousy is only an anthropomorphism. A metaphor of what idolatry's effect has on our G-d. He made us and was to be our G-d, so when we replace Him with our idols or no worship, we're pretty much spitting in His face.
Well then "god" is not reasonable and he basically throws tantrums when he can't have his way. Figures.

True. We are all entitled to think of every possible reason to this dilemma. If he really forsaken us, he wouldn't have sent his Son to die as it says in the bible.

Unknowing enough to create the Sun, the Moon or planet Earth? As I said to "Batman007," about the flooding of the world or the Tree of Life. G-d already knew what would happen, but would hope that His creatures would choose the right way and change their fate.
Yea, assuming the events in the bible were not just a grand show. Nothing is proven. Or he could have forsaken us after the events of the bible. And just cus he knew how to create stuff did not mean he knew the future.

That is no issue. All you do is click the white button next to the insert video button. Than two quote brackets will appear. Put the person you are quoting texts in in between. Then write a reply below the quote bracket with a "/"
Ah, yea haha stupid me.
 
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Buff_Old_Guy

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Well then "god" is not reasonable and he basically throws tantrums when he can't have his way. Figures.



Yea, assuming the events in the bible were not just a grand show. Nothing is proven. Or he could have forsaken us after the events of the bible. And just cus he knew how to create stuff did not mean he knew the future.



Ah, yea haha stupid me.
Hey Dark Void, why are you ignoring my posts?
 
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TosinAsLeader

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Well then "god" is not reasonable and he basically throws tantrums when he can't have his way. Figures.
No thats looking at it from a human characteristic. Tell me, would you be happy if someone says they love you and then cheat on you? Same concept.


Yea, assuming the events in the bible were not just a grand show. Nothing is proven. Or he could have forsaken us after the events of the bible. And just cus he knew how to create stuff did not mean he knew the future.
Here is just one example. Nothing is proven? Archaeologist claims evidence of Noah’s biblical flood | Fox News

If he doesn't know the future than he surely couldn't have created the whole universe (and any others, yet to be discovered.), plus countless lifeforms which could be out there somewhere (if discovered.) Would you rather have faith in someone who knows the future? It may seem more of a faith/hope thing, but think about it.



Ah, yea haha stupid me.
LOL its no problem. It took my a whole month to figure this out really. BTW, I see your banned probably because you "hurt," someones feelings, but I can still attempt to answer your questions/logic. Just msg me or what not with another account of course.
 

NateDaGrimes

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yay he is banned ^_^... once everyone is banned i dont have to worry about this topic xD (its very lame and waste of brain space)
 
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TosinAsLeader

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yay he is banned ^_^... once everyone is banned i dont have to worry about this topic xD (its very lame and waste of brain space)
Or you can just unsubscribe. So your saying you are banning people just because you feel like it so you can ignore their questions which comes down to their fate of their souls? That is sad.,,.......
 

NateDaGrimes

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nah im saying this topic is old and waste of time to keep posting in
 
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Yourfriend4life

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my only question to is :

then WHY are you?

theres no mistake there its just

why are you?
 
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Yourfriend4life

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then you cannot hear what im asking

im asking she/he is even here in a state of being in the first place. im not really seeking an answer im incapable of helping an atheist in anyway. they seriously blown up mega sized egos and vanity. i shouldnt have asked. i dont care even alittle if she/he gets it or not.

my only advice i throw out to anyone is to learn humility
save yourself from great embarassment

God exist wheather you like it or not. more so then even you exist. you wouldnt exist without him. wheather you will admit it your actually dependent on him WHEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
 
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DannyC

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then you cannot hear what im asking

im asking she/he is even here in a state of being in the first place. im not really seeking an answer im incapable of helping an atheist in anyway. they seriously blown up mega sized egos and vanity. i shouldnt have asked. i dont care even alittle if she/he gets it or not.

my only advice i throw out to anyone is to learn humility
save yourself from great embarassment

God exist wheather you like it or not. more so then even you exist. you wouldnt exist without him. wheather you will admit it your actually dependent on him WHEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
The question 'Why are you?' doesn't mean 'are you even here in a state of being in the first place'.