Those who keep the law cannot kept in part only but, must keep the whole law. So if you want law where will you take your sacrafice. I is law that on every Sabbath there must be a lamb or bullock sacrificed by the priest on the brazen altar before the Holy of hollies. wherein is the ark of the covenant. If you can do that, then keep the law.
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When the course of action is given by the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, to deny that course of action as valid is wrong, and once aware of it, it is a forgiveable sin as are all except the one. No one claims to keep the law as you say like a true rabbinical student, what people are saying is to learn of Jesus, Yeshua, believe Him, and obey Him. Obedience and the desire to do so is more than sacrifice to our Father, yet never equal to the Sacrifice He has made for us in His Lamb, Jesus. To teach against the wisdom of the commandments and the laws is anti-Christ when done knowingly. Praise God, obey Him and see the blessings everywhere. God is good all of the time, amen.
Are you condemning me and saying that i am in sin. Because I believe that Jesus is my Sabbath. Is He not the Lord of the Sabbath and that my rest is in Him. If not then where do I rest by keeping law. that is work and not rest. In the words of Paul I rested once and the the commandment came and I died. Did He die, no he did not but spiritual He could not live by law and the freedom of Jesus Christ. He had to choose law or freedom in Christ.
The cross is my Sabbath and it was and is Paul's. Differ if you want. I will rest in the cross. If we think that our work by keeping Sabbath gets us one up with God. I will remind that the only thing that pleases God is faith. Faith in what, our works or His work. I place my faith in His work and that is the cross.
I say again, Jesus is my Sabbath.
I say again, Jesus is my Sabbath.
Then you belong to Paul and I belong to Jesus Christ. Is this what you are saying. There is really not a lot of sense in what you are posting. Jesus Christ does give us rest from the burdens weighed out by the hypocrites, but you will not find anywhere in the Word where Jesus teaches that He is the Sabbath. Also, as for your previous post intimating I am saying you are in sin, read it closely, it does not, however if your conscience is not clear in the sight of the Father, then perhaps you are in sin. I cannot say.
Really who did Jesus The Christ give more revelation to than Paul. If you have more insight then we sit at your feet as give the word. I trust that word given to Paul is the word of God. Bu, if you have been chosen to give more light than Paul gave. I sit at your feet.
Why was it given to Paul to write the majority of the new testament. We do not know, maybe it was by faith. That is something that most folks in this forum do not understand. The Just shall live by faith. Faith in what, Jesus Christ and Him crucified what else is there to believe in. Works. I think not. where in shall we rest. The Sabbath. or maybe feast day's. Or maybe if we fast for 21 days we shall find rest. You can work and observe all you want to. I rest in the cross. God's ultimate sacrifice that gives me liberty and freedom from law.
You certainly sound as though you belong to Paul, yes you do. I understand your viewpoint.
Have you actually read what Paul has written. Read for yourself what Paul says about this. He did not die on the cross to give the gospel, but if you insist, then you belong to Paul. My gospel and my allegiance is to God in Jesus, Yeshua. Why are you asking me to condemn you, and why do you act as though you know something most first month believers do not. The Holy Spirit gives to all all they need to know as pertaining to salvation; read it in the Word. It is there. Do not ask questions with such obvious answers. If you do not know by the Holy Spirit, I cannot force it on you.
The above is indicating that Paul did teach to keep the Commandments.
relaying what the Messiah taught.
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hermanodaniel
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Stop trying to reinterpret what Paul is saying because he’s quite clear in his epistles once you diligently compare what he is saying especially in Galatians and Romans. Many are being deceived and are attacking Paul when everything goes together perfectly without compromising anything thus evidence that He was inspired by God. I have seen many law abiding sects that advocate strict observance to the Law (Torah) in the form of the letter state or believe that one (directed at Christians) can quote Paul too much or place too much emphasis on Paul rather than the Messiah and His Words when Paul's writing are not his words to begin with, they are inspired by God! He was God's chosen instruments to expound the mysteries of the Gospel!
How can anyone even think of creating a division between Paul’s words and what Jesus spoke in the Gospel? Was Paul merely writing what he thought and was not inspired by God? No, because he spoke the Word of God but they make it seem as if the words that came out of the Messiah's mouth were superior when "Man lives off every Word of God" and the Pauline Epistles did not originate with Paul! (2 Peter 1:20-21) Thus we see that they are denying the Lord who bought them (2 Peter 2:1). How so? Well, Jesus Christ is the Word of God and the Bible as a whole is the Word of God there are no divisions in the Word of God meaning there is not one iota more inspired or weightier than the rest because "Man lives off every Word!" When we divide and minimize a portion of scripture as in the case of Paul's writings we are actually minimizing God's Word as a whole thus denying the very Word that saves us! As if people who live after the flesh causing division in the church wasn't enough (1 Corinthians 1) these law abiding sects have the audacity to divide the Scriptures claiming one portion (The Gospels containing the very words of Jesus Christ while on earth) to be superior or weightier than the rest not realizing that God being the author of His Word is not divided. One of the verses often cited by these law abiding sects is 2 Peter 3:15-16 where it states that Paul's writings are sometimes hard to understand and are then twisted or distorted resulting in the individuals own destruction. Here we see again that this is equivalent as denying the Lord who bought them as mentioned above in 2 Peter 2:1.
Isn't it amazing and even perplexing that the law abiding sects according to the letter are claiming we Christians are the ones twisiting Paul's words unto our destruction when they're the ones claiming we can quote Paul too much and some even go as far as to disregard Paul all together! They either own a Bible with some pages missing and/or they've ignored and neglected a great amount of Scripture to the point that I am also sure they don't even read those troubled passages no more as it poke holes in their theology. That's a very dangerous place to be in eventually some are later led by these seducing spirits to reject Paul completely. This eventually happens as they get frustrated with the Epistles that clearly exposes or contradicts their views and instead of rejecting those heretical views and accept the correction in love for the Spirit of God they become reprobates according to the faith. They get angry with Paul as if Paul's writings were his when in reality Paul's words were not his but from the actual Messiah they claim to believe in. The results are eternal, by their own words they will be acquitted or condemned. May God have mercy as His arm is not short to save.
How can anyone even think of creating a division between Paul’s words and what Jesus spoke in the Gospel? Was Paul merely writing what he thought and was not inspired by God? No, because he spoke the Word of God but they make it seem as if the words that came out of the Messiah's mouth were superior when "Man lives off every Word of God" and the Pauline Epistles did not originate with Paul! (2 Peter 1:20-21) Thus we see that they are denying the Lord who bought them (2 Peter 2:1). How so? Well, Jesus Christ is the Word of God and the Bible as a whole is the Word of God there are no divisions in the Word of God meaning there is not one iota more inspired or weightier than the rest because "Man lives off every Word!" When we divide and minimize a portion of scripture as in the case of Paul's writings we are actually minimizing God's Word as a whole thus denying the very Word that saves us! As if people who live after the flesh causing division in the church wasn't enough (1 Corinthians 1) these law abiding sects have the audacity to divide the Scriptures claiming one portion (The Gospels containing the very words of Jesus Christ while on earth) to be superior or weightier than the rest not realizing that God being the author of His Word is not divided. One of the verses often cited by these law abiding sects is 2 Peter 3:15-16 where it states that Paul's writings are sometimes hard to understand and are then twisted or distorted resulting in the individuals own destruction. Here we see again that this is equivalent as denying the Lord who bought them as mentioned above in 2 Peter 2:1.
Isn't it amazing and even perplexing that the law abiding sects according to the letter are claiming we Christians are the ones twisiting Paul's words unto our destruction when they're the ones claiming we can quote Paul too much and some even go as far as to disregard Paul all together! They either own a Bible with some pages missing and/or they've ignored and neglected a great amount of Scripture to the point that I am also sure they don't even read those troubled passages no more as it poke holes in their theology. That's a very dangerous place to be in eventually some are later led by these seducing spirits to reject Paul completely. This eventually happens as they get frustrated with the Epistles that clearly exposes or contradicts their views and instead of rejecting those heretical views and accept the correction in love for the Spirit of God they become reprobates according to the faith. They get angry with Paul as if Paul's writings were his when in reality Paul's words were not his but from the actual Messiah they claim to believe in. The results are eternal, by their own words they will be acquitted or condemned. May God have mercy as His arm is not short to save.
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hermanodaniel
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You're failing to see how their one in the same. Paul's word are of God and so are Jesus' words and the rest of the prophets so what you just stated makes absolutely no sense. Now this is clearly refusing to love the truth I pray and hope you can retract what you just said and not so you could be wrong and I can be right but rather that God can be glorified.
Which of us here is separating the words of the Messiah and Paul's writings.
Please take time to think this through.
Do you reject the writings of Paul. Paul continually leads us to the cross. Does your teaching do that. There is nothing but the cross. It is the only thing that God will accept or do you know another way. Paul teaches the cross. It is bible or do reject this part. Its all or not. Is it the infallible word of God or do we omit this part. My friend and brother we must accept the whole word of God and not just pieces.
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hermanodaniel
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Study to show thyself approve and Rightly divide the Word! This was not something Paul made up, it was from God! This is how we understand the Bible and not by simply highlighting a portion of scripture while neglecting the Bible as a whole.