Who do you think Killed Jesus?

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homwardbound

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If you think Satan has no power, and is done...you are living in dream world. He will come as the antichrist, destroy all religion, and most of the people of the world will turn their backs to God.
You think and believe what you want to believe but I no more live like a refugee and am honored to not deny Christ in the great tribulation coming it is an honor for me to be in God's plan to help others not take the mark and be of good cheer is seeing their loved ones killed right in front of them, knowing that they will be saved themselves bvecause they will remember Christ's words
Matthew 10:37Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And this will be the great test as was with Abraham and he passed because he knew the God was and is righteous and then he did this himself with his own Son and the power here is the resurrection
And the power in what is coming is in those that are here during this time are the ones that will overcome and literally go to their death for and watch others that they do value die in front of them, but not value them more than Christ. Christ as Christ already went to death for them as an exampleforall those coming into the tribulation yet this will go deeper playing ones emotions to what they care for here on earth as what the devil tried to get Jesus to go forwas this world and what it has to offer and it has nothing to offer me
Galatians 2:20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
 
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It is easy to be brave in saftey, but when you have the beast before you...that is the test.
Who was it that denied Jesus three times? “Know him? Naw, not me. Oh that guy…I’ve seen him around, but I don’t know him. Can’t say I’ve ever saw him before,,,no, I don’t know him.”
"COCK-A-DODOL-DO."
 
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stek

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Lets take a second step to the op. What was the reason Jesus had to die to save the human family from Adams sin?
John 3:17 [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him.
 

homwardbound

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It is easy to be brave in saftey, but when you have the beast before you...that is the test.
Who was it that denied Jesus three times? “Know him? Naw, not me. Oh that guy…I’ve seen him around, but I don’t know him. Can’t say I’ve ever saw him before,,,no, I don’t know him.”
"COCK-A-DODOL-DO."
Wow! so tell me who are you!!!!! should I guess should I play? What should I do, Hmmm!!!!!!!!
I am already dead, and back to life I am and have been tested. God just plain love me and all that will come to terms in belief
Perfect love casts out all fear and God is perect Love and Cock a Doodle Do back and Satan has been sripped of Satan's power the only power left runnig around is man's flesh trying to build this or that do this or that for this or that and is nothing to be compared to the love of God

Colossians 2:20You have died with Christ, and he has set you free from the spiritual powers of this world. So why do you keep on following the rules of the world, such as,
Colossians 2:8Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.
1 Peter 3:22Now Christ has gone to heaven. He is seated in the place of honor next to God, and all the angels and authorities and powers accept his authority.
Ephesians 6:12For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
Ephesians 2:2You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God.

Again so who are you, I will not know you by deceptive words of man's wisdom only by the power of the Spirit.
So tell us who Christ is?
 
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stek

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It is easy to be brave in saftey, but when you have the beast before you...that is the test.
Who was it that denied Jesus three times? “Know him? Naw, not me. Oh that guy…I’ve seen him around, but I don’t know him. Can’t say I’ve ever saw him before,,,no, I don’t know him.”
"COCK-A-DODOL-DO."
LOL the rooster was a trumpet and did not go "cock a dodol do". If memory serves me well the roster is the 3am trumpet call for all clear.
 
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You think and believe what you want to believe but I no more live like a refugee and am honored to not deny Christ in the great tribulation coming it is an honor for me to be in God's plan to help others not take the mark and be of good cheer is seeing their loved ones killed right in front of them, knowing that they will be saved themselves bvecause they will remember Christ's words
Matthew 10:37Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And this will be the great test as was with Abraham and he passed because he knew the God was and is righteous and then he did this himself with his own Son and the power here is the resurrection
And the power in what is coming is in those that are here during this time are the ones that will overcome and literally go to their death for and watch others that they do value die in front of them, but not value them more than Christ. Christ as Christ already went to death for them as an exampleforall those coming into the tribulation yet this will go deeper playing ones emotions to what they care for here on earth as what the devil tried to get Jesus to go forwas this world and what it has to offer and it has nothing to offer me
Galatians 2:20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Yeah, okay.
 
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#88
my heart is heavy today anyway. . .just one of those days.
but i agree none of us knows how we will respond if we were to meet our maker I suspect it might be with fear unless there were an overwhelming assurance of Love present . . .we will have to wait and see. Many Bible verses point to it being a fearful experience just to be in the presence of angels so i cant imagine could be 2 diff things...anyway.

I have often wondered if i would have the strength to not betray myself or family in the face of an ultimate question such as, "Do you know this Man?" and sadly when i search my heart . . .i am very human. Self-presevation kicks in. Love of family and self. The story of Abraham never set well with me. The answer of the creature sacrificed from the bush - no better.
What is it all about?
 
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[h=1]Wisdom Given to Timothy Regarding Those Who Killed Jesus the Christ

10/16/04 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Know this: Those who say the Jews condemned The Christ Jesus to death, speak rightly, for I, God Almighty, know all the works of men, and in that day did I harden their hearts, to accomplish My purpose in the salvation of men.
In the days of Abraham, even unto Moses, did I establish My people as the chosen, to give sacrifice for the cleansing of sin... And so they only, and only they, did I choose to carry out My will, according to the New Testament I have set forth with all men, in Christ Jesus. I gave them The Lamb, without blemish, for them to sacrifice for the cleansing of all men. No other nation would I allow to carry out My will in this, so all that written by the prophets of old would come to pass, and all that written of The Son of Man would be fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
I say to all those, who cry, “The Romans crucified The Christ, not the Jews”, you lack understanding, and do not know that which was written by the prophets and foretold in Psalms. Indeed the Romans crucified Him, for His blood is also on their hands, as was His blood on the hammer that drove the nails. Therefore, I ask you, are the Romans liken unto the hammer, or he who holds the hammer?...


Whose condemnation and guilt is greater?...

He who had placed the hammer in his hand? Or he who holds the hammer?...

I say, both are guilty.


But woe to those who placed the hammer in his hand, and caused him to strike the nail,
Not ceasing until the nail was completely driven through...

For they had honored and set free he, who had sinned greatly and committed murder...

And put to death He who had no sin in Him, nor lying in His mouth.


Likewise, in the days to come, shall the people raise up he, who has much sin and murder in his vesture, and much lying in his mouth... And deny Him who speaks holy and true, and wears the raiment of glory. To honor him, who serves the evil one, honors the devil. And to persecute those, who have the light, is to persecute He who is called The Light of the World... To these will The King cast into the fire. For this is their due reward, unless they come to full repentance, and shun he who has deceived them... And embrace He who had died for them, and lives forevermore to save them.


But those of greater wisdom know, all have sinned...

All men, who have lived on the earth, are guilty...

There is none righteous, no, not one...


And for this reason, The Christ was sent to die on the cross...

Thereby freeing all mankind from his chains,
Which bind him to the punishment of sin... Death.


So then, as Christ died for you, so must you crucify your flesh as did He,
And your life of old must die, so you can be reborn in the image of Christ...

And in following Him do you become like Him, in all your ways.


(LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST)
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The sermon yesterday was fitting to this end.

Our minister was talking on salvation and the keeping of the commandments. The story of the man who asked, "how do i get into the Kingdom of Heaven?"
Jesus answered him, "keep the commandments." To which he replied that he did. Jesus went on to teach the children's story of the camel and the needle's eye.
We cannot keep the commandments. "Thou shall not kill." easy enough? on the surface, yes. But what of anger in your hearts - how far are you willing to go to say, "I have kept the commandments."?
The giving up of earthly possessions - the camel thru the needle's eye. This is not just about what might easily come to mind as material wealth this includes the very things you hold most precious - those you love most. Abraham's son, Isaac.

Salvation must then be free. This was the message. atleast the parts i understood.
But i have many strongholds and many questions and misunderstandings with concepts in the Bible. Some i dont know if i will ever work out.
And it saddens me bc i fear my own heresy.
 
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Re: The Jews murdered Jesus...

Here we have a Christian explainining the entire bible's explantion of Jews in this post! Here in a few scriptures is all the answer to who killed Christ. I don't think so!

You don't believe those Scriptures?
 
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#92
Re: The Jews murdered Jesus...

Here we have a Christian explainining the entire bible's explantion of Jews in this post! Here in a few scriptures is all the answer to who killed Christ. I don't think so!
You don't believe the word of God in those Scriptures?
 
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Abiding

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domenic you can keep giving me the eye
but your not getting any of my bagal.
 

homwardbound

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my heart is heavy today anyway. . .just one of those days.
but i agree none of us knows how we will respond if we were to meet our maker I suspect it might be with fear unless there were an overwhelming assurance of Love present . . .we will have to wait and see. Many Bible verses point to it being a fearful experience just to be in the presence of angels so i cant imagine could be 2 diff things...anyway.

I have often wondered if i would have the strength to not betray myself or family in the face of an ultimate question such as, "Do you know this Man?" and sadly when i search my heart . . .i am very human. Self-presevation kicks in. Love of family and self. The story of Abraham never set well with me. The answer of the creature sacrificed from the bush - no better.
What is it all about?
Ask in sincereity in you to God and ask to know God not by man but by God to you personally, And God will show you. It is kind of like the Gold rush but much deeper, they sold everything to get to the gold, an dthis is just physical flesh and blood. I am talking Spiritual which is way beyond physical
 

homwardbound

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The sermon yesterday was fitting to this end.

Our minister was talking on salvation and the keeping of the commandments. The story of the man who asked, "how do i get into the Kingdom of Heaven?"
Jesus answered him, "keep the commandments." To which he replied that he did. Jesus went on to teach the children's story of the camel and the needle's eye.
We cannot keep the commandments. "Thou shall not kill." easy enough? on the surface, yes. But what of anger in your hearts - how far are you willing to go to say, "I have kept the commandments."?
The giving up of earthly possessions - the camel thru the needle's eye. This is not just about what might easily come to mind as material wealth this includes the very things you hold most precious - those you love most. Abraham's son, Isaac.

Salvation must then be free. This was the message. atleast the parts i understood.
But i have many strongholds and many questions and misunderstandings with concepts in the Bible. Some i dont know if i will ever work out.
And it saddens me bc i fear my own heresy.
Then after this rich man walked away very sad the disciples asked Christ who then can be saved?
Matthew 19:26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Yes Salvation is 100% a gift and a gift is free, The history above is before Chri8st going to the cross, thereofore it is a part of the Old Testament Old Covenant
As a matter of fact anything and all things Christ did prior to his death at the cross was done under the Old Covenmat and it was Christ fulfilling the Old Covenant and by his deathat the cross the new Covenant was put in place
Hebrews 9:15-17 New Covenant Matt 5:17 where he said his purpose was here to do John 19:30 he said what he came to do is done. Then the most miraculous happening raised from the dead. He came to and the thiefs are still here to
John 10:10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
So the resurrection is meant for you too here and now as long as you beleive God
Romans 5:10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 

homwardbound

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You noticed it too?
Just count it all glory for look what it brought out for us all to learn and be aware of, it matters not what the intention of another God knows and that is all that matters and those of us that belong get pruned and we learn more of the Love of God Jesus is the vine and Father is the Vine dresser and we are the partakers in Gid's perfect plan of salvation trusting God and none of self
 
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I want to thank each and every one of you for your comments…It matters not were you stand, so long as you keep searching for Gods truth.

As a child I was raised a Catholic. When I was eight I started skipping school to go and sit in an empty church…I just wanted to be close to God, and talk to him. At nine I wanted to be a priest. My Grand father said he would help me. Each week I would go to a class with other kids, and the priest would tell us about God. I remember everything was a secret? My Grand father said if I asked the priest a question each week, and came home with the question, and the answer…he would give me a nickel. That was a big deal back then. One week the priest talked about original sin. He said that is why we die. I lied to my Darling Grandfather, and said I had asked why we die, and the priest said because of original sin...my first nickel. This went on for some time. I was the kid on the block…I always had ice cream money.
Somebody had a baby and it was baptized. We had a big gathering of people at my Grandfathers house. People were standing, eating talking all over the place, even in the yard. The priest was right in the middle of the mess eating. I asked him, “Father, were already Catholic. Why are we baptized. To remove original sin,” replied the priest.
Well, that was the day I stopped being a Catholic.
I have looked deep into many religions. I found good people in all of them. Only problem, most of the leaders were saying the same things. Things that went against Gods written word.

I was a Minister for almost thirty years. I left that because I was asked to teach things that were not true. That’s not saying those who wanted me to teach things I knew were wrong. I know many believed what they believed.
Would you be willing to indicate what some of those wrong things might be?

All religions say they have the truth. Yet, they say all the others are the false religions?
The Bible calls false religions, Babylon the Great.., the great Whore riding the wild beast.
The Great whore are religions. The beast? The Governments of the earth.
What am I left with? I have something worth more than our whole universe…a Bible.
I encourage you, Read your Bible. Pick it apart. Don’t expect it to give up it’s secrets easily. Ask God to give you understanding. Ask, and keep asking.
 
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my heart is heavy today anyway. . .just one of those days.
but i agree none of us knows how we will respond if we were to meet our maker I suspect it might be with fear unless there were an overwhelming assurance of Love present . . .we will have to wait and see. Many Bible verses point to it being a fearful experience just to be in the presence of angels so i cant imagine could be 2 diff things...anyway.

I have often wondered if i would have the strength to not betray myself or family in the face of an ultimate question such as, "Do you know this Man?" and sadly when i search my heart . . .i am very human. Self-presevation kicks in. Love of family and self. The story of Abraham never set well with me. The answer of the creature sacrificed from the bush - no better.
What is it all about?
It is not for us to ask such questions of ourselves.

We do not have the grace now for that situation.

When you are in that situation, God gives the grace to obey.

God gave Abraham the grace to obey him.

It can't be done any other way.
 
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Who killed Jesus, It was me. I killed him personally. I was there and nailed Him to the cross. The day I realized what sin was and did it anyway. I did it and stand guilty. But, thank God that He said forgive them Father for they know not what they do.

I could go in detail and say His own people killed and that's what to place physically, but spiritually, we all did.