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1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
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1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
explain it.
it's so intricate and complex you need to explain yourself.
the simplicity of the Gospel of which you are ashamed is not enough.
so tell me all about the Two Trees and the Dual Covenant and Nazis and the Christian Era Christians persecuting jews so we have to shut up about Jesus.
and tell me about we being past the end of real time, existing in limbo prophetic moments before the Lord appears.
tell me all about how you receive accolades from Zionists who love the fact you don't trouble them with that pesky Gospel of JESUS OF NAZARETH.
tell me how Talmudic Pharisees who hate Christ and Christians are your brothers.
a Witness of God.
tell me about the Pharisees and their Oral Traditions being a Witness of God - One of Two Churches.
tell me all about it.
and tell me what else you know about how the world works.
you never answered any of that.
pick something simple.
let's see how you do.
if Koolaid is all you have, that's okay too.
let's just see how clever you are.
look.
i get it that you do not believe jews (the only people on earth) don't need to know about or love Jesus Christ of Nazareth who died on Calvary 2000 years ago FOR THEM.
i get it.
i get that you can't understand that in a Covenant Tree unbelieving branches are cut off.
i understand.
you belong to some other religion.
that's been made clear.
i can't do anything for you.
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Abiding
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To whom it may concern....you really should be ashamed of yourselves.
To fight for unbiblical doctrine.
Its one thing to say you have a theory based on this or that, but to nearly take
over a forum and choose sides and become groupies of a myth is just embarrasing
to me at times to even post in this thread.
I know for a fact the groupies here have not looked at the logical implications
of their theories.
Ill end by saying this. Its one thing to hold to a hunch, another thing to
cause a fuss in a Christian forum. Its the mob syndrome. Grow up.
Go to a christian myth site. Or state in the OP its a myth.
To fight for unbiblical doctrine.
Its one thing to say you have a theory based on this or that, but to nearly take
over a forum and choose sides and become groupies of a myth is just embarrasing
to me at times to even post in this thread.
I know for a fact the groupies here have not looked at the logical implications
of their theories.
Ill end by saying this. Its one thing to hold to a hunch, another thing to
cause a fuss in a Christian forum. Its the mob syndrome. Grow up.
Go to a christian myth site. Or state in the OP its a myth.
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cfultz3
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But they knew Him as the Rock........and they drunk from that Rock.......
Jehovah (the LORD) is that Rock....Jehovah is Lord Jesus to us.....
There is but one God......
There will come a time when they too will accept Jehovah as Christ also
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Abiding
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This is a biblical forum right?
If any Jew had a heart for Jehovah, God would draw Him to Jesus. Period.
If a Jew has a hard heart towards God whether playing religion or not then he will lose his soul period.
There is not another option.
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doulos
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please don't pray for me.
i don't know your god.
love me if you like.
i know ya don't mean it.
but...are you planning to answer my questions?
since your creepy boss is lurking in the shadows and won't defend his own plagiarized heresies?
ya...i can back that up.
wanna challenge me?
i told you i haven't even begun to post what i know.
bye for now.
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cfultz3
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Yes, they who will hearken to the drawing of the Spirit towards the Light do come to the Light (Jesus).
If any Jew has a heart for Jehovah, He is drawn to Jesus.
If any Jew has a hardened heart towards God, then he is lost without Christ.
If you would, read my last 10 or so posts and you will see that I am talking about people who have never heard about Christ. Say someone who lived 100 years after Christ and lived 10, 000 miles away from the epic center of the spreading of the Gospel. If you would, read my last 10 or so posts. Thank you for taking the time out to see what I was talking about Abiding.
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Abiding
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I read them. I have theories on that. Ive talked to people about my theories.
I even think they may be correct. BUT i wont write a book or start up threads
and id NEVER fight over them or teach them in a public forum.
Also my theories come from things Jesus said and that are in the Psalms and proverbs.
But i dont have enough like a certain verse or two that says plainly what i speculate.
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doulos
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My God instructs me to love my enemies. It is clear that you have chosen to make me your enemy so if I am to follow what my God tells me to do I must Love and pray for you.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
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Abiding
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that's what the Lord of the bible says.
you don't know Him.
so please don't pray to your hybrid false g-d.
your idol.
you made yourself an enemy of the Gospel.
and a friend of the world.
can't help ya, don't want your help.
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doulos
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cfultz3
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Having thought on this, i guess you are correct. It would be best not to speculate on any subject of Scripture, from such only comes doctrine and theories and believes and belief. I know your intents are earnest, so I will leave this to others and will obtain my own salvation.
i don't mind telling you that it made me upset and tearful yesterday... while walking along i looked at a tree and considered the branches.. how the natural branches would always fit well in their own tree.
In belief they can be grafted in along side branches from other trees.
It is one Tree i thought not two it is the branches through belief in Yahshua the Messiah that can produce good fruit when grafted in.
God forgive me if i'm in error but i will adhere to your words and not accept there is another way not because i decide that but because You Spoke that.
may it be that i remain humble and not boast against any other for i'm worthy not and the least.
Be my witness this day that i will continue in Good Faith for your Glory forever.
In belief they can be grafted in along side branches from other trees.
It is one Tree i thought not two it is the branches through belief in Yahshua the Messiah that can produce good fruit when grafted in.
God forgive me if i'm in error but i will adhere to your words and not accept there is another way not because i decide that but because You Spoke that.
may it be that i remain humble and not boast against any other for i'm worthy not and the least.
Be my witness this day that i will continue in Good Faith for your Glory forever.
don't go away now....you have a lot of explaining to do.
so does ellis.
i have a lot of questions...and so do the theologians i consulted.
who followed his stuff 5-6 years ago and debunked it.
then there's the matter of whose work this really is.
how come you haven't addressed any of the posts i made?
the gospel went out from the Time Jesus walked the earth.
paul said into all the world in his day - the known world.
and it did.
since then it's gone around the world.
those who were not reached by it early on, just never received it.
God never promised every man salvation.
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doulos
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As I said before I am not interested in playing your sophmoric games. You have demonstrated that you are not interested in discussion only bullying those who disagree witth you into silence or submission to your views. That is not what Christ would want us to do. So I will not partake in your games. If you want to use the tactics of a false religion started by a false prophet that is your choice but as for me I will try (and fail at times, I am human) to behave in a Christian manner. How you choose to behave and what you do is your choice. Love ya sister and may God bless your studies.
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eternally-gratefull
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which is why I tried to show the whole context of romans.. you do not just take two and separate it from the rest of the letter.
Paul is NOT saying those who try to do Gods will will be saved, he is saying those who are saved do his will (again take james)
all over scripture it says we are not saved by works. this would put them under works, and not only this but law.
again. God knows by the HS who will be positive to his leading. he will get the gospel to whoever he KNOWS will accept it as gospel truth. No one be in heaven who did not trust the redeemer to take their sin for them.. Many will be in hell who tried to do the very thing you are speaking of. thinking this alone could save them.