Daniel is out of chronological order.

[Therapon]

As long as some has work to do, an honest studying is not permitted.

Be patient brother, be patient. Give time for the Lord to work. <smile>

 

[cfultz3]

In Burma, there was a tribe of people called the Karen who worshiped the God Y’wa. Their prophets declared they had once possessed a book of the law that had been lost many centuries before. Sacred songs passed down from generation to generation, reminded them of their lost law:

Omnipotent is Y’wa; Him
have we not believed.
Y’wa created men anciently.
He has a perfect knowledge of all things.
Y’wa created men at the beginning.
The earth is the treading place for the feet of Y’wa.
And heaven is the place where He sits.

He sees all things and we are manifest to Him.
Y’wa formed the earth originally.
He appointed food and drink.
He appointed the “fruit of trial.”
Mu-kaw-lee deceived two persons.
He causes them to eat of the fruit of the tree of trial.
They obeyed not; they believed not Y’wa ...

They became subject to sickness, aging and death ...
O children and grandchildren,
If we repent of our sins,
And cease to do evil -
restraining our passions -
And pray to Y’wa. He will have mercy upon us again.
If Y’wa does not have mercy on us,
there is no other one who can.

He who saves us is the only one - Y’wa.
O Children and grandchildren!
Pray to Y’wa constantly.
By day and by night.

According to doctrines of some, generations of Karen went to hell because they didn’t spell Jehovah’s name right or come to Jesus, but how do you think our crucified Lord “who died, not for our sins only, but the sins of the whole world? looked upon those dear people?

I sometimes call Him Jah. Let's see what people will say about that.

 

[Therapon]

I think she is down to about 4 people who she allows to be called her brother or sister.

Well, she says she doesn't worship the same God we do and claims she isn't our sister in the Lord. I hope she's wrong, I hate to think otherwise. You can't tell a fruit is by it's looks, but by it's taste and "by their fruits ye shall know them."

 

[peterT]

1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Yes, they drank from the same spiritual Rock for there is only one spiritual Rock, and they don’t drink from it anymore for there is only one spiritual Rock.

They drank from the spiritual Rock in the wilderness and you know what happened to most of them when the harkened not to the words of Moses,

They Stopped drinking from the spiritual Rock and they died in the wilderness by the hand of God.
That was the church in the wilderness.

We have to continue drinking from the spiritual Rock to be a part of the church and so do the Jews.

John5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

For there is only one body the church one spiritual Rock, the same spiritual Rock they drank from in the wilderness JESUS

 

[peterT]

Well, she says she doesn't worship the same God we do and claims she isn't our sister in the Lord. I hope she's wrong, I hate to think otherwise. You can't tell a fruit is by it's looks, but by it's taste and "by their fruits ye shall know them."

And as for you, you can be a nasty peace of work, no wonder she doesn’t call you a brother .

99/% of Your doctrine is the epitome of the false church, "religious twotell" and as you put it in your study guide “a prophecy nut”

Zone maybe off a little in her doctrine but you are 10 fold in worst shape than she is.

In tribulation, I would rather hang about her than you, for she would lay down her life for the brethren in a blink of an eye, comfort the lost like a mother, and feed Gods sheep, and you would probably be the hireling that fleeth when the wolf came.


John 10:12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

 

[cfultz3]

Yes, they drank from the same spiritual Rock for there is only one spiritual Rock, and they don’t drink from it anymore for there is only one spiritual Rock.

They drank from the spiritual Rock in the wilderness and you know what happened to most of them when the harkened not to the words of Moses,

They Stopped drinking from the spiritual Rock and they died in the wilderness by the hand of God.
That was the church in the wilderness.

We have to continue drinking from the spiritual Rock to be a part of the church and so do the Jews.

John5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

For there is only one body the church one spiritual Rock, the same spiritual Rock they drank from in the wilderness JESUS

They who hearkened to the Voice made it to the Promised Land.

 

[cfultz3]

99/% of Your doctrine is the epitome of the false church, "religious twotell" and as you put it in your study guide “a prophecy nut”

What of his doctrine is "religious twotell"? The historical proven dates? Where he says God is a God of His word and will remember His everlasting covenant He made with the Hebrews?

It would be helpful for people to see what you are talking about if you point out what you see wrong in what he is teaching.

 

[peterT]

They who hearkened to the Voice made it to the Promised Land.

Yes the ones that obeyed the voice of Moses made it to the Promised Land.

John5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

 

[peterT]

What of his doctrine is "religious twotell"? The historical proven dates? Where he says God is a God of His word and will remember His everlasting covenant He made with the Hebrews?

It would be helpful for people to see what you are talking about if you point out what you see wrong in what he is teaching.

yes, jesus is the only everlasting covenant and it’s still open to the Hebrews

 

[cfultz3]

Yes the ones that obeyed the voice of Moses made it to the Promised Land.

John5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

While in the wilderness, they drank from the Rock, who was Jesus. To some He is Jesus, to others He is the Rock, while yet to some He is Emanuel, and to some Jah. But nevertheless, there is but one God in three administrations. And when He shall return to enter the Eastern Gate, they will see the One they have pieced and will wail over the Son. I am not saying all Jews will be saved, but when the time come they will accept the One we Christians call our Christ. For God to be a God of promise and a Keeper of promises, it must be so that God has not forsaken those Jews who hearkened to Him in the wilderness.

 

[cfultz3]

Yes the ones that obeyed the voice of Moses made it to the Promised Land.

John5:46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

The ones who hearkened to the Voice of God entered into the Promised Land and those who did not hearkened to the Voice of the Lord did not. Much in the same way a Christian is to hearken to His Voice (Spirit) as our Guide.

Joshua 5:6
For the children of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, till all the people that were men of war, which came out of Egypt, were consumed, because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD: to whom the LORD swore that he would not show them the land, which the LORD swore to their fathers that he would give us, a land that flows with milk and honey.

 

[zone]

And as for you, you can be a nasty peace of work, no wonder she doesn’t call you a brother .

99/% of Your doctrine is the epitome of the false church, "religious twotell" and as you put it in your study guide “a prophecy nut”

Zone maybe off a little in her doctrine but you are 10 fold in worst shape than she is.

In tribulation, I would rather hang about her than you, for she would lay down her life for the brethren in a blink of an eye, comfort the lost like a mother, and feed Gods sheep, and you would probably be the hireling that fleeth when the wolf came.


John 10:12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

aye capt peter

reporting for duty

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Make it 5. I'm her brother in the Lord and you guys shouldn't be gossiping and sniping her behind her back.

Well, she says she doesn't worship the same God we do and claims she isn't our sister in the Lord. I hope she's wrong, I hate to think otherwise. You can't tell a fruit is by it's looks, but by it's taste and "by their fruits ye shall know them."

 

[Therapon]

Make it 5. I'm her brother in the Lord and you guys shouldn't be gossiping and sniping her behind her back.

I really don't understand, this is public and open. We guote someone's words and that's snipping behind their back?

 

[Therapon]

Well, I'm kinda sad. when I first saw this thread, I went and restudied Daniel, so I wouldn't sound ignorant. I was excited, because, I love to talk about bible prophecy. However, I see that this thread has greatly deviated from it's subject and probably too late to talk about why chapter 5 should have been after chapter 8 and also how detailed the prophecies were of the wars between Syria and Egypt. Talking about Bernice and Cleopatra. Oh well.

Yes, and I'm terribly sorry it has degerated into this. It was certainly not the Lord's intent, or mine. Got any suggestions?

 

[cfultz3]

Make it 5. I'm her brother in the Lord and you guys shouldn't be gossiping and sniping her behind her back.

She herself says that we (whoever disagrees with her) are not her brothers and sisters. As for me, I worship Jehovah God who came in the flesh and is known as Christ. If I worship God and am not her brother by her own proclamation, then it is clear that she is saying that she does not worship the same God as me. I hope and pray myself that she does not mean that.

Chris

 

[Therapon]

She herself says that we (whoever disagrees with her) are not her brothers and sisters. As for me, I worship Jehovah God who came in the flesh and is known as Christ. If I worship God and am not her brother by her own proclamation, then it is clear that she is saying that she does not worship the same God as me. I hope and pray myself that she does not mean that. Chris

Me too, and I also glady declare, "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh." I wonder if those who are so against what you say will so declare?

 

[Therapon]

Beside the obvious fulfillments of prophecy during the life of Jesus, here are a dozen more day-year and time-times that were fulfilled just in the last century: in 1948 with the establishment of the new nation of Israel and in 1967 when Jerusamen was freed of Gentile domination. I haven't proved them all here on line, but the Study Guide answers any you question.

 

[cfultz3]

Would you explain the two witnesses who laid in the streets for 3 and 1/2 days and how that ended in 1967 along with the 42 months of the other two?

 

[zone]

I think she is down to about 4 people who she allows to be called her brother or sister.

why do you care