Record number of Palestinian children imprisoned.
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R
let me put it this way...
suppose for the sake of argument that israeli soldiers actually -are- heartless murderers...
naturally as a good parent you will choose to walk your children past these vicious killing machines every day...right?
or maybe it is like dr. martin luther king said...the palestinians hate the israelis more than they love their own children...
suppose for the sake of argument that israeli soldiers actually -are- heartless murderers...
naturally as a good parent you will choose to walk your children past these vicious killing machines every day...right?
or maybe it is like dr. martin luther king said...the palestinians hate the israelis more than they love their own children...
I do hope you realize, Drett, that it is completely illogical to post only snapshots that support your side and ignore all other evidence. I'm not coming on either side of this issue, but some of your photos fairly obviously don't even show what you claim. The last pic in your first post shows a soldier pointing his rifle away from the family, look closer. Even if he wasn't, one 100th of a second of what happened that day is meaningless without context.
I did a search for Palestinian parents throwing children at soldiers. I could not find anything.
I did find this from a Jewish publication.
Twenty-seven Palestinian children were ambushed and arrested by Israel Defense Forces soldiers in Hebron on March 20. Eighteen of them were less than 12 years old, the minimum age at which they can legally be held responsible for a crime.
This large-scale roundup was arbitrary. Soldiers arrested every child they saw on the street − including first- and second-graders no older than 7 or 8 − on suspicion of throwing stones at roadblock 160, which separates Palestinians from settlers.
The IDF must stop arresting children - Opinion - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
I could not find anything about parents throwing children to soldiers on google. On the contrary,this Jewish publications are telling us Jewish children are being ambushed. Try to soften your heart.
I did find this from a Jewish publication.
Twenty-seven Palestinian children were ambushed and arrested by Israel Defense Forces soldiers in Hebron on March 20. Eighteen of them were less than 12 years old, the minimum age at which they can legally be held responsible for a crime.
This large-scale roundup was arbitrary. Soldiers arrested every child they saw on the street − including first- and second-graders no older than 7 or 8 − on suspicion of throwing stones at roadblock 160, which separates Palestinians from settlers.
The IDF must stop arresting children - Opinion - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
I could not find anything about parents throwing children to soldiers on google. On the contrary,this Jewish publications are telling us Jewish children are being ambushed. Try to soften your heart.
If that is the case why would a human shield be arrested ?
The news article from Israel News states soldiers ambush and arrest children on the road arbitrarily.
The main media really has it hooks in with these bogey stories. How depressing.
Jews DO control the media | Manny Friedman | Ops & Blogs | The Times of Israel
Try not to let media lead you by the nose.
The news article from Israel News states soldiers ambush and arrest children on the road arbitrarily.
The main media really has it hooks in with these bogey stories. How depressing.
Jews DO control the media | Manny Friedman | Ops & Blogs | The Times of Israel
Try not to let media lead you by the nose.
Concerning children walking past killing machines, I don't think people realise that the Israelis live in the face of the Palestinians. When Israelis put up checkpoints between your work, field, hospitals and schools and where you live there is not much choice but to walk past.
Israel has over 500 checkpoints and barriers across occupied Palestine; a journey that should take minutes can take hours. Approximately 18,000 pregnant Palestinian women each year will develop complications. In a 5 year period 35 babies and 5 women died at checkpoint on their way to hospital.
Palestinian newborns are dying at checkpoints -- New Internationalist
Israel has over 500 checkpoints and barriers across occupied Palestine; a journey that should take minutes can take hours. Approximately 18,000 pregnant Palestinian women each year will develop complications. In a 5 year period 35 babies and 5 women died at checkpoint on their way to hospital.
Palestinian newborns are dying at checkpoints -- New Internationalist
drett, i sympathize with you re - all the lying.
i really do.
ultimately this hasnt much to do with Islam.
it has to do with the LYING.
Islam is responsible for a lot of terrible things....9-11 isnt one of them.
and thats what this whole rank stack of lies hinges on.
i know your people didnt do it.
i commend them actually for not reacting more strongly to such disgusting charges and being slaughtered for something they didnt do.
the restraint is holding....how much longer who can say.
zone
i really do.
ultimately this hasnt much to do with Islam.
it has to do with the LYING.
Islam is responsible for a lot of terrible things....9-11 isnt one of them.
and thats what this whole rank stack of lies hinges on.
i know your people didnt do it.
i commend them actually for not reacting more strongly to such disgusting charges and being slaughtered for something they didnt do.
the restraint is holding....how much longer who can say.
zone
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The Kuwaiti Incubator Babies - LIE
31 seconds
Uploaded on May 3, 2009
Do you remember Gulf War 1?
Behold the lie that put the public behind the war - The Kuwaiti Incubator Babies...LIE. This entire story was manufactured. The "innocent" girl who testifies "tearfully", is, in reality, a member of the Kuwaiti royal family and her "story" has been given to her - she was coached.
Behold the former head of the CIA and then current President of the United States, George H.W. Bush,...LIE...through his teeth, about the incubator babies. Do you think that the former head of the CIA would make up such a story?
The Incubator babies of 1990 - LOL!!!
How many lives and how many bilions did this lie cost?
~
Nayirah Testimony refers to the controversial testimony given before the non-governmental Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990, by a female who provided only her first name, Nayirah. In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die. Though reporters did not then have access to Kuwait, her testimony was regarded as credible at the time and was widely publicized. It was cited numerous times by United States senators and the president in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War.
Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International[1] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country and found the story of stolen incubators unsubstantiated. However, they did find that a number of people, including babies, died when nurses and doctors fled the country.
In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud bin Nasir Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.
Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has largely come to be regarded as wartime propaganda.
Nayirah (testimony) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
The Kuwaiti Incubator Babies - LIE
31 seconds
Uploaded on May 3, 2009
Do you remember Gulf War 1?
Behold the lie that put the public behind the war - The Kuwaiti Incubator Babies...LIE. This entire story was manufactured. The "innocent" girl who testifies "tearfully", is, in reality, a member of the Kuwaiti royal family and her "story" has been given to her - she was coached.
Behold the former head of the CIA and then current President of the United States, George H.W. Bush,...LIE...through his teeth, about the incubator babies. Do you think that the former head of the CIA would make up such a story?
The Incubator babies of 1990 - LOL!!!
How many lives and how many bilions did this lie cost?
~
Nayirah Testimony refers to the controversial testimony given before the non-governmental Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990, by a female who provided only her first name, Nayirah. In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die. Though reporters did not then have access to Kuwait, her testimony was regarded as credible at the time and was widely publicized. It was cited numerous times by United States senators and the president in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War.
Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International[1] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country and found the story of stolen incubators unsubstantiated. However, they did find that a number of people, including babies, died when nurses and doctors fled the country.
In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud bin Nasir Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.
Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has largely come to be regarded as wartime propaganda.
Nayirah (testimony) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
Not to mention that most of those images Drett posted are so old that the kids in them probably have children of their own by now. If this brutatlity is so rife, then were are the hundreds of photos from last week or just this year? Maybe because its not as widespread as the Palestinian propaganda machine wants you to believe.
Yes I accept there are from time to time, the odd occasions when there is a case of brutality to awnser, but that is the problem when you have compulsory military service, you will get a few people in uniform waving a gun around who should not really be in uniform or given a gun.
It is also suprising how defening the silence is when people like Drett are challenged on abuse of human rights carried out by the Palestinians. The rulling party Hamas are a terrorist organisation and are guilty of using children and civilian population as human shields, just like all the other terrorists in Gaza and West Bank do.
Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission
Lantos was a strong supporter of the 1991 Persian Gulf War. During the run-up to the war, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus hosted a young Kuwaiti woman identified only as "Nurse Nayirah", who told of horrific abuses by Iraqi soldiers, including the killing of Kuwaiti babies by taking them out of their incubators and leaving them to die on the cold floor of the hospital. Nayirah's testimony was widely publicized.[11] That night, portions of the testimony aired on ABC's Nightline and NBC Nightly News reaching an estimated audience between 35 and 53 million Americans.[12][13] Seven senators cited Nayirah's testimony in their speeches backing the use of force.[11] President George Bush repeated the story at least ten times in the following weeks,[11] and Lantos himself argued that Nayirah's account of the atrocities helped to stir American opinion in favor of participation in the Gulf War.[14]
The girl's account was later challenged by independent human rights monitors.[14] "Nurse Nayirah" later turned out to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.[14] Asked about his having allowed the girl to give testimony without identifying herself, and without her story having been corroborated, Lantos replied, "The notion that any of the witnesses brought to the caucus through the Kuwaiti Embassy would not be credible did not cross my mind... I have no basis for assuming that her story is not true, but the point goes beyond that. If one hypothesizes that the woman's story is fictitious from A to Z, that in no way diminishes the avalanche of human rights violations."[14]
Lantos and John R. MacArthur, the foremost critic of the Nayirah issue, each had op-eds in The New York Times, in which each accused the other of distortion.[15] MacArthur suggested that Lantos may have materially benefited from his having accommodated Nayirah.[16] Nayirah was later revealed to have connections to lobbying firm Hill & Knowlton in the employ of Kuwaiti activist group Citizens for a Free Kuwait, a lobbying firm which also rented space to the Human Rights Caucus at a "reduced rate".[16] The New York Times condemned Lantos's "lack of candor and lapse of judgment" in presenting her testimony without giving these facts as context, and called for a hearing by the House Ethics Committee.[16]
Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
oh ya.....they're all believable.
Lantos was a strong supporter of the 1991 Persian Gulf War. During the run-up to the war, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus hosted a young Kuwaiti woman identified only as "Nurse Nayirah", who told of horrific abuses by Iraqi soldiers, including the killing of Kuwaiti babies by taking them out of their incubators and leaving them to die on the cold floor of the hospital. Nayirah's testimony was widely publicized.[11] That night, portions of the testimony aired on ABC's Nightline and NBC Nightly News reaching an estimated audience between 35 and 53 million Americans.[12][13] Seven senators cited Nayirah's testimony in their speeches backing the use of force.[11] President George Bush repeated the story at least ten times in the following weeks,[11] and Lantos himself argued that Nayirah's account of the atrocities helped to stir American opinion in favor of participation in the Gulf War.[14]
The girl's account was later challenged by independent human rights monitors.[14] "Nurse Nayirah" later turned out to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.[14] Asked about his having allowed the girl to give testimony without identifying herself, and without her story having been corroborated, Lantos replied, "The notion that any of the witnesses brought to the caucus through the Kuwaiti Embassy would not be credible did not cross my mind... I have no basis for assuming that her story is not true, but the point goes beyond that. If one hypothesizes that the woman's story is fictitious from A to Z, that in no way diminishes the avalanche of human rights violations."[14]
Lantos and John R. MacArthur, the foremost critic of the Nayirah issue, each had op-eds in The New York Times, in which each accused the other of distortion.[15] MacArthur suggested that Lantos may have materially benefited from his having accommodated Nayirah.[16] Nayirah was later revealed to have connections to lobbying firm Hill & Knowlton in the employ of Kuwaiti activist group Citizens for a Free Kuwait, a lobbying firm which also rented space to the Human Rights Caucus at a "reduced rate".[16] The New York Times condemned Lantos's "lack of candor and lapse of judgment" in presenting her testimony without giving these facts as context, and called for a hearing by the House Ethics Committee.[16]
Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
oh ya.....they're all believable.
On January 25, 2006, elections were held for the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). Notwithstanding the 2005 municipal elections and the January 9, 2005 presidential election, this was the first election to the PLC since 1996; subsequent elections had been repeatedly postponed due to the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Palestinian voters in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank including East Jerusalem were eligible to participate in the election.
Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own.
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democracy for all? or just the ones with results we like?
the purple ink finger antics not to our liking this time?
.......
terrorists in Gaza and West Bank.
okay.
In June 1967, the West Bank and East Jerusalem were captured by Israel as a result of the Six-Day War. With the exception of East Jerusalem and the former Israeli-Jordanian no man's land, the West Bank was not annexed by Israel but has remained under Israeli military control and is referred to as Judea and Samaria Area by Israel. Although the 1974 Arab League summit resolution at Rabat designated the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) as the “sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people”, Jordan did not officially relinquish its claim to the area until 1988,[11] when it severed all administrative and legal ties with the West Bank and eventually stripped West Bank Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship.[12]
Since the 1993 Oslo Accords, parts of the West Bank are under full or partial control of the Palestinian Authority.
Though 164 nations refer to the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as “Occupied Palestinian Territory”,[13][14]
the state of Israel insists that only territories captured in war from “an established and recognized sovereign” should be considered occupied territories.[15]
West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
so cool when you just get to say THIS HOW IT IS...regardless of what the WORLD SAYS.
Final results show that Hamas won the election, with 74 seats to the ruling-Fatah's 45, providing Hamas with the majority of the 132 available seats and the ability to form a majority government on their own.
.......
democracy for all? or just the ones with results we like?
the purple ink finger antics not to our liking this time?
.......
terrorists in Gaza and West Bank.
okay.
In June 1967, the West Bank and East Jerusalem were captured by Israel as a result of the Six-Day War. With the exception of East Jerusalem and the former Israeli-Jordanian no man's land, the West Bank was not annexed by Israel but has remained under Israeli military control and is referred to as Judea and Samaria Area by Israel. Although the 1974 Arab League summit resolution at Rabat designated the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) as the “sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people”, Jordan did not officially relinquish its claim to the area until 1988,[11] when it severed all administrative and legal ties with the West Bank and eventually stripped West Bank Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship.[12]
Since the 1993 Oslo Accords, parts of the West Bank are under full or partial control of the Palestinian Authority.
Though 164 nations refer to the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as “Occupied Palestinian Territory”,[13][14]
the state of Israel insists that only territories captured in war from “an established and recognized sovereign” should be considered occupied territories.[15]
West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
so cool when you just get to say THIS HOW IT IS...regardless of what the WORLD SAYS.
R
disregard for the lives of children is not anything new...it goes all the way back to the children's crusade and beyond... nowdays african militias for example are full of child soldiers...it is a common symptom of societies or sects or movements that have declined to the point that they lose all respect for human life...
this is not the kind of thing that should be surprising from a society that indoctrinates its people on the glories of martyrdom from cradle to early grave...
this is not the kind of thing that should be surprising from a society that indoctrinates its people on the glories of martyrdom from cradle to early grave...