How many will be Saved?

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I want to get everyone's opinion on this. The other day I was reading Matthew chapter 5: 20-46. According to what I read, it seems like very few people will be saved. I may be wrong, but I get the impression that many Christians are more concerned with being "religious," memorizing bible versus, loving God and having a relationship with him, than being Holy and righteous for God. Many people say they love God, but sometimes I get the sense that it is more a love of affection and appreciation, rather than as our Lord said, "Those that love me follow my commandments." The imagery in those versus makes me think people today don't really grasp the gravity of sin and that WAY too much emphasis is put on his forgiveness and mercy to the point of a false complacency. In my opinion, there will be A LOT of disappointed "Christians" on the day of judgment. What do you guys think?
 
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I agree with you. There will be more people who hear, "I never knew you" than those who walk the staright and narrow path.
 
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"Be thou faithful unto death and I will give thee the crown of life"
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No one knows the exact figure. One must be born again and remain faithful to the end.
 
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I agree. No one knows the number but only few people will be saved according to Matthew 7:14. It's sad though.
 
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This is especially sad in a time when we pervert the gospel for the sake of filling our churches and increasing bank accounts. Many of those who know Christ just as savior, instead of His rightful position of Lord are in for a rude awakening.
 
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Well as a day is to God a thousands years and a thousand years as a day a few must mean alot more than you guys think for the bible also says :Re 7:9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;Re 7:10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.Re 7:11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,Re 7:12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.Re 7:13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?Re 7:14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

but compared to all the people that has ever lived this may seem like just a few
 
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This is a very interesting question. What about people who had no chance to be saved? The people who are born in foreign countries where they have no choice in their religion? People dying before they are babtised? Does someone have reliable information about this?
 
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This is a very interesting question. What about people who had no chance to be saved? The people who are born in foreign countries where they have no choice in their religion? People dying before they are babtised? Does someone have reliable information about this?
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Anyone who is not saved by placing their faith in Jesus Christ will be lost. God gives light through His creation, those who accept this light receive more light, those that reject it, lose the light He has given. There will be no one in hell that didn't reject Christ and the light God gave.... As for baptism, baptism doesn't save, so that's irrelevent.
 
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Ro 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the MEASURE of faith.


every body has the same amount of faith. how all this works with babies. tribes in the rain forest that has never heard the Gosple, that is not for us to worry about, it was God that inspired the thought that everybody has the same amount of faith. how He reveals Himself to every man is His department.
 
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This is a very interesting question. What about people who had no chance to be saved? The people who are born in foreign countries where they have no choice in their religion? People dying before they are babtised? Does someone have reliable information about this?
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Romans 1:18-20

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse

In these verses Paul says all unbelievers or unreached people are without excuse for not knowing God. In verse 20 Paul shows us one way that God has revealed Himself...by His creation. Paul also makes the statement that God's existence is known because of creation, he says that God’s nature, His eternity, His power are made known through His creation. Paul says the world and creation itself shows you that the one true God exists. And you even see something of His eternity. The world is not eternal; He is. You can see something of His power. The world didn’t create itself; He did. You can see something of His attributes, His wisdom, His perfection, His goodness, and even His judgment as you look at the world around you. Paul is not merely asserting that God is revealed, but that He has been clearly seen.
Look at the words of verse 20: "Has been clearly seen and understood." It’s not that God just displays His truth in the heavens, it comes home. It’s received. We get it and we still suppress it. Paul uses the word without excuse. The idea is If you were accused of a crime, and you were called to stand in the dock before the judge and jury, you would have been required to give an apologia, a defense. You would be required to defend yourself. If you were unable to defend yourself, you were said to be unapologia, without a defense. Paul says that because of these things, we stand before God unapologias. We stand before Him without an excuse.
 
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Do not love just in word but in deed and truth. this scripture has been strong in my life reciently. I am no scolar in the word but the number is known by Our Lord God and in him I trust. It seems to me that I will put my efforts in doing and loving according to his word the rest is in Our Lord God. Just doing as he asks takes all my effort and faith. To worry is to waste. God bless, pickles
 
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above said:
This is a very interesting question. What about people who had no chance to be saved? The people who are born in foreign countries where they have no choice in their religion? People dying before they are babtised? Does someone have reliable information about this?
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somewhere in the scripture it says God will make himself known to all people. Therefore, EVERYONE will have a chance to be saved.
 
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This is a very interesting question. What about people who had no chance to be saved? The people who are born in foreign countries where they have no choice in their religion? People dying before they are babtised? Does someone have reliable information about this?
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I'd like to offer some food for thought on the thread starter's topic, but I want to address this in particular as well. What you have to understand is that people don't go to hell because they have never heard the gospel. People go to hell because they have refused to walk in the light of their own conscience, love their sin, and want to stay in it. Scriptures testimony against man is that there is none righteous, not even one. The imagination of man's heart is ONLY evil, CONTINUALLY from his youth. The Bible says that twice, in Genesis 6 and 8. It is for this reason that man will suffer in hell. The gospel must be preached to them because it is through the accurate communication of the truth, and the regeneration of man's heart by the Holy Spirit that a man is born again, being freed from his sin, and made a partaker of the Divine Nature, being qualified to be a partaker of the inheritance of the saints.

As for how many will be saved, the bible says few; however few is a relative term. Few can mean the minority of the population that has ever lived. But, I think it means more than that. Jesus said that the gate is wide and broad that leads to destruction and "there are many who ENTER IN there." I don't think He was talking about people in the world. He was talking about people in the Church. Those in the world, are happily going about eating, drinking, and marrying just as in the days of Noah, and aren't seeking to enter in to anything. It is in the Church that many false converts are "entering in" to a broad gate. See what I mean?

It seems, and is evident by the words of most of the posters on this web site, that although we use the name Jesus, probably every one of us has another variation on the same theme. Rest assured that on that day, many who professed faith in the name of Jesus, will find that they did not in fact know THE Jesus. Correct terminology and names does not denote the knowledge of God as God. We need, each of us, for God to reveal himself to us just as he in fact is, and not as we think him to be. For to what degree is your faith placed in the crucified and resurrected Christ, and to what degree is it placed in a false image of your own imagining that serves your own self interest?
 
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above said:
This is a very interesting question. What about people who had no chance to be saved? The people who are born in foreign countries where they have no choice in their religion? People dying before they are babtised? Does someone have reliable information about this?
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The bible says the whole world will be told of him. That's what's happening now.
 
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andrew4 said:
I want to get everyone's opinion on this. The other day I was reading Matthew chapter 5: 20-46. According to what I read, it seems like very few people will be saved. I may be wrong, but I get the impression that many Christians are more concerned with being "religious," memorizing bible versus, loving God and having a relationship with him, than being Holy and righteous for God. Many people say they love God, but sometimes I get the sense that it is more a love of affection and appreciation, rather than as our Lord said, "Those that love me follow my commandments." The imagery in those versus makes me think people today don't really grasp the gravity of sin and that WAY too much emphasis is put on his forgiveness and mercy to the point of a false complacency. In my opinion, there will be A LOT of disappointed "Christians" on the day of judgment. What do you guys think?
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You are right, Only about 3% of the world population will be saved. I heard it talked about a while ago and when asked where the teacher got his information, he came out with this: (Rev 9:16) And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

That amounts to about 2 hundred million people that will make it into heaven.:eek:
 
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You are right, Only about 3% of the world population will be saved. I heard it talked about a while ago and when asked where the teacher got his information, he came out with this: (Rev 9:16) And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

That amounts to about 2 hundred million people that will make it into heaven.:eek:
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where in the Bible says it that the army of the horsemen are the ones that are saved?
 
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where in the Bible says it that the army of the horsemen are the ones that are saved?
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All the rest of it is from Amos 5:3 based from what the teacher is saying, However, I did not see him develop it, so it has to be studied, and if I can get more info I let you know.

(Amos 5:3) For thus saith the Lord God; The city that went out [by] a thousand shall leave an hundred, and that which went forth [by] an hundred shall leave ten, to the house of Israel.
He says it is something as of a tithe/tenth of the whole. 2 hundred million.
 
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andrew4 said:
I want to get everyone's opinion on this. The other day I was reading Matthew chapter 5: 20-46. According to what I read, it seems like very few people will be saved. I may be wrong, but I get the impression that many Christians are more concerned with being "religious," memorizing bible versus, loving God and having a relationship with him, than being Holy and righteous for God. Many people say they love God, but sometimes I get the sense that it is more a love of affection and appreciation, rather than as our Lord said, "Those that love me follow my commandments." The imagery in those versus makes me think people today don't really grasp the gravity of sin and that WAY too much emphasis is put on his forgiveness and mercy to the point of a false complacency. In my opinion, there will be A LOT of disappointed "Christians" on the day of judgment. What do you guys think?
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Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
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I also hope many people get saved. The whole world need to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
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If I am not mistaken,there will be 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel.As for others I don't know.I know there will be many that will be disappointed.
 
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