School trouble

[jinx]

My daughter was scared to ask her math teacher a question because she was afraid to get yelled at by her teacher. I work at the grade school kitchen so when I heard this I talked with the other ladies at work. They gave me their 2 cents, and then I ask some of the other children in that class, about the yelling. They told me it was bad. So I told the assistant principal, talked with the teacher a couple times, got her side of the story, and got a new perspective about the situation. That math teacher has a hard time keeping that class under control and she has to "talk over" the kids who just came in from lunch/recess...all 29 of these hyper kids. I voiced my concern about my daughter being afraid and told her I would encourage my daughter to ask for help when she needed it.

I sympathize with this teacher. I couldn't handle 29 raging kids without my hair being all pulled out. I understand the situation now. my co-workers do not. And they let me know they don't.

I find it very hard to be able to smile about the situation around them knowing they don't approve of the teachers situation or explanation. Almost makes me think they want me to get on their band wagon and I can't do that.
I get so tired with myself because i always feel the need to please others before myself. I don't want to make anyone mad. Call it lack of self esteem or what ever, but it's frustrating, and I'm tired of living like this.

 

[Fenner]

I feel for most teachers these days, over worked crowded classrooms, these stupid mandated tests they push on our schools and children. I am on your side.

 

[tdrew777]

1. The teacher is in a tough situation
2. The teacher DOES need help - shouting is NOT an EFFECTIVE method of classroom control. When the kids get rowdy, he/she needs a different strategy.
3. Your daughter needs help to adjust to this type of situation if you are going to send her to public schools.
4. Congratulations on refusing to gossip with your co-workers.

 

[Lucy68]

Have you considered a Christian school...or homeschooling? Seems like the biggest problem in public school is the chaotic classroom. It's very hard to teach or to learn in chaos .

 

[G4JC]

[video=youtube;IbFEcHwVS48]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbFEcHwVS48[/video]

 

[kiabra]

Here in South Africa they crowd the classes with 40 kids, I kid you not. the clever ones and the under achievers get left behind. I call it crowd control. My daughter had an auditory processing problem so she couldnt filter out the noise, so she is now homeschooled, but its not an option for most. The teachers are stressed and tired and have a lot of work to get through, and next to motherhood is the hardest job in the world. You do however get teachers that go overboard and flip out from frustration. Cudos to you for not engaging in tearing down the teacher's name

 

[jinx]

I could never home school, I'm not smart or driven enough. I believe she needs that interaction, and I believe that she needs to learn that the world is tough and she needs to know how to handle herself in situations. I feel the best I can do is keep the lines of communication open, and encourage her, and when something like this happens, step in and handle it. Social interaction is a very big part of growing up. Kids need this.

 

[Photoss]

Social interaction is a very big part of growing up. Kids need this.

This is extraordinarily arguable. Are you saying homeschoolers don't get any social interaction?

 

[jinx]

This is extraordinarily arguable. Are you saying homeschoolers don't get any social interaction?

ok, point taken. In my experience, social experience from school does a child good. granted you have to have the communication going, and stay of top of things, I see it very beneficial.

 

[kiabra]

my daughter is actually in a homeschool support centre where she has 6 kids in her class. she is the only 7th grader, but she still has all the interaction she needs. She also goes to art classes and plays baseball and so on. I would never dream of "packing her away"

 

[BarlyGurl]

I am very pro home school... because public schools (read government schools) are indocterinating anti-christian socialism agenda which is intended to lead to communism. (If you doubt that please watch the agenda video posted by age of knowlege in this forum) I deeply appreciate your concession that you don't feel "smart enough" s I have noticed some independent home schooled adults who are not independant thinkers, have poor or superficail analytical problem solving skills, lack biblical understanding and are basically no different a people than unbeleivers. So I truly appreciate that you are willing to admit you may not be equipted to homeschool. That said... nowadays thee is little excuse for not homeschooling as there are a multitude of online resources, internet academies, home-school cooperatives and christian schools with scholarship tuition programs. THere is no intention to call you out personally but IMHO when people who profess to be bible believing Christians send their children to public school these days... the real issue is how serious are you about your faith? Public school is so far removed from the education it was even when I was a child... and well exactly who do you serve? and who do want your child to serve? are the children God blessed you with belong to the government or to God? In the US we have the freedom to choose... send your kids to public school is a religious ruelet... I don't believe God approves of us playing a crap-shoot regarding faith formation in out children.

 

[Nautilus]

i guess it always turns to those scary scary public schools

 

[kiabra]

do you have Christian private schools in the U.S.?

 

[jinx]

I am very pro home school... because public schools (read government schools) are indocterinating anti-christian socialism agenda which is intended to lead to communism. (If you doubt that please watch the agenda video posted by age of knowlege in this forum) I deeply appreciate your concession that you don't feel "smart enough" s I have noticed some independent home schooled adults who are not independant thinkers, have poor or superficail analytical problem solving skills, lack biblical understanding and are basically no different a people than unbeleivers. So I truly appreciate that you are willing to admit you may not be equipted to homeschool. That said... nowadays thee is little excuse for not homeschooling as there are a multitude of online resources, internet academies, home-school cooperatives and christian schools with scholarship tuition programs. THere is no intention to call you out personally but IMHO when people who profess to be bible believing Christians send their children to public school these days... the real issue is how serious are you about your faith? Public school is so far removed from the education it was even when I was a child... and well exactly who do you serve? and who do want your child to serve? are the children God blessed you with belong to the government or to God? In the US we have the freedom to choose... send your kids to public school is a religious ruelet... I don't believe God approves of us playing a crap-shoot regarding faith formation in out children.

***cracks knuckles***

REALLY??? "how serious am I about my faith?" Did you really just say that?

You don't go around telling people they have a problem with-in their own personal faith because they send their kids to public school. That's STUPID.
Where is the dedication and involvement in this theory?
SO I send my kids to public school and that automatically means my faith is weak, I have no involvement in my child's education, and I'm letting the "anti-christian socialism agenda hyped-up communistic government" take my children from GOD......
DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT?

Because if you would read my first post it was all about not giving into the "gossip" of where I work about the teachers themselves. I didn't write this post to say.... "oh I'm so fed up with school systems blah blah blah"
NO. It was about how I handled a situation, and I wanted feed back, because i felt like a bad person for even talking about it with my co-workers. But it sure did end up a thread for peoples own personal agenda to make it all about public vs home school.
And lets talk about this home school stuff. I'M NOT AGAINST IT! It just isn't for me seeing me and my husband both work, and I'm dumber than a door nail.
As for bringing my children up in the "faith"... you didn't bother asking me how often I go to church, if we talk about GOD, ect ect. did Ya. NOPE. :\ Just automatically thought that since I put my kid is public school my father is the devil.
NICE.



I should have named this thread.... "problems with gossip"

 

[iTOREtheSKY]

I don't have kids...but I lean to being anti-home schooling. Mind you this is only because of my 1st hand witnessing the families who were involved in it back in my old church. Seems many of their kids were so socially out of touch with how to interact with other children outside of the family unit. I would substitute teach from time to time as well in our kid's sunday school,and many of the home schooled kid's could barely socialize properly with other christian children. I think it can be too smothering,as well as not giving kids a proper understanding of what the world is really like. I get the not being of this world thing..but if you're so spiritually minded that you are of no earthly good,then how can you help the unsaved?
I'm not knocking parents who home school...you peeps have it tough enough just being a parent,let alone trying to balance a Godly lifestyle for the little ones. All I can say is try to keep it a healthy balance.

 

[jinx]

Oh like I said, I'm not against it either, but by-george you better be one smart dedicated parent to do this or it goes down hill fast for your kids.
I knew a home-school family, those teenagers couldn't spell to save their life nor write neat. The parents willy-nillied it and the kids got the blunt of it.
My first child has aspergers (social autism) he NEEDED the interaction with others and he needed the special education that they provided in order for him to make it though. Now he is 19, he holds a job, his room is a mess like a bachelor pad but he graduated HS and if it wasn't for that public school who saw his autistic quirks we would still be scratching our heads! Every kid is different! you can't paint brush them and say "home school or burn in hell". YEAH, that will bring people to church.

 

[BarlyGurl]

***cracks knuckles***

REALLY??? "how serious am I about my faith?" Did you really just say that?

You don't go around telling people they have a problem with-in their own personal faith because they send their kids to public school. That's STUPID.
Where is the dedication and involvement in this theory?
SO I send my kids to public school and that automatically means my faith is weak, I have no involvement in my child's education, and I'm letting the "anti-christian socialism agenda hyped-up communistic government" take my children from GOD......
DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT?

Because if you would read my first post it was all about not giving into the "gossip" of where I work about the teachers themselves. I didn't write this post to say.... "oh I'm so fed up with school systems blah blah blah"
NO. It was about how I handled a situation, and I wanted feed back, because i felt like a bad person for even talking about it with my co-workers. But it sure did end up a thread for peoples own personal agenda to make it all about public vs home school.
And lets talk about this home school stuff. I'M NOT AGAINST IT! It just isn't for me seeing me and my husband both work, and I'm dumber than a door nail.
As for bringing my children up in the "faith"... you didn't bother asking me how often I go to church, if we talk about GOD, ect ect. did Ya. NOPE. :\ Just automatically thought that since I put my kid is public school my father is the devil.
NICE.

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I should have named this thread.... "problems with gossip"

Really??? back at you... I did commend you for having the transparency to say you may not be equipted to home school? Saying you are dumber than a doorpost is just a self-diminishing excuse... your post and many others you have written demonstrate otherwise. Noticing adult home schooled children likened to the ones I alluded to also demonstrates how NOT dumber than a doorpost you are. I am a crumby typisy, have a sticky keyboard a don't really care about typos due to the time it takes to correct them... some people might draw some conclusions about me based on my typos in my messages but I am educated and have seen plenty of the differences in Home school vs public school in my adult years.
You asked for opinions and I gave mine... It so happens my response was bent toward home school solution... like a few other responses. I did specifically say my post was not intended to pesonally call you out... but obviously your read it that way. Heres' the thing... some of us... who are a little farther down the road than others... have a been afforded a view of things you have not yet traveled. SO taking the oppostional offense to my words and getting all defensive is basically the same as saying... " hey don't tell me there is a dangerous curve up ahead... I know what I am doing... how stupid of you to think I can't navigate this road I have been driving for years ya know". So carry on smartly... or dumb as a doorpost at your own peril.
How often you go to church or how often you talk about God is of little consequence... the scripture says be my deciplal... which would include make your children disciples... not hand them over for the government to dicipal... the bible is pretty cut and dry on that... regardless of what modern society practices. Ya know... the never changing God???
I said public school is playing a crap shoot... if you wanna gamble go ahead.

 

[jinx]

boy you missed that one didn't you.
The fact remains that you are saying that if we put our kids into public schools or faith is weak, and not as good as yours.

 

[jinx]

Heres' the thing... some of us... who are a little farther down the road than others... have a been afforded a view of things you have not yet traveled.

A little further down the road. In other words: more mature in CHRIST.

THere is no intention to call you out personally but IMHO when people who profess to be bible believing Christians send their children to public school these days... the real issue is how serious are you about your faith?

How else am I to call it? I just stated that I send my kids to public school and you give me this. NO OFFENCE THERE...LOL

How often you go to church or how often you talk about God is of little consequence... the scripture says be my deciplal

Barlygurl: How do you be a disciple? What do you personally do to be a disciple?

What do I do to be a disciple?
Thanks for asking......

I go to church. I pray. I try and live my life in a good way so that there is no way someone can look at me and say, She isn't a christian.

my-goodness. if your going to tell people they aint Christians because they send their kids to public school, it sounds like I've traveled further down that road than you have.

quick question...... how many kids have you home schooled cause your profile says you have no kids.

 

[jinx]

and yeah i'm a tad bit upset with the fact that someone is telling me my christian faith is weak because I don't home-school. How else am I supposed to take those comments?