Mark of the Beast.

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gotime

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I have heard many things about what the mark of the beast is, but what does the bible say?

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

notice that this mark is in the right hand and or in the forehead. There is a number of the beast but we are interested in the mark itself. there is no buying and selling etc but again we are interested in the mark itself.

Revelation 14 gives more insight.

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,


Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

notice that the mark is connected with those who worship the beast and his image. what image? we need to know because this mark is connected with worshiping the beast. It is in direct opposition to the call of the first angel.

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

This angel calls us to worship Him who created the earth etc. before this there is a group that have a name in their foreheads.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

so Gods people have their Father's name written in their foreheads.

so we have a group that don't receive this mark

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

They did not worship the beast or his image or his mark.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

do you remember a place where Gods people were being forced to worship an image?

Dan 3:1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

interesting that the messurments of the Statue is 60 cubits high and 6 cubits wide.

Dan 3:10 Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:
Dan 3:11 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

We know the story, shadrach,Meshach and Abednego did not bow down because the very act would break the commandments of God. and God protected them in this.

So we learn that there was a law passed by the state that went against the commandments of God. notice the difference between those who get the mark of the beast and the saints.




Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Those who are saints keep the commandments of God.

notice the Old testament mark of Gods people.

Just after the reading of the 10 commandments in chapter 5 it says this.

Deu 6:1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
Deu 6:2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
Deu 6:3 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
Deu 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

So the 10 commandments are to be a sign on the hand and the forehead. hmmm sound familiar.

lets put this together, the mark of the beast involves worship and the mark of God involves obeying Gods commandments which are worship to God.

These are in contrast

1Ki 9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them:

2Ch 7:19 But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;

Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

There is no missing that the mark of the best is in opposition to Gods law. what part of Gods law is most attacked today?
Could this be the image?


Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws...

What law has to do with time?

I don't have time to make all the connections, nor am I trying to prove my point. rather for the true seeker study it out and see where it leads. blessings.




Isa 8:13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
Isa 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Isa 8:15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.
Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
 
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GreenNnice

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Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

gt, this seems to say that some who did not receive the mark and went to heaven after dying earthlly death, I say this because we do not hear of the mark of the beast yet in life. We know it is coming, but I personally believe in the Rapture and that those in Christ will be here and then disappear, like that Kirk Cameron movie, Left Behind, and so, those still here will have opportunity still to make their ways known during the 7 years (70 weeks) of Daniel and the tribulations that begin in mild succession of bad to worse of things like horses coming to kill as immediately 1/3 of the 8 billion Earth population gets wiped out in 7 years of Daniel time and then later all those different bowls, during these two times, I feel will be the time that the mark of the beast will be given to you and if you do not take it you will be beheaded.
 
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In his inspired Word, God provides the needed clues with regard to the number 666, the name, or mark, of the wild beast of Revelation, Chapter 13.

Consider the following four main lines of reasoning-vital clues-that will reveal the meaning of the mark of the beast: (1) how Bible names are sometimes chosen, (2) the identity of the wild beast, (3) what is meant by 666 being “a man’s number,” and (4) the significance of the number 6 and why it is written in triple digits, namely, 600 plus 60 plus 6, or 666.-Revelation 13:18.

Bible names often have special significance, particularly when given by God. For example, because Abram would become the father of nations, God changed the patriarch’s name to Abraham, meaning “Father of a Multitude.” (Genesis 17:5) God told Joseph and Mary to call Mary’s future child Jesus, which means “Jehovah Is Salvation.”-Matthew 1:21; Luke 1:31.

The Bible book of Daniel sheds much light on the meaning of symbolic beasts. Chapter 7 contains a vivid tableau of “four huge beasts”-a lion, a bear, a leopard, and a fearsome beast with big teeth of iron. (Daniel 7:2-7) Daniel tells us that these beasts represent “kings,” or political kingdoms, that rule in succession over vast empires.-Daniel 7:17, 23.

Accordingly, the God-given number-name 666 must symbolize what God sees as defining attributes of the beast. Naturally, to understand those traits, one needs to identify the beast itself and learn about its activities.

Regarding the beast of Revelation 13:1, 2, The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible points out that it “combines in itself the joint characteristics of the four beasts of Daniel’s vision…. Accordingly, this first beast [of Revelation] represents the combined forces of all political rule opposed to God in the world.” This observation is affirmed by Revelation 13:7, which says of the beast: “Authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.”

The Bible use beasts as symbols of human rulership for at least two reasons. First, because of the beastly record of bloodshed that governments have accrued over the centuries. (Ecclesiastes 8:9) The second reason is that “the dragon [Satan] gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority.” (Revelation 12:9; 13:2) Accordingly, human rulership is a product of the Devil, thus reflecting his beastly, dragonlike disposition.-John 8:44; Ephesians 6:12.

A third clue to the meaning of 666 lies in its being “a man’s number,” or as “a human number.” This expression could not refer to an individual human, for Satan-not any man-has authority over the beast. (Luke 4:5, 6; 1 John 5:19; Revelation 13:2, 18) Rather, the beast’s having “a human number,” or mark, suggests that it is a human entity, not spirit or demon, and that it therefore manifests certain human traits. (Romans 3:23) The beast’s having “a human number,” therefore, indicates that governments reflect the fallen human condition, the mark of sin and imperfection.

In the Scriptures, certain numbers have symbolic significance. The number seven, for example, is often used to symbolize that which is complete, or perfect, in God’s eyes. For instance, God’s creative week comprises seven ‘days,’ or extended time periods, during which God completely accomplishes his creative purpose regarding the earth. (Genesis 1:3-2:3) God’s “sayings” are like silver that has been “clarified seven times,” thus perfectly refined. (Psalm 12:6; Proverbs 30:5, 6) The leper Naaman was told to bathe seven times in the Jordan River, after which he was completely healed.-2 Kings 5:10, 14.

Six is one short of seven. It is a fitting symbol of something imperfect, or defective, in God’s eyes. (1 Chronicles 20:6, 7) Moreover, six repeated three times, as 666, powerfully stresses that imperfection. That this is the correct view is supported by the fact that 666 is “a human number,” as we have considered. Thus, the beast’s record, its “human number,” and the number 666 itself all point to one unmistakable conclusion-gross shortcoming and failure in the eyes of Jehovah.

“The mark,” whether on the right hand or on the forehead, figuratively speaking, is a symbol that identifies its bearer as one who gives worshipful support to the beastlike political systems of the world. Those having the mark give to “Caesar” that which rightly belongs to God. (Luke 20:25; Revelation 13:4, 8; 14:1) By giving worshipful honor to the political state, its symbols, and its military might, to which they look for hope and salvation. Any worship that they render the true God is merely lip service.

In contrast, the Bible urges us: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs. His spirit goes out; he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.” (Psalm 146:3, 4) Those who heed that wise counsel are not disillusioned when governments fail to deliver on their promises or when charismatic leaders fall from grace.-Proverbs 1:33.
 
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nathan3

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To: gotime. I think your on the right track so far.

To change something would be change from worshiping Christ , to a false Christ. ( 1 thess 2 ).



I'm glade you looked at the Bible and all these places, and even made the connection the the golden image set up by the king of Babylon ,( babble = confusion ).

I'm happy you did not resort to computer chips etc... Instead you made the connection to the act of worship, God's commandments and worship of Him, and the worship or commandments of something false or fake .. Looking at the scriptures carefully; is the way.
 
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nathan3

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I meant 2 thess 2
 
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peterT

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How do we symbolise being killed for not bowing to the image or receive a mark.

How do we symbolise not being able to buy and sell unless you have the mark.

You can symbolise some things, but hard to symbolise being killed losing your life for not bowing to the image or receive his mark. And it’s hard to symbolise not being able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.

The devil is arrogant and wants what’s his.

And God/angels separating then which are his and them which are not.

And the angels came forth and sever the wicked from among the just,

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

By the time Jesus comes and gets us, the tares will be already gathered first into neat little bundles to burn (666).And then gathers the wheat into his barn.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
 
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How do we symbolise being killed for not bowing to the image or receive a mark.

How do we symbolise not being able to buy and sell unless you have the mark.

You can symbolise some things, but hard to symbolise being killed losing your life for not bowing to the image or receive his mark. And it’s hard to symbolise not being able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.

The devil is arrogant and wants what’s his.

And God/angels separating then which are his and them which are not.

And the angels came forth and sever the wicked from among the just,

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

By the time Jesus comes and gets us, the tares will be already gathered first into neat little bundles to burn (666).And then gathers the wheat into his barn.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

1 John 3:15-17

14*We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15*Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

16*Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

17*But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

That's how.
 
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peterT

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1 John 3:15-17

14*We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15*Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

16*Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

17*But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

That's how.
Nice verses but what do you mean “That's how”.

I think I missed you point
 
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How do we symbolise being killed for not bowing to the image or receive a mark.

How do we symbolise not being able to buy and sell unless you have the mark.

You can symbolise some things, but hard to symbolise being killed losing your life for not bowing to the image or receive his mark. And it’s hard to symbolise not being able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.
That's how being liked is symbolized. When we hate our brothers we are murderers.
 
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peterT

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That's how being liked is symbolized. When we hate our brothers we are murderers.
Yes I understand that.

But how do you liken it to buying and selling unless you have the mark.

And how do you liken it to being killed for not bowing to the image or receive his mark.

That’s the bit I don’t understand
 
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Yes I understand that.

But how do you liken it to buying and selling unless you have the mark.

And how do you liken it to being killed for not bowing to the image or receive his mark.

That’s the bit I don’t understand
If you truly want to know these answers I will tell you. But will you listen to them?
 
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trukin

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it's called a bar code. u will have a barcode imprinted on your hand or head. all bar codes have the number 666 in them. the main computor in...i forget whitch country, the name of the machine is called "the beast".... this is the truth. let me see if i can find something more on this
 
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trukin

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the 2 skinny lines are at the beginning, middle and end. that particular code is the number 6 in each of those locations
 
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trukin

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the 2 skinny lines are at the beginning, middle and end. that particular code is the number 6 in each of those locations

do you see what im talking about. next to the "0" there is 2 skinny lines then in the middle between the 0 and the 2 is another then another at the end near the last 2
 
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trukin

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those particaular lines are on EVERY bar code that is on items in stores and such. now there are some variations to bar codes but in the beginning, this is what they used all the time. the bar code reader has to see those three sets of lines to validate that is is an authentic bar code and those three set of lines are the number 666, therefore in the future, there will be no need in cash to buy or sell. your money will be credited in your bank account and the only way to purchase anything will be to have this "mark"
 
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Laodicea

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those particaular lines are on EVERY bar code that is on items in stores and such. now there are some variations to bar codes but in the beginning, this is what they used all the time. the bar code reader has to see those three sets of lines to validate that is is an authentic bar code and those three set of lines are the number 666, therefore in the future, there will be no need in cash to buy or sell. your money will be credited in your bank account and the only way to purchase anything will be to have this "mark"
A mark like that will not affect the way we worship. Worship is mentioned 8 times in Revelation 13 & 14. Those who worship the beast and his image will receive the mark of the beast, those who worship God will receive the seal of God.
 
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trukin

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"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead." Revelation 13:16
The beast is Satan. But he will appear on earth as a powerful, awesome being. He will claim that he is God. This will happen very soon.
A few months after the beast comes to earth he will attempt to force every person on earth to receive the mark of the beast. He will make a law requiring every person to receive the mark of the beast and there will be stiff penalities to anyone who refuses. This law will apply to every person in every country on earth.
It won’t matter if you are very wealthy or if you are poor. It won’t matter if you are the leader of a great country or if no one knows your name. You may be free, or you may be in prison or in debt.
You may be old or young, male of female. You may be very religious or you may not even believe in God. Nothing about you will matter. If you are alive you will be under great pressure to receive the mark of the beast.
If you choose to receive the mark of the beast it will be placed on your forehead or on your right hand.
You will be given a choice about what mark you want to receive. You will be allowed to choose from any of the 666 names that belong to the beast. Each of the 666 names is a name for God. Each name is blasphemous because the beast is not God.
The beast is Satan, pretending to be God. He will command you to worship him and to receive his mark and he won’t care which of his 666 names you choose.
[h=2]Who will get the mark of the beast?[/h]Almost everyone in the world will get the mark of the beast. There are many reasons why people will choose to get the mark:

  1. It will be required for everyone
  2. There will be severe penalties for refusing the mark of the beast
  3. There will be great rewards for getting the mark of the beast
  4. People will believe they are honoring God by receiving the mark of the beast
  5. People will be afraid of not getting the mark of the beast
  6. Peer pressure – most other people are getting the mark of the beast
  7. Financial pressure – can’t buy or sell without the mark of the beast
People will want to get the mark of the beast because then they will be allowed to buy food, water, medicine and clothes. They will be able to work and get paid. Humanly speaking, getting the mark of the beast will be the logical, sane, safe, smart thing to do. But spiritually speaking, it is not wise to get the mark of the beast.
Please understand that God will not allow anyone to receive the mark of the beast unless they choose to get it. People will not be physically forced against their will. But most people will choose to worship the beast and to receive his mark.