Obesity/overweight among Chrisitans

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Romans: 14. 1. Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. -

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More about meat sacrificed to idols, but still the point is made not to judge or despise others based on diet.
 
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Ariel82

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God would rather we fast from evil deeds than food.
 
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Matthew 15:11 - Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Romans: 14. 1. Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. -

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More about meat sacrificed to idols, but still the point is made not to judge or despise others based on diet.
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I am not doing that.
Your changing the subject. I merely asked you if your implying some people are better off eating meat as a main staple of their diets and do do you think some people are better off eating a plant based diet.
I asked you if you believe that what do you base it on?
You said different diets work for different people. I am just asking you to elaborate.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Matthew 15:11 - Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
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The OP started this thread with a obesity/overweight title and post. I am trying to stick to the subject. I think if you want to talk about sin and wickedness, we should take it to another thread,.
 
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Sorry just gathering scriptures and reading the thread.
 
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So the thread started about rather obesity indicated a sinful, slothful lifestyle....morphed into how evryone should be vegans...mixed in with some personality clashes and drama, I kind of skimmed...to this page.


1. It's not a sin to be obese. God looks at our hearts and if we are covered by the blood of Jesus, not our physical bodies. This the scripture about the importance of what comes out over what goes in.

2. The Bible warns people against the false doctrine that claims all people should be vegans and abstain from meat. I can post those scriptures if needed.

However, scripture also says if people want to be vegan, we should not despise their weak faith and still accept them as siblings.

3. What do I base my statement about different diets on?

Certain diseases cause people to have stricter diets. It's recorded fact.

If your spleen doesn't work well, you have to eat less fatty foods.

If you are diabetic, you should lower sugar intake.

A friend can't have protein because of a certain disease she has.

There are more examples where health determine diet.
 
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Another point. How is it that fasting is supposed to strengthen the spiritual connection. Now don't you find it a coincidence how a lack of food is used in that regard.
And no one here thinks an abundance of food, especially filthy toxic food won't impair it?
Wake up people.
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I've thought of this before and came to this conclusion; the brain normally uses glucose as fuel. When there is no glucose available the body turns fat into ketones to use as fuel. This fuel actually increases brain function even better than glucose. I think that it is designed that way so when we are starving we become better hunters. You can train your body to enter ketosis more regularly by not eating until after noon. As long as you don't reduce your calorie intake on a daily basis you will continue to burn body fat in the morning. The Bible says that Jesus often woke early to pray. I'm not sure what starving yourself to the point of near death would do but I'm almost positive that it may open your "third eye", and remove the veil. When people are near death and their body starts shutting down that's when they say they see loved ones or Jesus or angels. I think it makes it more possible to slip outside the body. The body is just our vehicle while we are here. Our regular eyes see only "visible" light or the spectrum. Our true self is capable of seeing all of the other light waves.
 
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Btw, the meal AuntieAnt provided for my parents and me was delicious!!!!

That's all. Carry on.

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"Third eye" that is New Age mysticism.

We don't have to fast from food to see into the Spirit realm...we just have to pray and wait for God to give us that gift.

Jesus said the pure of heart shall see God.
 
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God wants us to eat healthy and get to work. Not obsess over our looks or our diet.

He has a mission for us and He provides the food.
 
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Your reply displays your lack of knowledge about nutrition and disease. Which is fine, I doubt your trained in that area, or you would know better, Your parroting the nonsense the medical community wants you to believe.
I sure you have heard the term holistic
That how the body works.
People have certain diseases based on genetics and their awful diets, and also to a lesser extent environment and psychological issues.
If your spleen doesn't work well due to injury, a plant based or raw vegan diet may very well increase the chances of it healing or improving dramatically.
If your a type 2 diabetic, go on a plant based diet. Cut our processed foods. Good chance you may be able to lose the label diabetic.
Your friend may have those diseases because she has had a poor diet, although I can't say for sure without you telling me. Can she have plant based protein?
See the common link? One diet for everyone for biological healing.
If you think I am wrong about what I just said, please tell me why.
 
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Ariel82 said:
"Third eye" that is New Age mysticism.

We don't have to fast from food to see into the Spirit realm...we just have to pray and wait for God to give us that gift.

Jesus said the pure of heart shall see God.
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You don't have to train to run a mile either. But if you do, which version of you do you think has a better chance of being more productive?
 
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JosephsDreams said:
You don't have to train to run a mile either. But if you do, which version of you do you think has a better chance of being more productive?
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The one where you don't sin against God by engaging in occult practices.
 
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1 Timothy: 4. 3. Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5. For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 6. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. 7. But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness. 8. For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. 9. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. 10. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 11. These things command and teach.
 
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Matthew: 11. 18. For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.

19. The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
 
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It's actually old age mysticism. The pine cone is a symbol of enlightenment because of the pineal gland. All I can say is that Jesus told us seek and you will find and let me tell you I sought, and sought, and sought and still seek. Lucifer uses everything that God intended for good, to do bad. I'm fairly certain that it's the receiver into the unseen realm. Not unlike a radio adjusts the frequency to pick up transmissions from transmitters, our minds when focused on all that is kind and loving and faithful with thanksgiving and Christ, we receive the God frequency, the Holy Spirit. When we are fearful and spiteful and self serving we can contact demons. Then through this link they have the power to influence our thoughts like allowing someone to link with your computer. Our flesh is all just bio-mechanical-electric machines complete with telecommunications. You can't possibly think that humans were the first to invent this technology. Occultists have known stuff like this for millennia. They depict it in their artwork and symbols. Guess where the biggest pine cone sculpture is. Ok I'll tell you, Vatican.
 
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