Recent content by Chester

Unfortunately I do know people in the OSAS camp who live this way - and a few who talk this way.

Romans 6:23: The wages of sin is death All sin leads to death: whether murder, adultery, or a tiny lie. It takes only one sin and a person is guilty before God: and eternal death is the result. James 2:10: If a man keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all...

Our salvation is not based on our works. Thus we do not "weave in and out of" salvation bases on our actions or thoughts. Not even close!!!!!! Salvation is always based simply and factually on this: Are you believing in Jesus Christ?

The problem is not interpretation of Scripture. It is taking one's presupposed doctrine and docrtinal statements and imposing it upon the Scriptures.

Just looking carefully at the one verse you quote is sufficient to see the point: John 5:24 says that the one who is hearing and is believing (both verbs are the Greek present tense = ongoing action) has eternal life. That promise is sufficient for me. I do not need to add "unrevocable...

If I save someone from drowning in a pool: that is - I saved them, but they jump back into the pool again after I leave, and drown: Now does that mean that since they lost their life, that I never saved them at all?

Most of the passages used to "prove" OSAS are powerful promises to the ones who are believing in Jesus. But it is clear they are promises to the one who is believing in Jesus. They are not promises to the one who is not believing.

The person who is believing and continues to believe has eternal life. But the one who is not believing (in Jesus) does not have eternal life. This is what Scripture teaches. OSAS says that once a person has faith, he will always have faith. This eliminates free choice for the believer...

Ah, you hit the nail on the head. Much of the Western Protestant church has become very feminized. Nothing wrong with the emotional music, etc, but please don't take it into the mens' small group of all places!. And men meeting at a coffee shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::cry:

I think the phrase immediately after "quench not the Spirit" helps identify a major way the Spirit's fire is put out. When others are speaking about God (prophesying) and we grumble or rebel about their words, then that is quenching the Spirit. Or when the Spirit tells us to speak for Jesus...

Jeremiah 38:13 KJV So they drew up Jeremiah with cords, and took him up out of the dungeon: and Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison.

I agree with you that Jesus is the greatest gift. On the other hand, we really do not need to make too big a deal out of it all because without the Word we would not know the Lamb! The Word is so intertwined with Jesus (who is in fact called the Word (logos) by John) that we must realize we...

So, first, I am not the OP and am not trying to state what Scripture says about how to get into the first resurrection. You are the one putting forward the doctrine that "Paul is teaching that water baptism is literally necessary to have a resurrected body:" I am just saying that I do not...

Your main point here seems to be that "Paul is teaching that water baptism is literally necessary to have a resurrected body:" But when I looked carefully at the verses that you quote I did not find this statement clearly shown by the verses you give. You begin with I Corinthians 15:29, and...

No, repentance alone does not bring salvation. Repentance is a change of thinking. A person may be believing that they can achieve their own salvation by their good works, and then change their way of thinking (that is, they repent). But that change of thinking does not save them. To be...