A glaring problem with modern christianity

Pat Robertson is officially off his rocker and yet still one of the most prominent Christians that are active in the media. Every wonder why people crack jokes and don't take Christians seriously? Well it's because when famous ones say nutjob stuff like this:

Sounds more like a glaring problem with Pat Robertson, than one with Christianity itself.

Well the problem is that he is "still one of the most prominent Christians that are active in the media.", as Nautilus put it.

He is an iconic member of the christian community for a lot of people. Being one of the founders of the 700 club and running in the 1998 republican primary have brought him a lot of notice. We might not like, but he is one of the people very closely associated with christianity in this country. and this is the tripe he says...

Nautilius, I have noticed that you are always siding with the world when making fun of Christians or attacking Christians. I'm confused because you say you are Christian too I'm pretty sure you already know not ALL Christians are like this. Btw, I think there are MANY problems with modern Christianity in case you think I'm blinded to reality. However, the main reason why people crack jokes about Christians is because they don't like their sin exposed.

hi how r u all belivers of Christ,,,,lets pray to one another

There is a scourge of dispensationalism which fills even this forum with immediate expectations of end time events. A confusion of Americanism with Christianity as though it is America or maybe the constitution that is to be worshiped not Christ Himself. There is a strain of theocratism, people who want their own morality defined with the strictest Biblical principles to be used nationally.

This will happen anytime people hold anything or anyone up as an example of "Christianity", other than Jesus Himself. People are people. The media will report and focus on whomever they think proves their point.

Nautilis, While I don't agree with Pat Robertson in general, he does have a point here. The fact is, True Christianity is being teared apart by the World, because, just as Kayem said, because the World doesn't want to see it's sin. Even the Bible specifically states this. Even those of us who are Christians, what is are first reaction when we are pointed out our sin? Quite often, it's to become defensive. We, both Christians and Non-Christians, tend to be prideful, and having to humble ourselves to admit we have sinned against God is not an easy thing to do.

The problem has to do with the media trying to stir up as much controversy as possible. Robertson says a lot of crazy things and many news sources report on it when he does. Most of the time the news doesn't get moderate, respectable Christians to explain that this isn't how most Christians feel and is unrelated to anything that Christianity is based on. Instead they choose to get someone who agrees with Robertson to talk more about it or have that person debate with a loud mouth atheist. This isn't because the media dislikes Christianity, they are just trying to make their show as entertaining as possible by showing extremes. It is a shame that a lot of people start believing that being Christian has these strange ideas connected to it due to this media technique. All it really means is that the more reasonable Christians should speak their ideas louder and make sure that the public knows that Robertson's beliefs do not always, or even often, reflect that of the majority of Christians.

Bingo. And people should remember that "Christian" means "a follower of Christ". Forgive me for plainly stating it, but Pat Robertson is not worth following. Nor am I.

Is Christ divided? Was Pat Robertson crucified for you? Or were ye baptized in the name of Jerry Falwell?

What Pat said is right on target, with what is taking place in the USA. If you can't see it, then
you have a short memory span, and also, don't know the OT. The people in the USA are no
different than any other human that has lived. When people start to trend to wickedness, opposition
must be removed. The church says repent, yet wicked people are drawn to wickedness like
an addiction, wanting more and more. I have seen the trend taking place over the past 30 or so
years. Its even displayed in the OT. When the nation of Israel began to turn from God and got
worse and worse, God sent them prophets. They were hated and the people didn't want to hear
what God said. The people took their hatred out on the prophets.

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent
unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her
chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Why was John the Baptist killed? For speaking out on the king's immoral marriage.

And this verse:
Jer 11:21 Therefore thus saith the LORD of the men of Anathoth, that seek thy life, saying, Prophesy
not in the name of the LORD, that thou die not by our hand:

Can you see it now? They told Jeremiah they would kill him, if he prophesy the word of God to them.
Its going to get that way in America, if the trend continues. Do you think people in the USA are
going to act differently, than other people, when they are lead and controled by seducing spirits?
The people of the USA are getting so consumed with wickedness that any mention of truth
and correct living creates a festering, boiling hatred to those who preach God's word.

And when this is pointed out...? Well, you see the festering hatred, I spoke about, in this post,
quoted above.

I'm not sure about you but when I mention Christianity people like Pat Robertson and his quotes get stuck in my face. And I have to agree with the worldly idiots that yeah, Pat's being a spiritual idiot. And anyone who thinks what Christians are going thru now is anything like what the Nazis did to the Jews hasn't a clue about history.

I think one of the main issues here is that Pat Robertson is talking as if Christian and Democrat are mutually exclusive and incompatible terms, but they're not. Republican doesn't automatically equal Christian, and Democrat doesn't automatically equal anti-Christian. Some people need to get that through their heads, especially the Christians, and I'm talking both sides here. Christians aren't supposed to devolve into finger pointing pharisees over republican and democratic parties, they're supposed to love each other despite any potential dividers.

Ehh, depends what country you're talking about. Outside of the US and western Europe, Christians are being killed and persecuted for their beliefs. In the US and western Europe, such persecution is largely ignored and unreported by the media, but instead people are being taught to mock and ridicule Christians on an intellectual/mental/emotional level rather than a physical level.

Here in lies the problems with modern Christianity:

No repentance along with heart purity, its all get saved in your sins, where repentance is just confession not a stopping of sin unto salvation. ISA 55-7

Holiness and seperation from the world is just a suggestion, due to thier OSAS doctrine of demons.

They promote original sin, substitution, pre forgiveness of sins, along with many more reformed errors that make the gospel according to godliness void and also a suggestion.

Now you can start to see WHY Christianity is the joke of the day, WHY most who see the likes of the TBN preachers, as well as many more who profess the false gospel, where godliness and obedience is an option, they Laugh at the great hypocrisy,while many die in thier sins, as they promote a false way to the cross!



Repent, repent, and you shall live, Jesus is calling, and has much to give!
Don't confess, admit, or shed a tear, but repent, forsake, with great humility and fear!
Jesus came to share His love, by calling His creation to stop sinning, and seek Him above!
The message is simple, but this message is lost, crucify your flesh with Christ and count the great cost!
Jesus mercy is patient and long, but do not test Him, and forsake all that is wrong!
Come one come all, the door is still there, don't wait till tomorrow, lest you fall into the snare!
Without repentance and faith proven by deeds, many will be lost unless they take heed!
So repent, repent, as John the Baptist made clear, but many will ignore this refusing to hear!
So listen to these words, and open your heart, the truth is near, and able to give you a brand new start!
Tommy

The reason the world doesn't take Christians seriously, is not because of Pat or anyone else for that matter. The world hates Christians for Christs sake and for his sake alone. When the world points to a "Christian" as an excuse for why they do not believe the gospel, they are simply deluding themselves. They are really looking for an excuse to not accept the condemnation of their sins.

Well the world has it right in a lot of ways. Most christians actually make me not want to be round them. They follow too many imaginary rules and ignore the few things we are told to do. Todays christians are more concerned with gay mariage(not mentioned by Christ) than helping the poor(clearly a main theme). Its caused me to turn away from being associated with most christians due to their backwards beliefs.

Let's not forget that the world is ruled by powers and principalities who's main job is to make us look stupid.Too bad we all fall for it sometimes.

And I'll give you that Christians are being persecuted and killed in other countries, but NO other culture has ever invested the time and money on infrastructure like the nazis did to persecute the Jews. They were the masters because they institutionalized it.