A Theory of Heaven and Hell

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Your profile says that you are a Christian - yet you elect to identify with being a Goat. You also know well enough that the Goat meaning biblically holds a spiritual meaning that sets it at variance with the meaning of being a Sheep. You also state that the Sheep meaning predicates to a sense of being more vulnerable to government control. In fact you make the distinction so well that it isn't realistic to expect this man at least to believe you are speaking in a simple metaphorical way. There are no ideas - there is only Christ. Are you a Christian or not?

Did you read Matthew 25:31-46.

we can read too much into what a person says. think in simpler terms. he is thinking? but not how you are thinking? each person thinks differently -- down different roads, with different ideas and and thoughts and different dna and beliefs. if we presume another means this and that by one word and another word, that could be very wrong and we would be vastly misunderstanding another.
 

Rhomphaeam

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And your point would be?...

Best wishes, 2RM
Simply that you utilise what you call metaphorical language to assert an idea - that in other threads you assert plainly. Lands End to John O Groats (1000 miles) - I would have thought that you would appreciate the metaphor.

How is Jesus a Goat?
 

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we can read too much into what a person says. think in simpler terms. he is thinking? but not how you are thinking? each person thinks differently -- down different roads, with different ideas and and thoughts and different dna and beliefs. if we presume another means this and that by one word and another word, that could be very wrong and we would be vastly misunderstanding another.
Yes we could - but I have quoted him and not presumed anything. I have asked for clarification and not given meaning. This is a Christian forum not a political forum so no apologies for refusing psychological precepts, cultural precepts and politically ambitious precepts set into a socialist framework.
 
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Simply that you utilise what you call metaphorical language to assert an idea - that in other threads you assert plainly. Lands End to John O Groats (1000 miles) - I would have thought that you would appreciate the metaphor.

How is Jesus a Goat?
Jesus chose His own way, and it was very different to that of the religious authorities of the time.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 

Rhomphaeam

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Congrats to both of you for turning this thread into a peeing contest.

Rhomphaeam wins on distance and volume, but 2ndRateMind wins on efficiency.
If you need a pee then go and have one. Your Armerican
Jesus chose His own way, and it was very different to that of the religious authorities of the time.

Best wishes, 2RM.
Jesus did NOT choose His own way. He was sent in obedience to the Father.

Is that (above quote of yours) your entire meaning?
 
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Jesus did NOT choose His own way. He was sent in obedience to the Father.

Is that (above quote of yours) your entire meaning?
Pretty much. We just seem to have differing ideas about the meaning and importance of integrity.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 

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Petty much. We just seem to have differing ideas about the meaning and importance of integrity.

Best wishes, 2RM.
You make a subtle effort - Class I for that. But you haven't really explained very much in truth. If your entire meaning to the numerous references to your own words amounts to no more than saying that Jesus chose his own way - and you have missed that Jesus was obedient to the whole Sharia'h of Torah Law - that He was rejected by Israel yet first appeared in the Temple as a child just before his 13th year - when he was marvelled at by the same temple priests and lawyers - you may have missed that Jesus did not choose His own way - but depended entirely upon the Father to lead men to Him. The parables were introduced not as metaphors but as a means of making the separation - in obedience to a prophecy of Isaiah. Beginning at the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit by the Pharisees.

Still - it is what it is. Shalom
 

Lynx

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Pretty much. We just seem to have differing ideas about the meaning and importance of integrity.

Best wishes, 2RM.
Not really.

Spinning theories is nice mental exercise, but you have a lot of theories that directly contradict a LOT of what the Bible says. And you spin these theories with the airy confidence of One Who Knows. And you blithely dismiss anybody who contradicts you by spinning MORE theories.

You're talking through your hat, which is easily done on an internet forum. Out there in real life, where the rubber meets the road, it has no practical value.