blue boomer submarine

You are twisting scripture

now the question is, are you deceived or are you deceiving?

[SUP]12 [/SUP]So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.

I'm quoting scripture, not twisting it. lover of spirits, zealous for spirits, envious of spirits, those are three different translations that to me are pretty much saying the same thing. to be zealous for something, to be a fan of football, is to love football. One envies someones life because one would love to have that life. the correct translation is spirits, not spiritual gifts, i explained that in the thread i started called 1 cor. 14.12

zealous of spiritual gifts (zhlwtai pneumatwn). Zealots for spirits. So it looked. That ye may abound (ina perisseuhte). Purpose clause with the object by prolepsis stated beforehand "for the edification of the church."




1 Corinthians 14:12 Commentary - Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament

Here we see Robertson correctly identifying pneumation as meaning spirits and not spiritual gifts.

i can produce more information but i discussed it in 1 for 14.12. my computer tries and correct my spelling all the time, it's a hassle. so when i typed in 1 cor. 14.12 it changed it to 1 for 14..12.

Methinks you've been zealous for spirits. You know, like gin and tonic.

1 Corinthians 14:12 - So, ye, also - since ye are, envious, of spirits, unto the upbuilding of the assembly, seek to be pre-eminent. (Rotherham)
1 Corinthians 14:12 - So you also, forasmuch as you are zealous of spirits, seek to abound unto the edifying of the church. douay-Rheims




1 Corinthians 14:12 - Thus ye also, since ye are desirous of spirits, seek that ye may abound for the edification of the assembly.
Darby

these three translations correctly translate the greek word pneuma as spirits. the greek word for spiritual gifts is different, it's charismata. So one should determine for oneself which is the correct translation, spirits, or spiritual gifts. my investigation showed me clearly that spirits is the correct translation.

coffee's ok though.

lol Tintin..

Can I ask if you come from a legalistic background?

"Blue boomer submarine" sounds like a trippy psychedelic drug.. AND the op claims "God made him an angel". Absolutely impossible. God does NOT turn humans into angels. :/

well if you're asking in reference to my coffee comment, i meant that fascisously. I believe all Christians are plaqued with some degree of legalism. I believe that the bible condemns the consumption of alcohol, and I understand that many others don't get that from the scriptures I and others get it from. Legalism is not being careful with the word of God. Legalism is adding laws to the word of God, or salvation by obeying the law. However, the main reason I do not drink is because God told me long ago to avoid alcohol. and I do not consider that to be legalism.

No my friend legalism is trying to justify oneself through some form of religious written code through the flesh...i.e. taste not, touch not handle not ...generally its to attempt to justify oneself through parts of the written code of the law.

Ill be honest ...anyone into legalism is very subject to be deceived by satan with the type of things you are speaking about...not trying to be mean or harsh, just telling you what I know to be true.

oooooh , i was hoping someone would want to hear of that vision I had. it's a favorite of mine, It happened about 4 years ago I suppose. I was watching the movie "Home Alone". and It was the scene where the little boy, Kevin, is in the church, and the choir is singing something like 'hear the angel voices"". Well when the choir sang that I saw God and an semitransparent blue angel coming straight at me. the angel spirit had no brain, it was just the spirit body, and God melded that blue spirit with me. and at that time God gave me a song "I"m an angel too, ooh ooh" it's sung to the tune of "I'm an indian too." anyway, let me further explain,

heb. i.7 [FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And of the [/FONT]angels[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] he saith, Who maketh his angels [/FONT]spirits, [FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]and his ministers a flame of fire.[/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the word translated [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]angels really means [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]messengers, so it really says "and of the messengers he saith, who taketh his messengers spirits.

God made me a messenger and so he made me a spirit that he melded with my body. so I"m a human and an angel.

[/FONT]Hebrews 1:7 - Even as to the messengers, indeed, he saith - Who maketh his messengers, winds, and his ministers of state, a fiery flame; (Rotherham)

Rotherham and others who translate the word messengers correctly have to incorrectly translate the greek word pneuma as something other than what it means because it doesn't fit with their theology. but pneuma means spirit not wind.
I figure God said I'm an angel cause he made me a messenger just like he did his angels, and since everyone incorrectly calls messengers angels, God decided to use the word as it is meant by people, since i am an angel too. Sonja my angel friend is my angel boss, I'm really a low ranking angel, bound by the human body I occupy. Since that 'Home Alone" encounter I"ve had numerous visions wherein I am an angel.





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So, you say you are an angel

tell me: Who do you say Jesus Christ is?

i partially agree with you. If one wants to murder someone, i suppose it is legalism that prevents him from doing it, but it is a necessary legalism. the better way is to be walking in the spirit and killing those kinds of desires of the flesh, but if one can't do that, then legalism is the necessary alternative.


Romans 8:13 - For, if according to flesh ye live, ye are about to die, whereas, if in spirit, the practices of the flesh, ye are putting to death, ye shall attain unto life;

the son of the living God.

You are delusional and deceived by satan. Please get yourself some professional psychiatric help..

Well legalism never set anyone free from hate. But the Love of God freely given through faith in Christ did.. you can't just keep parts of the written code as you please to attempt to be justifed..uou have to keep it all a cording to the perfect standard of the written code..which no man save Christ has ever done. Legalism allows satan to decieve folks because of the pride that comes with self-righteousness

I tell my doctor about my angel experiences, and the last time I saw her I told her that the only people I know of who talk like me are whacko's in mental institutions. She asked me if my angel friends ever told me to do anything wrong or hurt someone, and i told her no they don't and if they did i would fight it. She said to me then "well it's ok then as long as nothing bad comes out of it.

So I have a doctors seal of approval.

if you are referring to my abstention from alcohol, I abstain from it because alcohol consumption has zero appeal for me. There's nothing about it that is a draw on me. Initially I quit years ago because God told me to avoid it, but now it's cause it has no lure for me.

I agree that pride flows out of obeying the law.