CRA Christians in Recovery (anonymous)

"Thanks for sharing. From this side of the 'glass', I stand by the AA definition of an allergy to alcohol.
However one chooses to define an alcoholic is acceptable to the average layman. Those of us that know
for some of us, alcohol has grave consequences on our overall well being, and without help we are
unlikely to control our problem. And I consider my Higher Power, the 12 step program and my sponsor
has been, and remains instrumental in my sobriety....ODAAT."........
'Praise God'

addiction is addiction is addiction - how an individual reacts to the various addictions is individual yet
has a common thread, and this is usually 'un-Godly behaviour'...

I hear you and I consider the program, group conscience and sponsors all higher powers but not the one I pray to. The part I quoted from The Doctors Opinion was written of course before Alcoholism was accepted as a mental illness by itself. That's why it goes beyond self control. I believe true recovery is a miracle by it self also. To replace self will with Gods will is far beyond anything I could do without him.

There is of course the sin issue but then their is also the flesh that becomes so difficult to control, sort of like lust. If we have accustomed to allowing lust to guide our actions it very difficult to curb when temptations arrive. But the issue was brought up for someone that I will leave anonymous. In order to prove that all is not lost.

There are other things that can trigger a similar allergic reaction like Crack Cocaine and Meth. Alcohol is more insidious because it's much slower to become obvious and it's not considered a form of evil by most, all by itself. We used to sip fermented wine with communion before a High School football game when I was a teen!

The subject is recovery from a seemingly uncontrollable force beyond our logic and understanding. Unless we are suddenly and miraculously healed and set apart from it, it will return with a vengeance. Like the demons that the Lord warned us about.

3.) We made a commitment to turn our 'self-will' over to God's will with care and guidance of the Lord.

Romans 12:1-2 1Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship. 2Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Step 3 is where we can start to 'walk the walk.' We must figure out how we envision God to be. It's not easy but if we are about to cast all of our cares upon him with complete abandon and follow his good orderly directions we must figure out what we expect. Jesus said this In Matthew chapter 5>

Since this a Christian group on a Christian site. I don't feel the need to explain why we have taken this decidedly Christian tac. The goal is to reintegrate the 12 steps with the word of God, from which the ideas expressed and taught in the 12 steps originally came. The world is filled with agnostic and even atheist groups this is not one of them.

Can we come to believe in a kind, merciful, forgiving God that us in a time of need and help guide the way? A God that has power over sin and death. A God who's love endures forever? If so you're in the right place.

In the Sermon on the mount Jesus taught about a wise and a foolish builder. The foolish one built upon sinking sand and the wise on built his new home upon a rock. As Christians we know the Jesus is the Rock. The foolish builder couldn't withstand the storm and came crashing down. Real life is full of storms however the wise mans home stood strong and remained standing.

I'm calibob and I'm recovering from alcohol addiction and major depressive disorder. Both are mental illnesses. They became entwined together and came to rule my life at some point in time. They don't any more.

We practice most principals as other 12 step groups do especially 1 Anonymity, & 7 we are self supporting and pay for the privilege of being here. That's the commercial for the month. This meeting is open. Thank you for comming.

"Our resentments, anxieties and depressions were definitely caused, we claimed, by our unfortunate circumstances and by the inconsiderate behavior of other people. To our consternation, our sponsors didn't seem impressed ... They just grinned and said, 'Why don't we sit down and take a hard look at all of AA's Twelve Steps? Maybe you have been missing a lot -- in fact, nearly everything.'"
{ Grapevine quote for Today }

( AA Co-Founder, Bill W., July 1965, "Responsibility Is Our Theme", The Language of the Heart )

'Praise God'

The Quest
I've searched,
I've searched the avenues of life,
the pristine chapels, the Bowery flophouses.
I've searched the Halls of Justice, on both sides.
I've looked under the leaves and behind the clouds.
I've searched through the rain and pain of forgotten memories,
broken promises and shattered dreams.
I've yearned for the answers to all the questions,
some as yet unasked.

I've loved,
the earth, the sky, and all the animals,
and,
I've hated myself!

I've dreamed,
I've dreamed of dancing on moonlight and traveling to the stars.
I've dreamed of worldly delights, while searching through the bars.
I've dreamed of better worlds, with peace and tranquillity.
I've seen the cold shoulder of inhumanity,
and,
Sometimes I've found it to be mine.

I've been,
I've been in and out of jails, in and out of Hell.
I've been ostracized, penalized, deluded, denuded,
and institutionalized.

I've seen,
I've seen the deathly gray pall of time passing uselessly by.
I've seen the fire of a new dawn,
when,
Through an alcoholics' haze,
I witnessed the birth of a new life,
My own!

And now,
I have seen --GOD-- and --MYSELF--,
and,
I am FREE,
FREE to be ME

Paul Wilburn**

Paul was formerly a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford in England, came to this country to make his living in literature, got into a bottle, made it to the French Quarter, to the Camel Club, to this poem, and SOBRIETY! What a Gift!

( **from AA archives )
'Praise God'

Great share

~Thought for the Day~
"If we have had some moral, religious, or spiritual training, we're better prospects for A.A. When we reach the bottom, at this crucial moment when we're thoroughly licked, we turn instinctively to whatever decency is left in us. We call upon whatever reserves of morality and faith are left down deep in our heart.
Have we had this 'spiritual experience'?
And, what a difference this shall have on ones life."
'Praise God'

I've actually got some but lack the discipline to eat at a regular schedule. and taking all of my vitamins and meds foo is strongly recommended. But like I've said before B complex or b1, b3 and folic acid are especially helpful for energy, memory and depression. but I only take b complex on days I don't take the others. I've 10 jars of different Vitamins on the corner of my desk. lol. They keep me going to the water closet all night If I over indulge.

Oh my doctored me against Ibuprophen. After 7 years of large dosses of motrin my kidneys are damaged. I appears it was supposed to be a temporary solution. The problems are permanent. I'll try to remember more curcumin. I just put it in a more prominent place. Thanks.