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If this is true, you really are an expert on the beginning of Genesis, and others "really don't know this aspect of the Bible..."
And Ariel's "thoughts on this subject are ignorant..."
And then this...
Then how come you suddenly put on the brakes and took on "could it be" with Magenta? You are the expert. Why would you not know what is true in the beginning of Genesis?
And truthfully, I have no idea how anyone could do this much interpretation of Genesis without a lick of proof of the theories and yet still perceive yourself an expert all the while calling others ignorant.
Your also dead wrong when you say our bodies were not made to last forever. Read the first part of Genesis. You really don't know this aspect of the bible.
I find your thoughts on this subject ignorant. And worse yet, you post them like their fact.
Here is her original comment. "These bodies are not made to last forever." I simply refuted that comment. It is untrue. It is patently false. So I called her out on it, and she chose to tell me I insulted her because I stated the truth. It is dangerous for her to be posting things here that may mislead other people. She is leading them astray in this area, much as a ignorant comment, or a sinful deed by a Christian may turn someone away from the message of Christ. We have a higher calling and responsibility to be a little more careful in what we say and do, and yet she is making these statements like they are fact.
And I ask her how much has she studied the bible's nutritional comments? How many books has she read on the subject?
How many times has she tried this diet so she can say that she knows it doesn't work? How often has she fasted?
She should at least be a little humble and say, hey maybe I need to investigate this. Maybe Joseph knows a little bit about this. No shame there. No one can know everything. I know when I am not well versed in a subject I keep quiet, listen, and learn. I can always fact check it later on.
But some people here just type on in blissful ignorance stating things they have not seriously meditated on.
Our bodies were made to last forever. They won't last in this form forever, because of our sin. But they were created to last forever under the right conditions. The bible states it.
Her original statement is incorrect, just like the type 1 diabetes statement, assuming that is what she meant. She never replied on that, so I am guessing she may have been referring to that.
As far as some other people posting on this thread, whose posts I don't read, if they are putting their 2 cents in regarding nutrition and diet, if you take there advice, your going doen a broken path. They are beyond clueless about this subject. I know this because I have seen their comments on this site. They are both sick, and seeing pics of her, she is obviously overweight and on a diet that can't sustain health. In fact it is a diet of death.
The proof is always in the pudding. People who eat and live like I do, and I know plenty of them, are not sick, not on meds, are active. We run and exercise, sleep well, can do just about anything we did in our mid thirties, and have blood test numbers that show us to be at the same numbers of most people in their thirties. Many of us are in our fifties and older. One of them is a man who is soon to be 87 and is healthier then most people in their late forties onward. Just a coincidence, right?
Now look at some of the posters here in their fifties or older. They are the walking dead, yet have the audacity to pontificate about how food is not this or that, or can't do this or that.
Yes, lately I have been more blunt then usual, because you guys are Christians and are missing the mark. If you practice your spiritual life and if your understanding about the spiritual is at the same dim level as what the bible says about lifestyle and diet, some of you are in serious trouble.
This is the one group that I talk to (and I have spoken publicly to many different groups over the years) who are the ones who should get it, yet your some of the dullest recipient's to this message I have witnessed. Many atheists and tree hugger's have a keener insight to this then most of you. Your lost in this area, and when I tell you the scientific truth, when I tell you the results of this, you are either ignoring me, or think I am lying, or don't believe your eyes.
It's insane.
And then you want to say I am being to blunt or insulting.
And I ask her how much has she studied the bible's nutritional comments? How many books has she read on the subject?
How many times has she tried this diet so she can say that she knows it doesn't work? How often has she fasted?
She should at least be a little humble and say, hey maybe I need to investigate this. Maybe Joseph knows a little bit about this. No shame there. No one can know everything. I know when I am not well versed in a subject I keep quiet, listen, and learn. I can always fact check it later on.
But some people here just type on in blissful ignorance stating things they have not seriously meditated on.
Our bodies were made to last forever. They won't last in this form forever, because of our sin. But they were created to last forever under the right conditions. The bible states it.
Her original statement is incorrect, just like the type 1 diabetes statement, assuming that is what she meant. She never replied on that, so I am guessing she may have been referring to that.
As far as some other people posting on this thread, whose posts I don't read, if they are putting their 2 cents in regarding nutrition and diet, if you take there advice, your going doen a broken path. They are beyond clueless about this subject. I know this because I have seen their comments on this site. They are both sick, and seeing pics of her, she is obviously overweight and on a diet that can't sustain health. In fact it is a diet of death.
The proof is always in the pudding. People who eat and live like I do, and I know plenty of them, are not sick, not on meds, are active. We run and exercise, sleep well, can do just about anything we did in our mid thirties, and have blood test numbers that show us to be at the same numbers of most people in their thirties. Many of us are in our fifties and older. One of them is a man who is soon to be 87 and is healthier then most people in their late forties onward. Just a coincidence, right?
Now look at some of the posters here in their fifties or older. They are the walking dead, yet have the audacity to pontificate about how food is not this or that, or can't do this or that.
Yes, lately I have been more blunt then usual, because you guys are Christians and are missing the mark. If you practice your spiritual life and if your understanding about the spiritual is at the same dim level as what the bible says about lifestyle and diet, some of you are in serious trouble.
This is the one group that I talk to (and I have spoken publicly to many different groups over the years) who are the ones who should get it, yet your some of the dullest recipient's to this message I have witnessed. Many atheists and tree hugger's have a keener insight to this then most of you. Your lost in this area, and when I tell you the scientific truth, when I tell you the results of this, you are either ignoring me, or think I am lying, or don't believe your eyes.
It's insane.
And then you want to say I am being to blunt or insulting.
It is a disagreement which there is not a clear answer. Could it be that the tree of life was the earth itself as the garden was and the earths atmosphere, and oxygen levels? Could it be the tree of life was Jesus Christ Himself, and that while we were sinless He sustained us in a way we can't understand?
Obviously I believe that whatever it was, however it worked, we were created to live forever.
Why? Here is why. Please tell me why you may think my conclusions wrong. They may be, but I doubt it. But if you think so, then I am always willing to listen with a neutral ear.
Why do our cells replicate, and even scientists have concluded they the cycle of cell growth death and replacement should be endless?
Why if one part of the equation been proven, the dietary aspect of it, do we conclude that the other things God said regarding our immortal physical life's are untrue?
The element of higher oxygen levels and atmospheric pressure back then is more a less a scientific given, having been supported by experiments in hyperbaric chambers, and in green houses with them and adjusted atmosphere levels with human and plants.
There was a firmament around the earth back then. That is just a way of saying that a icy ring was around the planet. It protected from x-rays and other harmful rays from space. We not longer have that. Maybe its possible that in the perfect bodies God created us in and in the perfect living environment it was protecting us? There is a lot of scientific evidence we are being bombarded now by these x-rays.
Do you think God creates anything in imperfection? He created us to live forever in that environment.
Do you know that the earth was probably vibrating at a different frequency back then? Did you know that science has invented instruments which can level off the vibrational frequencies of our bodies organs and bring thme into better balance and this helps people operate on a daily physical level better and heal faster. Could it be the tree of life was somehow connected to that?
There are many people who can extraordinary physical feats, impossible for most of us. Is it possible we are but a physical (and mental) shadow of what we once were
Obviously I believe that whatever it was, however it worked, we were created to live forever.
Why? Here is why. Please tell me why you may think my conclusions wrong. They may be, but I doubt it. But if you think so, then I am always willing to listen with a neutral ear.
Why do our cells replicate, and even scientists have concluded they the cycle of cell growth death and replacement should be endless?
Why if one part of the equation been proven, the dietary aspect of it, do we conclude that the other things God said regarding our immortal physical life's are untrue?
The element of higher oxygen levels and atmospheric pressure back then is more a less a scientific given, having been supported by experiments in hyperbaric chambers, and in green houses with them and adjusted atmosphere levels with human and plants.
There was a firmament around the earth back then. That is just a way of saying that a icy ring was around the planet. It protected from x-rays and other harmful rays from space. We not longer have that. Maybe its possible that in the perfect bodies God created us in and in the perfect living environment it was protecting us? There is a lot of scientific evidence we are being bombarded now by these x-rays.
Do you think God creates anything in imperfection? He created us to live forever in that environment.
Do you know that the earth was probably vibrating at a different frequency back then? Did you know that science has invented instruments which can level off the vibrational frequencies of our bodies organs and bring thme into better balance and this helps people operate on a daily physical level better and heal faster. Could it be the tree of life was somehow connected to that?
There are many people who can extraordinary physical feats, impossible for most of us. Is it possible we are but a physical (and mental) shadow of what we once were