Do you think Pope Francis is the false prophet

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jimmydiggs

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No.

The false prophet will be a Republican Politician in the United States. Probably the next president. He will be very anti-homosexual and anti-abortion. All the right wing Christians will love him.
Actually, the anti-christ will probably be an australian. He'll love koalas, barbeque every day, eat large quantities of seafood, and probably have a funny Australian accent. He'll be riding a kangaroo. I'm most certain he'll be wearing a southern cross flag for pants, and his arms will be boomarangs. He'll play a didgeredoo in the Sydney Opera House, and probably listen to AC/DC and the Bee Gees. Steve Irwin will be has hand picked resurrected zombie assistant, and Irwin will be riding an unfleeced sheep that will flap it's stingray wings and fly in the night sky.


 
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All this talk of anti-Christ and false prophets, judgments and labeling, is taking our eyes off Christ and scripture. If we label everything the Catholic Church teaches as false, we would be labeling Christ false, for they also teach Christ. If we label their teaching of having statues of Christ in their Church wrong, we would be correct because scripture says it is wrong. We can label some of their priests immoral and not of Christ, for their immorality can be proven. But to label all people who go to that church not Christian is going too far. My neighbor is a Catholic ex nun, I have never found anything unchristian about her, and her good works are so great the entire neighborhood is helped by her work for us.
 
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Actually, the anti-christ will probably be an australian.
If they make a 'good' movie, the actor will be Australian :p

We don't have the anti-Christ in charge down here, just someone very very very close friends with Satan at the moment. A good Catholic Boy too, so a lot of you would hate him just for that.
 
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............seriously?..............so you know more than Jesus? And, apparently you don't believe Jesus/God is against the homosexual lifestyle, and is perfectly happy with the abortion mills operating in this world?

Goodness...........
Nope. Never said that.

I don't condone Abortion.
I don't condone Homosexuality.

I just don't want Big Government regulating my sins.

I know you love big Government "Russian Style', but I'll pass. I prefer Liberty and freedom.
 
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phillip1980

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How long is an HOUR?? 60 minutes?? 3,600 seconds?? Of course we cannot know to the hour when the Lord will return.

You seem to be implying we aren't supposed to even know the season, like Christ doesn't want us paying attention to world events and prophesy. I hear so many Christians make this argument - that we shouldn't be trying to figure out if we are in the end times or that the AntiChrist is near or the identity. This is hogwash!!!

We are absolutely supposed to be watching. Revelation is written specifically to warn us of things to come.

Jesus commands us in Mat 24:

[SUP]32 [/SUP]Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

[SUP]33 [/SUP]So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


If Jesus commands us to learn something, we had better learn it. Jesus also commands us to watch in Mat 25:

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Paul gives the same command in 1 Thes 5:

[SUP]2 [/SUP]For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

PlainWord thank you for writing about this issue with clarity and scripture.

Yes he does want us to know the season and this is it.
 
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phillip1980

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And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth: and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

The second beast coming after the first is the false prophet coming after the antichrist. It says he has two horn. There are currently two Popes. That has never happened before. The first pope retired but kept his title.
 

PlainWord

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And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth: and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

The second beast coming after the first is the false prophet coming after the antichrist. It says he has two horn. There are currently two Popes. That has never happened before. The first pope retired but kept his title.
Just a point of clarification.

The First Beast I believe is the Roman Catholic Church. The Pope is the mouth the first beast was given. I believe this is Francis:

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


[SUP]6 [/SUP]And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.


The Second Beast I believe is the G7 which became the G8 and is now the G7 again.

The Group of Eight (G8) was the name of a forum for the governments of a group of eight leading industrialised countries, that was originally formed by six leading industrialised countries and subsequently extended with two additional members.[SUP] [/SUP]Russia, which was invited to join as the last member, was excluded from the forum by the other members on March 24, 2014 as a result of its involvement in the 2014 Crimea crisis in Ukraine.[SUP][/SUP] Thus the group now comprises seven nations and will continue to meet as the G7 group of nations.

The G7, or G-7, is a group consisting of the finance ministers and central bank governors of seven advanced economies : Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States meeting to discuss primarily economic issues. The European Union is also represented within the G7. The G7 are the seven wealthiest major developed nations on Earth by national net wealth, representing more than 63% of the net global wealth ($241 trillions) according to the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report October 2013.

We see that 7-8 countries control 63% or nearly 2/3 of the World's wealth and economy. By extension, they control 2/3 of the Geo-Political system. The AntiChrist will need to take control of this group of nations to achieve a One World Government.
 

jb

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Do you think Pope Francis is the false prophet? He is 76 years old and if so, that means Jesus will likely return in the next 20 years at most since he will be 96 by then. Are we knocking on the door of the tribulation?
What utter nonsense!

If you (and those who are like thinking) left aside your sectarian bigotry you might begin to see light in regards to end-time prophecy!
 

PlainWord

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After Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation, those familiar with a 12th-century prophecy claiming the next pope will be the last questioned if Judgment Day is quickly approaching. Scholars, theologians and churchmen, however, all treat this "prediction" as fiction passed off as reality.
The "Prophecy of the Popes" is attributed to St. Malachy, an Irish archbishop who was canonized a saint in 1190, according to Discovery News. In his predication, dated 1139, Malachy prophesied that there would be 112 more popes before Judgment Day. Benedict is supposedly the 111th pope.
The foretelling offers brief descriptions about each pope, and some of them appear to align with reality in some way. For example, Benedict is apparently denoted as the "glory of the olive," and the Olivetans are affiliated with Benedictine Order, NBC News notes.
Curiously, the "Prophecy of Popes" stops at the 112th pope and ends with a cryptic warning of doomsday.
In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit ... Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations: and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible judge will judge his people. The End.​
Following Benedict's resignation, theorists began questioning if Malachy might actually be right.
However, although Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana might bear the same name as the person mentioned in the prophecy, there are no Roman-born cardinals in the running to be Benedict's successor.
"There are no Pietros among the living cardinals; two Pierres (as second name): Nasrallah Pierre Sfeir and Jean-Pierre Ricard; and one Pedro: Rubiano Sáenz," according to librarian Salvador Miranda, creator and producer of the website The Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church.
Like any good conspiracy theory, there are many holes in the lore of St. Malachy, according to Father James Weiss, a professor of church history at Boston College.
First of all, there is no original manuscript of the prediction. Malachy's vision was allegedly discovered and published by Benedictine Arnold de Wyon in 1590. Prior to that date, there is no mention or record of it, Weiss told The Huffington Post.
Reputable church historians and clerics have considered it a forgery since the 18th century.
"Between the summer of 1590 and the fall of 1592, there were four popes [elected during] a period of rapid turnover," Weiss said during a phone conversation with HuffPost on Wednesday. "It was also a point at which there was intense rivalry between France and Spain to control the papacy for their own political reasons."
The prophecies surfaced after the first of the newly elected popes died. "It is widely thought, also given who the author was and his relationship, [that the prophecies] were published to establish the case for election of one particular cardinal," he added.
 

PlainWord

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In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremêdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis. (In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed [in accordance with Revelation 18:4-20], and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)

On March 13, 2013, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of the Jewish Society of Jesus, former right hand man to Jesuit Superiors General Pedro Arrupe and Peter-Hans Kolvenbach was named Pope Francis I after St. Francis of Assisi whose full name was Francesco di Pietro (Peter) di Bernardone, an Italian who was once a beggar in Rome, effectively making Bergoglio "Peter the Roman." Francis I is the first Jesuit and the first from the Americas to be elected Pope. He is the first non-European pope since Syrian-born Pope Gregory III, who served for ten years (731–741). Francis I is well-qualified to be pope of the cloven hoof, fulfilling Revelation 17:11; 13:3-10 and I Thessalonians 5:3 and the final prophecy of St. Malachy. If this be so he will also fulfill Brother Branham's prophesy of the final pope after the brief 'hot stage' of World War III: "I believe, one of these glorious days, when this united confederation of church goes together, and the new pope is brought out of the United States and put over there [in Jerusalem] according to prophecy [Daniel 7:25-25; 8:23-25; 9:27; 11:32-35; Revelation 13], then they'll form an image like unto the beast [the United States and Rome's (once) Protestant daughter churches]" (Acts of the Holy Spirit, p. 12:87).

According to Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13 and 17:10-18, Satan will incarnate the last pontiff who will deify himself and break Rome's covenant with the Jewish banksters. It is claimed Malachy made only 111 predictions and that the Benedictines devised pope 112 in order to dissociate their order from the "Beast" so that John Paul II's successor should be the final pope. However "Gloria olivae" resides still in Rome as Pope Emeritus, His Holiness (sic) Benedict XVI, and it appears Malachy's prophecy of popes 111 and 112 are intended to be conjoined in accordance with the two popes mentioned in Revelation 19:20, and 20:10. This scripture is reinforced by the fact Pope Benedict was the first pope to receive the Ring of St. Peter after it was re-instated by John Paul II who did not wear the ring, and contrary to custom Pope Benedict XVI did not destroy his ring but "disabled the seal" and now wears the ring contemporaneously with Pope Francis I, enjoining both to St. Peter—something that has never happened in the history of the false church, but fulfilling Jesus' prophecy!
 

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In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

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Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.
“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”
Robert Mickens, the Vatican correspondent for the Catholic journal The Tablet, said the pontiff’s comments were further evidence of his attempts to shake off the Catholic Church’s fusty image, reinforced by his extremely conservative predecessor Benedict XVI. “Francis is a still a conservative,” said Mr Mickens. “But what this is all about is him seeking to have a more meaningful dialogue with the world.”
In a welcoming response to the letter, Mr Scalfari said the Pope’s comments were “further evidence of his ability and desire to overcome barriers in dialogue with all”.
In July, Francis signalled a more progressive attitude on sexuality, asking: “If someone is gay and is looking for the Lord, who am I to judge him?”



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