For those (like me) who find their love in this world...
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this is not true - god doesn't want us to be sick. Sickness is from the devil, by Jesus Stripes we are healed. Prosperity means to be successful in all things, God does not want us to fail in our lives, relationships etc. you need to have a look into the scriptures further this teaching does not line up.
Do you know of the story of Job????
All God wants is for us to know Him, love Him, and cherish Him.... For us to find our strength in Him alone... I am sorry but you are lost by the words you say... You are going to say I am filled with anger... That I should love another just as I love myself or Christ... But the Christ I know slapped me awake from my sins... The Tony Laurich I am, cares more about gaining Christ then what type of feeling I have, or possession I own (most of the time)...
I am sorry but I pray that God gives me humility and not pride... Even though pride tastes like honey and humility is bitter like medicine... I would rather Live then die...
I pray that God takes away my wealth because through wealth comes some serious temptations of false security... In wealth we think we are safe... We think with this much life insurance, this much home insurance, this much medical care, this nice of neighborhood, and this nice of community... That we will be happy and safe.... WRONG
We are idolizing wealth... And we will die of this world just like our god mammon will... I pray God kicks the heck out of my heart... And its the scariest thought I have is thinking I want God to hurt my heart, to shatter it in a million pieces with a sledge hammer... But I would rather die a broken man, sick, poor, starving, and alone... And GAIN CHRIST, then too have happiness and loose Christ...
I know you will say that you can have wealth and still get into heaven... Hence Romans 3:28.... But I ask of you... What is your God, before you say Romans 3:28 applies to your salvation....
All God wants is for us to know Him, love Him, and cherish Him.... For us to find our strength in Him alone... I am sorry but you are lost by the words you say... You are going to say I am filled with anger... That I should love another just as I love myself or Christ... But the Christ I know slapped me awake from my sins... The Tony Laurich I am, cares more about gaining Christ then what type of feeling I have, or possession I own (most of the time)...
I am sorry but I pray that God gives me humility and not pride... Even though pride tastes like honey and humility is bitter like medicine... I would rather Live then die...
I pray that God takes away my wealth because through wealth comes some serious temptations of false security... In wealth we think we are safe... We think with this much life insurance, this much home insurance, this much medical care, this nice of neighborhood, and this nice of community... That we will be happy and safe.... WRONG
We are idolizing wealth... And we will die of this world just like our god mammon will... I pray God kicks the heck out of my heart... And its the scariest thought I have is thinking I want God to hurt my heart, to shatter it in a million pieces with a sledge hammer... But I would rather die a broken man, sick, poor, starving, and alone... And GAIN CHRIST, then too have happiness and loose Christ...
I know you will say that you can have wealth and still get into heaven... Hence Romans 3:28.... But I ask of you... What is your God, before you say Romans 3:28 applies to your salvation....
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You say God does not want us to fail in our lives... I ask you to read the books of John, Luke, Mark, and Matthew and read about what Christ told each of the Apostles before they accepted Him...
I can tell you, Christ was not saying that they were going to have a perfect life, nor a happy life, he also did not tell them that they would prosper in the world... Spoiler Alert: Christ told them that they would leave their families... The world would hate them, that they would be beaten, torn down, degraded, and that they would have to pick up their cross (or in modern words pick up their electric chair) and follow Him... But He said that they could gain Him, Jesus Christ...
I can tell you, Christ was not saying that they were going to have a perfect life, nor a happy life, he also did not tell them that they would prosper in the world... Spoiler Alert: Christ told them that they would leave their families... The world would hate them, that they would be beaten, torn down, degraded, and that they would have to pick up their cross (or in modern words pick up their electric chair) and follow Him... But He said that they could gain Him, Jesus Christ...
Proverbs 30:7-9
7 “Two things I ask of you, Lord;
do not refuse me before I die:
8 Keep falsehood and lies far from me;
give me neither poverty nor riches,
but give me only my daily bread.
9 Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you
and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’
Or I may become poor and steal,
and so dishonor the name of my God.
7 “Two things I ask of you, Lord;
do not refuse me before I die:
8 Keep falsehood and lies far from me;
give me neither poverty nor riches,
but give me only my daily bread.
9 Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you
and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’
Or I may become poor and steal,
and so dishonor the name of my God.
E
This is just begging for arguments.
I don't know what to think and if I write a bunch of theology about it I'm gonna be straight out wrong off the bat. I'll say that I know Christ came so that I may have life and have it abundantly, but I believe that life in him is better and easier than any life I'm doing on my own. I don't think God wants me to struggle, I know He wants to bless me.
Galatians 3:14
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Go through Genesis and see all the times that God blessed Abraham. This doesn't have to mean a flash car, this doesn't mean we don't go through pain and loss. But as Piper said, He is our salvation and glory. The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
The truth is; I don't know. But coming from the guy who's mum just died of cancer and has no-one else. God took away my pain the night she died, and has met every single one of my needs up until this point. I made a choice not to brush that off as coincidence.
I don't know what to think and if I write a bunch of theology about it I'm gonna be straight out wrong off the bat. I'll say that I know Christ came so that I may have life and have it abundantly, but I believe that life in him is better and easier than any life I'm doing on my own. I don't think God wants me to struggle, I know He wants to bless me.
Galatians 3:14
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Go through Genesis and see all the times that God blessed Abraham. This doesn't have to mean a flash car, this doesn't mean we don't go through pain and loss. But as Piper said, He is our salvation and glory. The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
The truth is; I don't know. But coming from the guy who's mum just died of cancer and has no-one else. God took away my pain the night she died, and has met every single one of my needs up until this point. I made a choice not to brush that off as coincidence.
Who here knows what paths God has created for each of His children?
Sime may end up stinking rich and blessing and influencing the world whilst keeping their faith in God while others can end up in the dirt picking up orphans as they go on...These two polar opposites are real life examples. Irwin Miller, ex CEO of Cummins throughout the 20th century maintained his faith through success and ended being an exceedingly wise man in business, civil rights and architecture, his God given wisdom was well before his time. The there's Heidi Baker God has commissioned her to the slums Mozambique to pick up every suck and orphaned child in the dirt. Can please put down our ideals and live out what God has for us, whether that be for richer or poorer!
Sime may end up stinking rich and blessing and influencing the world whilst keeping their faith in God while others can end up in the dirt picking up orphans as they go on...These two polar opposites are real life examples. Irwin Miller, ex CEO of Cummins throughout the 20th century maintained his faith through success and ended being an exceedingly wise man in business, civil rights and architecture, his God given wisdom was well before his time. The there's Heidi Baker God has commissioned her to the slums Mozambique to pick up every suck and orphaned child in the dirt. Can please put down our ideals and live out what God has for us, whether that be for richer or poorer!