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Jesus said there was diffrent degrees of suffering in the Lake of Fire. Each sin has its consequence. A sin is a sin. All I am saying is would it not be better for a child to live with the guidence of a male and female. Than two homsexuals. I am not saying that my sins or greater or lesser than theirs but a lie is one thing and homsexuallity is another. There is a big diffrence - alie will give u a consience and homosexuality will give u STD.
Stop wandering of the subject onto other peoples sins...this topic is on Gay Marrige.
Stop wandering of the subject onto other peoples sins...this topic is on Gay Marrige.
W
I can't see I'm off topic in saying being gay doesn't have to be worse than what we can do. You said you wouldn't want your children to live in a husehold full of sin... sin is general, not only living gay...
"He who says to his brother 'you fool' shall be condemned to the fires of hell" . Don't know about you, but I know I've said that. Which condems me to hell (yes, the blood of Christ saves me, and it also saves gay people,...)
"He who says to his brother 'you fool' shall be condemned to the fires of hell" . Don't know about you, but I know I've said that. Which condems me to hell (yes, the blood of Christ saves me, and it also saves gay people,...)
I don't know if u missread or if u were scanning but what isaid was I would hate it if <b>my parents</b> were to die and if <b>i</b> was put into a house with homsexuals. Im not sure if u noticed but I am only 14 and I do not have any children - just to correct u 
There is diffrent degrees to how bad a sin is, and i know everything is forgivable - with the exception to blasphamey against the Holy Spirit.
All I am saying is that I would find it increasingly hard to live with homosexuals who are not repenting. Even if they did repent and kept being gay , this is not true repentance.
There is diffrent degrees to how bad a sin is, and i know everything is forgivable - with the exception to blasphamey against the Holy Spirit.
All I am saying is that I would find it increasingly hard to live with homosexuals who are not repenting. Even if they did repent and kept being gay , this is not true repentance.
S
I would not associate with homosexuals and neither would my husband. In fact, where he works there is one, but he avoids communication with the person. We would not want our daughter around people like that because we would not want her to think it is okay when it is not okay. Homosexuality is a sin because God created man and woman to be together.
S
Hello Zalen, thank you for your response, I hope that I am able to address each of your points completely, and I maintain the hope that you will one day receive Christ Jesus as your Savior.
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I think it is ridiculous to think that a gay lifestyle leads to more sexual predation. I have provided a link to another universtiy website concerning pedophiles and homosexuality that refutes your claims: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html
This was not in my statement. At no time did I suggest that homosexuality leads to predatory behavior. My comments were;
Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
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As for the 1995 statement made in guide, although shocking, it meant to say that children should be allowed to discover their own sexuality in a safe environment, not have sex. Perhaps it is an idealized and biased argument, but it does not have any intention for advocating sexual relationships with and amongst children.
Original quote from my own statement
In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. …" The article went on to say: "Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality … we must do it for the children's sake
Creating an environment, solely for children to express themselves sexually with whomever they choose, is not merely perverse in itself, but lends to suspicions of devisiveness on the part of this so-called movement, and may represent skillful indoctrination techniques.
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Civil unions:
I don't know what everyone's personal definition of a civil union is, but I define it to be: A secular and legally recognized relationship between two consenting partners that affords the same benefits (hospital visits, tax breaks, the power to make medical decisions for etc.) as a married couple. This couple would not however be recognized by any organization as married, but it still carries the same legal weight.
My friend, this is not about civil unions. These civil unions, while they will succeed in their efforts, are only a symptom of the moral decline of our nation, which will soon herald the coming of Christ, but only after further decline occurs. I concede that these unions will occur on a large scale, I can almost envision the withering spines of our state leaders as they imitate squirrels in the middle of a busy highway.
I will not be among the flag waving protestors on the White House lawn shouting in disapproval, because I am aware that these are symptoms of the spiritual blindness of the masses. But, I am also not naive enough to think that by protecting homosexual perverseness, and the dishonoring of marriage, that I am somehow protecting my own rights.
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The constitution has been interpreted to have very strict rules when it comes to preservation of speech
When the goverment wishes to encroach upon the so-called rights or constitutional freedoms of christian citizens, I can assure you, they will find a way to achieve it. Key proponents of homosexual perverseness, as well as abortion supporters, and anti-christian activists, will always find a way to slither into the white house, using their political wiles, in service to their most generous constituents, to adversely alter the course of a nation which has already lost its moral compass.
Religion has already been negatively affected by the perverseness associated with homosexuality, in ways that some have not considered.
Quote from your statement
I think it is ridiculous to think that a gay lifestyle leads to more sexual predation. I have provided a link to another universtiy website concerning pedophiles and homosexuality that refutes your claims: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbo...lestation.html
This was not in my statement. At no time did I suggest that homosexuality leads to predatory behavior. My comments were;
Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
Quote from your statement
As for the 1995 statement made in guide, although shocking, it meant to say that children should be allowed to discover their own sexuality in a safe environment, not have sex. Perhaps it is an idealized and biased argument, but it does not have any intention for advocating sexual relationships with and amongst children.
Original quote from my own statement
In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. …" The article went on to say: "Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality … we must do it for the children's sake
Creating an environment, solely for children to express themselves sexually with whomever they choose, is not merely perverse in itself, but lends to suspicions of devisiveness on the part of this so-called movement, and may represent skillful indoctrination techniques.
Quote from your statement
Civil unions:
I don't know what everyone's personal definition of a civil union is, but I define it to be: A secular and legally recognized relationship between two consenting partners that affords the same benefits (hospital visits, tax breaks, the power to make medical decisions for etc.) as a married couple. This couple would not however be recognized by any organization as married, but it still carries the same legal weight.
My friend, this is not about civil unions. These civil unions, while they will succeed in their efforts, are only a symptom of the moral decline of our nation, which will soon herald the coming of Christ, but only after further decline occurs. I concede that these unions will occur on a large scale, I can almost envision the withering spines of our state leaders as they imitate squirrels in the middle of a busy highway.
I will not be among the flag waving protestors on the White House lawn shouting in disapproval, because I am aware that these are symptoms of the spiritual blindness of the masses. But, I am also not naive enough to think that by protecting homosexual perverseness, and the dishonoring of marriage, that I am somehow protecting my own rights.
Quote from your statement
The constitution has been interpreted to have very strict rules when it comes to preservation of speech
When the goverment wishes to encroach upon the so-called rights or constitutional freedoms of christian citizens, I can assure you, they will find a way to achieve it. Key proponents of homosexual perverseness, as well as abortion supporters, and anti-christian activists, will always find a way to slither into the white house, using their political wiles, in service to their most generous constituents, to adversely alter the course of a nation which has already lost its moral compass.
Religion has already been negatively affected by the perverseness associated with homosexuality, in ways that some have not considered.
S
Homosexuality and expressions of homosexuality have already influenced areas of American and European culture which is worthy of close examination. Not only was homosexuality overlooked for many years in the Catholic church, but concealing it has become somewhat standard practice. From the molestation of alter boys, to the ordination of homosexual priests, (I can’t believe I just typed homosexual Priest), this term should be banned from the English language.
Homoerotic, artistic expressions depicting nude works created by one of the most well known artists of the 14th century, now adorn some of the most unlikely places. The argument that the perverseness of homosexuality has not infiltrated, or does not affect, religious culture/religious institutions is quite simply, false. Anyone with a reasonably well stocked library or internet access, can easily discover how artists during the renaissance period used their creative license , ‘Licenses given by the Pope’, to express, not only their artistic ability, but their passion for the same sex.
Michelangelo, (creator of the Sistine chapel artwork of between 1508 and 1512, and a nude statue of King David in 1504), had an affinity for young men , and openly expressed his passions and his affections for youthful male bodies, through his art and sensual poetry, one such poem is a matter of documented history, in which Michelangelo mourns the passing of his boyfriend.
The poem was written to Tommaso dei Cavelieri. The relationship began when Michelangelo was 57 and the young man was 23 .
The flesh now earth, and here my bones,
Bereft of handsome eyes, and jaunty air,
Still loyal are to him I joyed in bed,
Whom I embraced, in whom my soul now lives
The logical question would, or perhaps, should be, ‘Why was the Catholic/Christian church, which is filled with bible scholars, soliciting the assistance of known homosexuals to plaster the interior of a place of worship, with homoerotic art?? I won’t burden you with trying to answer that one. I am simply using this as a clear example of how the influences of the perverseness of homosexuality has cleverly crept it’s way into many aspects of society. The Arts and Religion are just a couple. Instead of being appalled and disgusted, we applaud the works and admire them as though God himself had sanctioned these creations.
Without the help of a loving Savior and the power of the Holy Spirit, it is nearly impossible to escape the bondage of perverseness associated with homosexuality. We are human, and as human beings, (not animals or plants), we express our passions. The sin that is in the heart/life will always find a way to express itself in ones life. It is impossible to practice homosexuality as a lifestyle without impacting on culture, education, religion and many other aspects of society. The homosexual/lesbian agenda is no longer veiled, nor are their fingerprints left on society, hidden.
Matthew 11:28 Jesus said”
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. ...
Homoerotic, artistic expressions depicting nude works created by one of the most well known artists of the 14th century, now adorn some of the most unlikely places. The argument that the perverseness of homosexuality has not infiltrated, or does not affect, religious culture/religious institutions is quite simply, false. Anyone with a reasonably well stocked library or internet access, can easily discover how artists during the renaissance period used their creative license , ‘Licenses given by the Pope’, to express, not only their artistic ability, but their passion for the same sex.
Michelangelo, (creator of the Sistine chapel artwork of between 1508 and 1512, and a nude statue of King David in 1504), had an affinity for young men , and openly expressed his passions and his affections for youthful male bodies, through his art and sensual poetry, one such poem is a matter of documented history, in which Michelangelo mourns the passing of his boyfriend.
The poem was written to Tommaso dei Cavelieri. The relationship began when Michelangelo was 57 and the young man was 23 .
The flesh now earth, and here my bones,
Bereft of handsome eyes, and jaunty air,
Still loyal are to him I joyed in bed,
Whom I embraced, in whom my soul now lives
The logical question would, or perhaps, should be, ‘Why was the Catholic/Christian church, which is filled with bible scholars, soliciting the assistance of known homosexuals to plaster the interior of a place of worship, with homoerotic art?? I won’t burden you with trying to answer that one. I am simply using this as a clear example of how the influences of the perverseness of homosexuality has cleverly crept it’s way into many aspects of society. The Arts and Religion are just a couple. Instead of being appalled and disgusted, we applaud the works and admire them as though God himself had sanctioned these creations.
Without the help of a loving Savior and the power of the Holy Spirit, it is nearly impossible to escape the bondage of perverseness associated with homosexuality. We are human, and as human beings, (not animals or plants), we express our passions. The sin that is in the heart/life will always find a way to express itself in ones life. It is impossible to practice homosexuality as a lifestyle without impacting on culture, education, religion and many other aspects of society. The homosexual/lesbian agenda is no longer veiled, nor are their fingerprints left on society, hidden.
Matthew 11:28 Jesus said”
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. ...
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Hey Zalen, I'm not a Christian and I support gay marriage. I know that might not mean much to anyone here, but I'm not here for religion. I'm here to get my voice out about Gay Marriage, so here's a video that I made about what I think about the subject of Gay Marriage: GAY MARRIAGE?! - YouTube
All of you on the fence think about this. It is obvious that everyone knows that God believes Gay sex is a sin.So Christians won't have Gay sex. We all also know that same sex attraction might not be helped. But they can help having Gay Sex, just like someone can help having premarital sex.
Jesus believed that marriage is something sacred. It is a sacrament in the Catholic Church, because the early Church believed it to be a sacrament. Something that is Holy in God's eyes should not be desecrated. Future will be bleak.
Jesus believed that marriage is something sacred. It is a sacrament in the Catholic Church, because the early Church believed it to be a sacrament. Something that is Holy in God's eyes should not be desecrated. Future will be bleak.
S
What do you think about gay marriage?
...Abomination#
What do you think about civil unions between homosexuals that carries all the perks of marriage, except for the word "Married"
...Gays are after our children#
What do you think about homosexuality? Is it a choice? Are homosexuals ****ed? Can someone be "cured" of homosexuality?
...Indeed.It is a choice#
Does anyone think that the defense of marriage act is constitutional? Please keep in mind the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution.
...It is an abomination. Not constitutional.#
Should government have any control over marriage? As of right now it is left to the states. This is where "full faith and credit" applies.
...No. It is God's union of one man and one woman. It's a Christian thing.
...Abomination#
What do you think about civil unions between homosexuals that carries all the perks of marriage, except for the word "Married"
...Gays are after our children#
What do you think about homosexuality? Is it a choice? Are homosexuals ****ed? Can someone be "cured" of homosexuality?
...Indeed.It is a choice#
Does anyone think that the defense of marriage act is constitutional? Please keep in mind the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution.
...It is an abomination. Not constitutional.#
Should government have any control over marriage? As of right now it is left to the states. This is where "full faith and credit" applies.
...No. It is God's union of one man and one woman. It's a Christian thing.
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What you think is ridiculous is, in fact, the truth. What you're seeing at that website is a shell game of political correctness. They've weeded out homosexual pedophiles as distinct groups and then crunched the numbers so they can make the assertion that homosexuals aren't committing crimes against children at a higher rate per capita when in reality they are.
The available data does show that homosexuals are involved in sexual crimes against children at a far greater rate per population than heterosexuals.
A number of major sexuality surveys have indexed criminality. They include the original 1948 Kinsey survey, the 1973 Saghir & Robins report, ongoing longitudinal studies, the U.S. National Surveys, Lexis-Nexis Academic Universe search studies, etc... and a wide range of studies conducted by government organs, universities, researchers in sociology and psychology, survey organizations, and a variety of religious and non-religious private organizations interested in the subject.
The preponderance of the evidence is clear. They show that homosexuals PER CAPITA are more promiscuous, commit more crime in general, and engage in child molestation and pedophilia far more commonly than heterosexuals on a per capita basis.
A.P. Bell and M.S. Weinberg, in their classic study of male and female homosexuality, found that (over the course of their lives) 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having 1,000 or more sex partners." A. P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), pp. 308, 9; see alsoBell, Weinberg and Hammersmith, Sexual Preference (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1981).
In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al., found that only 2.7 percent claimed to have had sex with one partner only. The most common response, given by 21.6 percent of the respondents, was of having a hundred-one to five hundred lifetime sex partners." Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354. Dr. Paul Van de Ven reiterated these results in a private conversation with Dr. Robert Gagnon on September 7, 2000.
"A survey conducted by the homosexual magazine Genre found that 24 percent of the respondents said they had had more than a hundred sexual partners in their lifetime. The magazine noted that several respondents suggested including a category of those who had more than a thousand sexual partners." Survey Finds 40 percent of Gay Men Have Had More Than 40 Sex Partners," Lambda Report, January/February 1998, p. 20..
"In his study of male homosexuality in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, M. Pollak found that 'few homosexual relationships last longer than two years, with many men reporting hundreds of lifetime partners.'" M. Pollak, "Male Homosexuality," in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, edited by P. Aries and A. Bejin, pp. 40-61, cited by Joseph Nicolosi in Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality (Northvale, New Jersey: Jason Aronson Inc., 1991), pp. 124, 25..
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The promiscuity is beyond the pale and about half of gay marriages are open for this reason. Not a great environment to raise children in.
A study of pedophiles in Behavior Research and Therapy concluded: "The second, and perhaps the most important observation we made, is that a homosexual and a heterosexual subgroup can be delineated among these offenders. Categorizing them in this way revealed important differences in the pattern of their sexual preferences [homosexual offenders were higher per capita]." W. L. Marshall, et al., "Sexual Offenders against Male Children: Sexual Preferences," Behavior Research and Therapy 26 (March 1988): 390.
The Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy published a study on the same topic, which discussed "the proportional prevalences of heterosexual and homosexual pedophilia." The study commented on a study that found that "the percentage of the homosexual pedophiles would be 45.8." Even adjusted downward for exhibitionists, "this would still indicate a much higher percentage (34 percent) of homosexuals among pedophiles than among men who prefer physically mature partners." Freund, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," 194, 197.
A study on pedophilia in the Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa reported: "According to the literature, findings of a two-to-one ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles have been documented." John M. W. Bradford, et al., "The Heterogeneity/Homogeneity of Pedophilia," Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa 13 (1988): 225. Elsewhere the study notes: "Researchers have variously estimated the incidence of homosexual pedophilia between 19 percent and 33 percent of reported molestations," 218.
The Journal of Sex Research reports a study that included "199 offenders against female children and 96 offenders against male children.…This would indicate a proportional prevalence of 32 percent of homosexual offenders against children." Freund, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,"
A study of male child sex offenders in Child Abuse and Neglect found that fourteen percent targeted only males, and a further 28 percent chose males as well as females as victims, thus indicating that 42 percent of male pedophiles engaged in homosexual molestation. Michele Elliott, "Child Sexual Abuse Prevention: What Offenders Tell Us," Child Abuse and Neglect 19 (1995): 581.
Etc...
The available data does show that homosexuals are involved in sexual crimes against children at a far greater rate per population than heterosexuals.
A number of major sexuality surveys have indexed criminality. They include the original 1948 Kinsey survey, the 1973 Saghir & Robins report, ongoing longitudinal studies, the U.S. National Surveys, Lexis-Nexis Academic Universe search studies, etc... and a wide range of studies conducted by government organs, universities, researchers in sociology and psychology, survey organizations, and a variety of religious and non-religious private organizations interested in the subject.
The preponderance of the evidence is clear. They show that homosexuals PER CAPITA are more promiscuous, commit more crime in general, and engage in child molestation and pedophilia far more commonly than heterosexuals on a per capita basis.
A.P. Bell and M.S. Weinberg, in their classic study of male and female homosexuality, found that (over the course of their lives) 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having 1,000 or more sex partners." A. P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), pp. 308, 9; see alsoBell, Weinberg and Hammersmith, Sexual Preference (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1981).
In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al., found that only 2.7 percent claimed to have had sex with one partner only. The most common response, given by 21.6 percent of the respondents, was of having a hundred-one to five hundred lifetime sex partners." Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354. Dr. Paul Van de Ven reiterated these results in a private conversation with Dr. Robert Gagnon on September 7, 2000.
"A survey conducted by the homosexual magazine Genre found that 24 percent of the respondents said they had had more than a hundred sexual partners in their lifetime. The magazine noted that several respondents suggested including a category of those who had more than a thousand sexual partners." Survey Finds 40 percent of Gay Men Have Had More Than 40 Sex Partners," Lambda Report, January/February 1998, p. 20..
"In his study of male homosexuality in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, M. Pollak found that 'few homosexual relationships last longer than two years, with many men reporting hundreds of lifetime partners.'" M. Pollak, "Male Homosexuality," in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, edited by P. Aries and A. Bejin, pp. 40-61, cited by Joseph Nicolosi in Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality (Northvale, New Jersey: Jason Aronson Inc., 1991), pp. 124, 25..
Etc...
The promiscuity is beyond the pale and about half of gay marriages are open for this reason. Not a great environment to raise children in.
A study of pedophiles in Behavior Research and Therapy concluded: "The second, and perhaps the most important observation we made, is that a homosexual and a heterosexual subgroup can be delineated among these offenders. Categorizing them in this way revealed important differences in the pattern of their sexual preferences [homosexual offenders were higher per capita]." W. L. Marshall, et al., "Sexual Offenders against Male Children: Sexual Preferences," Behavior Research and Therapy 26 (March 1988): 390.
The Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy published a study on the same topic, which discussed "the proportional prevalences of heterosexual and homosexual pedophilia." The study commented on a study that found that "the percentage of the homosexual pedophiles would be 45.8." Even adjusted downward for exhibitionists, "this would still indicate a much higher percentage (34 percent) of homosexuals among pedophiles than among men who prefer physically mature partners." Freund, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," 194, 197.
A study on pedophilia in the Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa reported: "According to the literature, findings of a two-to-one ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles have been documented." John M. W. Bradford, et al., "The Heterogeneity/Homogeneity of Pedophilia," Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa 13 (1988): 225. Elsewhere the study notes: "Researchers have variously estimated the incidence of homosexual pedophilia between 19 percent and 33 percent of reported molestations," 218.
The Journal of Sex Research reports a study that included "199 offenders against female children and 96 offenders against male children.…This would indicate a proportional prevalence of 32 percent of homosexual offenders against children." Freund, "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,"
A study of male child sex offenders in Child Abuse and Neglect found that fourteen percent targeted only males, and a further 28 percent chose males as well as females as victims, thus indicating that 42 percent of male pedophiles engaged in homosexual molestation. Michele Elliott, "Child Sexual Abuse Prevention: What Offenders Tell Us," Child Abuse and Neglect 19 (1995): 581.
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Agree consented adults should have right to choose their sexuality as long as it does not harm anyone or be illegal.
If some one is pedophile , sadist etc they choose if they act upon it and to what extent or if they try to "cure" their sexual desires and re program what they desire.
Can one reprogram what one is sexually aroused by.
Probably.
Try research about some brainwash and listening 24/7 to programs driving you mad and maybe or maybe not that may change you be it religion or sex?
Or may be it would not.
Hells fire club top level of educated people do sadist sex when it is not consented adults and they may do it in hospitals, schools, aged care facilities etc and make snuff movies of killing or torturing, feeding human flesh to humans or some one their dog who then "dissapeared", molesting babies or raping some real life person.
Some times for years and years.
They are expensive the snuff movies and kept secret and they can torture some individual for years and years and years and one under cover cop who busted some of them was under cover for years and years before they let her look at the illegal kinky stuff.
The people who drive these illegal activities have families and seem so good and often they are famous, or politicians but things are not as they seem.
Same as those trafficking and tricking ,prostituting young people are often family people may attend church and make a 4tune on sexslaves or maybe a young girl has nice coat they steal to feel and look good.
We choose if we want to act out upon our sexual desires.
We could live celibate.
But how horrid. lol
Or we could choose how we interact sexually .
When our life revolves around lust over love and some form of morals then that is bad for us and society.
A woman may be born with both sexes and maybe some one cuts a side out and it is always missing and she can never be complete till she is one with him again. born with a lion some may say with a smile.
if some one cut him out and look like make them feel and look good.
wears coat and name that not be theres that be theft and whom it stolen from can never be happy till it returned to united with whom she is as one.
one woman kelly held a two yr old toddler down while her husband raped her and they and molested the toddler as baby also.
The woman says "i am such a good wife, giving this to my husband". The child screams and "please help me" but no one ever helps.
In hospital the cause is covered up as if nothing ever happened.
They are famous people.
As she is rolled away she looks up and she wants to say some thing .tell them what happened to her. ask for help. But she can not speak. Not a word.
She is choked and choking.
She can barely breath let a lone talk.
May be these people are always like this.
Maybe it does not get cured no matter how reborn they are.
I beleive people can control more than they think about desire and sex.
One man with incredible sex drive like a wild beast told me he wears a chasity belt.
It helps him say no to woman trying seduce him and to master himself so he can be professional in important matters and focus.
He said he also cains or whips himself if he has impure thoughts.
He as most others have horridly awful dames where finding nice dame is difficult.
My time has dames and most of them have been bad to me.
Strange that , think they'd love real main but no instead they want say they main , they want steal time, etc etc.
Most dames are jealous and bad behaved and get together to bully true main and form sisterhood where they take shares all but true owner get.
I do not support homosexual marriages in churches and am suprised it is in catholic church welcome now.
I do support peoples rights as long as they are not hurting anyone illegally.
There is many ways to get married.
In church is not the only way.
One woman gave heart and leased energy for breeding in the 9 but never got it back as they became addicted .
It was for love but they berayed her for greed and lust and made them feel good not did they care how the owner felt awful instead they try kill her meat.
sacrificed for a friend but friend sacrificed for chose lust and greed and had not a care for friend.
The will was pure but it was dirtied.
Like a pure spirit and energy in wrong user is made dirty and yucky and some thing it is not.
An alcoholic addicted to an expensive spirit.Beyond alcoholic and drug addict.
All they acre about is them selves.
empty cup in room.
Shake head in disbelief at such a people.
A name in 9 stolen.
But more than a name was stolen.
So much more.
There are so many homosexuals raped non homosexuals but this does not get reported very often as otherwise.
Being outnumbered, rapist being educated and in position of power, being embarrassed....
Can we choose what sexuality we want to have in our name?
Or may be we are dominated, drugged, raped, programmed....
Unless we are raped in the 9 which does happen we have right to choose.
is it good for the energy.
whos energy... in whoms body...
exactly
I do not have a problem with any one being gay. There are many good nice homosexuals and some professional which is different one can be good at job but not professional (like a hairdresser spread false rumours , threaten customer cause they refuse to be gay with them or set you up eon deficency while they overload misusing it loom feel good but are bad and you look feel bad but are good and brave etc)
That is with them to choose but if scriptures of a church and a people is against it then why change that to suit what people want it to be.
If some one is pedophile , sadist etc they choose if they act upon it and to what extent or if they try to "cure" their sexual desires and re program what they desire.
Can one reprogram what one is sexually aroused by.
Probably.
Try research about some brainwash and listening 24/7 to programs driving you mad and maybe or maybe not that may change you be it religion or sex?
Or may be it would not.
Hells fire club top level of educated people do sadist sex when it is not consented adults and they may do it in hospitals, schools, aged care facilities etc and make snuff movies of killing or torturing, feeding human flesh to humans or some one their dog who then "dissapeared", molesting babies or raping some real life person.
Some times for years and years.
They are expensive the snuff movies and kept secret and they can torture some individual for years and years and years and one under cover cop who busted some of them was under cover for years and years before they let her look at the illegal kinky stuff.
The people who drive these illegal activities have families and seem so good and often they are famous, or politicians but things are not as they seem.
Same as those trafficking and tricking ,prostituting young people are often family people may attend church and make a 4tune on sexslaves or maybe a young girl has nice coat they steal to feel and look good.
We choose if we want to act out upon our sexual desires.
We could live celibate.
But how horrid. lol
Or we could choose how we interact sexually .
When our life revolves around lust over love and some form of morals then that is bad for us and society.
A woman may be born with both sexes and maybe some one cuts a side out and it is always missing and she can never be complete till she is one with him again. born with a lion some may say with a smile.
if some one cut him out and look like make them feel and look good.
wears coat and name that not be theres that be theft and whom it stolen from can never be happy till it returned to united with whom she is as one.
one woman kelly held a two yr old toddler down while her husband raped her and they and molested the toddler as baby also.
The woman says "i am such a good wife, giving this to my husband". The child screams and "please help me" but no one ever helps.
In hospital the cause is covered up as if nothing ever happened.
They are famous people.
As she is rolled away she looks up and she wants to say some thing .tell them what happened to her. ask for help. But she can not speak. Not a word.
She is choked and choking.
She can barely breath let a lone talk.
May be these people are always like this.
Maybe it does not get cured no matter how reborn they are.
I beleive people can control more than they think about desire and sex.
One man with incredible sex drive like a wild beast told me he wears a chasity belt.
It helps him say no to woman trying seduce him and to master himself so he can be professional in important matters and focus.
He said he also cains or whips himself if he has impure thoughts.
He as most others have horridly awful dames where finding nice dame is difficult.
My time has dames and most of them have been bad to me.
Strange that , think they'd love real main but no instead they want say they main , they want steal time, etc etc.
Most dames are jealous and bad behaved and get together to bully true main and form sisterhood where they take shares all but true owner get.
I do not support homosexual marriages in churches and am suprised it is in catholic church welcome now.
I do support peoples rights as long as they are not hurting anyone illegally.
There is many ways to get married.
In church is not the only way.
One woman gave heart and leased energy for breeding in the 9 but never got it back as they became addicted .
It was for love but they berayed her for greed and lust and made them feel good not did they care how the owner felt awful instead they try kill her meat.
sacrificed for a friend but friend sacrificed for chose lust and greed and had not a care for friend.
The will was pure but it was dirtied.
Like a pure spirit and energy in wrong user is made dirty and yucky and some thing it is not.
An alcoholic addicted to an expensive spirit.Beyond alcoholic and drug addict.
All they acre about is them selves.
empty cup in room.
Shake head in disbelief at such a people.
A name in 9 stolen.
But more than a name was stolen.
So much more.
There are so many homosexuals raped non homosexuals but this does not get reported very often as otherwise.
Being outnumbered, rapist being educated and in position of power, being embarrassed....
Can we choose what sexuality we want to have in our name?
Or may be we are dominated, drugged, raped, programmed....
Unless we are raped in the 9 which does happen we have right to choose.
is it good for the energy.
whos energy... in whoms body...
exactly
I do not have a problem with any one being gay. There are many good nice homosexuals and some professional which is different one can be good at job but not professional (like a hairdresser spread false rumours , threaten customer cause they refuse to be gay with them or set you up eon deficency while they overload misusing it loom feel good but are bad and you look feel bad but are good and brave etc)
That is with them to choose but if scriptures of a church and a people is against it then why change that to suit what people want it to be.
Simply, asking something that the world wants now that has debates will be turned into a subject where people will argue and debate. But as I was younger, way younger, the only friend i had then was a guy, and as i never had a friend who knew me so well then, i almost thought about dating him (yet i never had a gf at that time either yet.) but before i would get into such a thing, my conscience told me it was a little crazy of a thought. So, i asked other about it, straight people, adults, cousins, lesbians, and well... simply, i came to the fact after looking at "what its for, why they do it, why i would do it, what it would do for anyone, etc." I came up with the fact its just foolish. Then as I was saved years later, so much more facts even came clear to me about people being together as homosexuals. I see life as it should be as it was meant to, what it was made for. Us being humans, we should love all of each other. And some people dont get it straight when we say love and they think its either only loving family, or your lover romantically. I mean, if they see me tell a friend that is a guy "i love you" they will call me a homo. thats just wrong. We should only love one person with romantic love that we should marry first before doing anything sexual. Some people dont even need to hold hands, because that can get them into it. But anyways, looking at nature, it shows the same genders dont need to be into each other like romance brings with kissing, touching in certain ways, sexual intercourse, etc. Simply, it is disgusting, and by a man and man or woman and woman, it isnt anything like a woman and a man can be when it comes to the wonderful things about it. the same genders cant connect like a man and woman does, therefor, it shows they dont need to be together. They arent going to do anything except waste time being foolish, when its clear you dont need to do that and its not doing any good for you. But a man and a woman can make life, can share holiness, can do God's will, but the same gender cant do that. Do you not sign the load of signs already that its simply not a good idea? Some say only the same gender can love them like they want to be loved, well... either you dont need that love then or dont know what love you need, or you just havent waited with patience to find the right person of the opposite gender. Trust you will meet them one day, and they will. With all the wonderful things only a man and woman can share, it's worth the wait. And all this homosexuality, is all in your head, not in your spirit. and if your spirit doesnt have Jesus in it, then its all sin in your head and you're too blind to allow even common sense of nature to take its course. Seriously, there is nothing beautiful about homosexualities. I'm not judging by my opininion, simply the facts of life that was shown to us, we just need to open up our eyes, be willing to deny what we already believe and just see the truth.
