Gifts of the Holy Spirit

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RickyZ

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Well, the narrative describing Joseph's dream warning him to flee with the baby Jesus is documented in the New Testament. But I'll give you that it occurred before Christ's sacrifice and the freeing of man to be indwelt by the Spirit (altho... never mind). So maybe that wasn't the best example. It's what I came up with in the time alloted lol.

But to get back to the question, no, dreams are not a gift of the Holy Spirit.

Dreams and visions are a manifestation of the Holy Spirit. Gifts are specific movements of the Holy Spirit through someone who is indwelt, while manifestations are things (like demeanor and character) that grow out of being indwelt. Dreams and visions may be also messages from angels, as was the actual case with the story of Joseph.

Have you not had dreams, have you not had visions? I pray that you have, or will, and that you be open to them. God is the same then now and forever - and we can dream just as those past and those to come. Discernment is the key. God establishes His word to us by 2 or 3 witnesses, so something in a dream from God should be backed up by at least 1 other 'witness'. 'Could be a word of wisdom (a gift!) from someone, it should be in your Bible (possibly falling open to a passage that addresses it?), you might perhaps receive a piece of knowledge (another gift!) that pushes you along. It's by these things that we confirm God's word and revelation - including dreams - to us. By 2 or more witnesses, with confirmation in scripture.

Bad food doesn't usually come with all that ;)

Discernment, not dismissal. Why, that's another gift!
 

p_rehbein

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#22
seriously?

So you guys believe that EVERY dream a person has is FROM CHRIST? Every dream is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit?

.............wow............

And it's pretty clear that some do not understand what "gifts" of the Spirit means..........

So, I guess I should ask: Last night I dreamed I was King of some country, and I was the most loved person in all the world. Is this of God? Am I destined to be the most loved person in all the world? I also dreamed of a beautiful lady who loved me so much that no other would she even consider looking at. Is this of God.

(chances are, I should have stopped at two slices of pizza...........that third one may well have been a wee bit much)
 

RickyZ

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#24
Where did you get the idea that we are talking about all dreams?
 

p_rehbein

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Where did you get the idea that we are talking about all dreams?
Read the bearded Lady's comment #20 this thread, or, pretty much any of their comments...........
 
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cora

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p_rehbein sometimes its ok to be quiet, maybe you need to be re-educated in manners. I dont think every dream i have is from God The holy spirit or Jesus if you actually paid attention in class you would know that wouldn't you? It was a simple question requiring a simple answer in a "yes" or "no" format with some back up in scripture. Not a few post of showing your rudeness to me or others or your self opinionated answers. Geeze!!!
 

p_rehbein

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p_rehbein sometimes its ok to be quiet, maybe you need to be re-educated in manners. I dont think every dream i have is from God The holy spirit or Jesus if you actually paid attention in class you would know that wouldn't you? It was a simple question requiring a simple answer in a "yes" or "no" format with some back up in scripture. Not a few post of showing your rudeness to me or others or your self opinionated answers. Geeze!!!
I fully agree with the concept of "sometimes it's ok to be quiet.........." I just wish you had considered that before posting the "dream" comment.............AND I had considered that before initially responding to the comment..........oh well...........

"water"..............................................."bridge"
 

Ella85

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1 Corinthians 12
New International Version (NIV)
Concerning Spiritual Gifts

12 Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

Unity and Diversity in the Body

12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.

Love Is Indispensable

And yet I will show you the most excellent way.

Is this real?? I mean, I know people speak in tongues, but what about prophesy?
What is distinguish between spirits?
Miraculous powers?
Healing?
Does anyone have any of these gifts?

Prophesy about what?
Is this similar to fortune telling?
 

jb

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1 Corinthians 12
New International Version (NIV)
Concerning Spiritual Gifts

12 Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

Unity and Diversity in the Body

12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.

Love Is Indispensable

And yet I will show you the most excellent way.

Is this real?? I mean, I know people speak in tongues, but what about prophesy?
What is distinguish between spirits?
Miraculous powers?
Healing?
Does anyone have any of these gifts?

Prophesy about what?
Is this similar to fortune telling?


You can find a bit of a study Here on the (9) gifts of the Holy Spirit as listed in 1Cor 12v7-11...

Yahweh Shalom