I Think It's Important to Learn Broadly

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progressivenerdgirl

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I have noticed that a lot of Evangelical parents these days (okay, since the 50s at least) have tried to prevent their children, and frankly themselves, from reading all sorts of literature deemed unChristian or which had too many pictures of scary monsters on the cover, etc. I just do not get this. Thinking like this is why Flyover Baptism is turning into anti-intellectual stupor that can be bamboozled by the vaguest nonsense from elected officials and can't give any kind of credible response to atheist culture.

I know it's important to educate your children early in Christian values, and that is really one of the most important things you can do - give your kid as much theological and ministerial education as you can possibly afford and they can handle! But that is NOT good reason to go around hiding Harry Potter books because of some indirect parody of magic it involves.

In addition to the Bible in sundry translations there were dozens of volumes by Calvin, Luthor, R.C. Sproul, Gary North and Augustine; and by far the most common type of book in our home was theological, theonomic or devotional. On top of that there were piles of Nietzsche, Carlyle, pulp fiction magazines, Ayn Rand, comic books, Shakespeare and Thucydides. My father encouraged me to read it all, and more beside. I feel that my strength is stronger, truer and hardier because of it, for several reasons:

1) Because not everything worth reading was written by Christians. If you think Nietzsche's 'God is Dead' is all bunk, then maybe you should read him and get the fact that he's primarily attacking the self-immolating liberalism and hypocritical Christianity of his day. You don't have to agree with his positive thesis to learn from his critical thesis.

2) Because if you don't know what they believe you will look like a fool contradicting them. A personal example of this is how often I have heard protestants argue that Catholics believe in the doctrine that 'man is saved by works', which is little more than slander. You are not going to convince anyones by attacking straw men, and you may turn them right off.

3) Just because something has violence, sex, magic or monsters in it does not make it a priori an immoral piece of pornography. See: the Bible.
 

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I agree most christian parents do needlessly censor their kids lives. I goes back to something I saw you post in another thread about 'transcendentalism; the post-Puritan movement that went all Dualistic and decided to despise the Earth and the body. That sort of neurotic piety still infects even hyper-sexualized American culture, it probably feeds it, really.' Its the same with all aspects of culture. You have hyper-religious parents how raie kids in a sterilized controlled environment with very little outside influence and once they get out in the world they can barely function in society or they rebel and end up going overboard on everything. These same parents are the ones that think 'harry potter talks about magic, its clearly from satan. Or those two people mae a sex joke? this show is destroying my childs moral foundation.' I honestly think they should have their kids taken from them, so they can be raised in a proper environment and actually have a chance at life.
 
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I agree most christian parents do needlessly censor their kids lives. I goes back to something I saw you post in another thread about 'transcendentalism; the post-Puritan movement that went all Dualistic and decided to despise the Earth and the body. That sort of neurotic piety still infects even hyper-sexualized American culture, it probably feeds it, really.' Its the same with all aspects of culture. You have hyper-religious parents how raie kids in a sterilized controlled environment with very little outside influence and once they get out in the world they can barely function in society or they rebel and end up going overboard on everything. These same parents are the ones that think 'harry potter talks about magic, its clearly from satan. Or those two people mae a sex joke? this show is destroying my childs moral foundation.' I honestly think they should have their kids taken from them, so they can be raised in a proper environment and actually have a chance at life.
The Transcendentalism you mention is hilariously ironic, since it elevates the spirit and degrades the physical (both of which God made).
But wait - if the spiritual is all great, then what do they think Lucifer Morningstar is?
And this is what sets them down the path to Universalism, Liberalism and Romanticism - they need Satan to become a physical enemy they can attack with the government, and they assign that role to capitalists, or Jews, or whatever suits their political agenda.
 
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It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.


 
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I have noticed that a lot of Evangelical parents these days (okay, since the 50s at least) have tried to prevent their children, and frankly themselves, from reading all sorts of literature deemed unChristian or which had too many pictures of scary monsters on the cover, etc. I just do not get this. Thinking like this is why Flyover Baptism is turning into anti-intellectual stupor that can be bamboozled by the vaguest nonsense from elected officials and can't give any kind of credible response to atheist culture.

I know it's important to educate your children early in Christian values, and that is really one of the most important things you can do - give your kid as much theological and ministerial education as you can possibly afford and they can handle! But that is NOT good reason to go around hiding Harry Potter books because of some indirect parody of magic it involves.

In addition to the Bible in sundry translations there were dozens of volumes by Calvin, Luthor, R.C. Sproul, Gary North and Augustine; and by far the most common type of book in our home was theological, theonomic or devotional. On top of that there were piles of Nietzsche, Carlyle, pulp fiction magazines, Ayn Rand, comic books, Shakespeare and Thucydides. My father encouraged me to read it all, and more beside. I feel that my strength is stronger, truer and hardier because of it, for several reasons:

1) Because not everything worth reading was written by Christians. If you think Nietzsche's 'God is Dead' is all bunk, then maybe you should read him and get the fact that he's primarily attacking the self-immolating liberalism and hypocritical Christianity of his day. You don't have to agree with his positive thesis to learn from his critical thesis.

2) Because if you don't know what they believe you will look like a fool contradicting them. A personal example of this is how often I have heard protestants argue that Catholics believe in the doctrine that 'man is saved by works', which is little more than slander. You are not going to convince anyones by attacking straw men, and you may turn them right off.

3) Just because something has violence, sex, magic or monsters in it does not make it a priori an immoral piece of pornography. See: the Bible.
Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

You are what you eat. Becareful what you eat. If the devil can use it against you, he will, for the rest
of your life.
 
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progressivenerdgirl

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Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

You are what you eat. Becareful what you eat. If the devil can use it against you, he will, for the rest
of your life.
I really don't get your concern. While reading trash for its own sake is a bad habit, there's no need to be paranoid. Furthermore a real Christian should be able to handle it - God's grace moves through them.