Israel is not America's 51st state so why do we give them a dime-?

If you are saying that Christians are Israelites and have replaced the Jews you are speaking about a false doctrine. Its as simple as that. If you mean something different,please explain.

Evidently you have not read the New Testament nor the quotes which I have given you.

Read what it says:



"Remember when in the past ye were Gentiles" Eph 2:11

"Ye are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus" Gal 3:26


"There is neither Greek nor Jew ... If ye be Christ's then ye are Abraham's seed" Gal 3:28,29





Instead of criticizing, show me proofs from the Bible, not your opinion. I have given you proof from the Bible. Again, I challenge you to prove to me that the New Testament is wrong.

[FONT=&quot]Eph. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Yes,we are grafted in Romans 11 and we are children of God but we are not the chosen,the Jews are. There is neither Greek nor Jew spiritually, but physically there are promises yet to be fulfilled to Gods chosen that has nothing to do with us. We are grafted in. Romans is the proof.



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Your own post disproves your premise as it says "commonwealth of Israel", not Judah. Furthermore, that commonwealth is expanded to include all Christians as it is clearly stated in Galatians and Ephesians.


I await proof that the New Testament is incorrect.

Ok I have to answer this question. The proof that Christians are not all Israelite is in several places in the Bible. First you must have read some of it to understand this. At the start of the church Christians were called "wayists", the term christian was at first meant as an insult. As the church began to spread to the Gentiles several problems came up. The Jewish christians were trying to tell the gentile christians that they must accept all the Jewish traditions and that included physical circumcision. For the time and the lack of medical advancement, to get cut or circumcised it was a very real chance of bleeding out, aka die. Many new gentiles left the church in fear of death. There was several other things that they disagreed on, like Jews interacting with gentiles. Keep in mind that this is in Acts 10:28, Acts 15:20,29, Acts 21:25, Romans 14:5-8, and the best Galatians 2:11-18. The problem was the difference between Jew and Gentile not Christian over non-christian. These are the same events that decided what Gentile christians had to do to practice christianity. Christians are not all Jew or hebrew and not all Jew or hebrew are all christian. The Israelite nation have been crafted over thousands of years to be who they are by God, for a reason. That reason didn't end when Christ ascended back to heaven. They still have a role to play. Again, Christians are Spiritual Israelite's not physical, and yes we have part of the promise from God, as He planned from "In the beginning". God Bless

ye are all one in Christ Jesus Gal 3:28


we are all ONE

OK peacenik, I think I see where you are trying to go here. Yes, without a doubt ALL Christians are loved equally and without prejudice by God. In heaven and on the new remade Earth we will all be His loved children. We will not be couples married and we will be truly immortal and perfected by God. On this imperfect earth we marry, we die and we have different nationalities. I am an American of French and Cherokee descent. It could be possible that one of my ancestors were of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. I cant prove either way so I don't claim it. I am in Fact a God fearing and loving man of God, I am not however a Israelite (as far as I know). God Bless.

Read the Bible and you will know.

SPIRITUALLY!!! NOT PHYSICALLY!!

If I thought it would do any good I would break it down for this guy... but I think he is like many left-wingers and just hate the Jews.

So far I haven't seen anyone he doesn't hate. I haven't seen one positive comment yet. But the Jews in particular are on his hate radar.

It could be said, in a very general sense, that because we are all descendants from Adam and Eve, we are all one physically also.

No, the Bible doesn't teach that. There are promises that are to the Jews and the Jews only.

All are "equal" as I have directly quoted previously.

Still waiting for your "proof" that the Bible is wrong.







There's a certain irony to this comment as my ancestors were Jews and I can point out my ancestors in the Bible. Can you do the same?






Funny thing how the right wingers say that anyone who uses the bigotry argument do so because they fail in their debates. That such an accusation is a concession of defeat. And yet nobody on this forum makes more accusations of prejudice than do these deceived right wingers! Clearly these people are the modern day equivalent of the Pharisees who just cannot see that it is they who are the ones who sin while imagining themselves better or holier-than-thou over everyone else.

Dude what are you even trying to say? Is that your strategy in a debate? Be so illogical folks cant even debate your point of view with either logic or biblical truth?

No strategy needed as it is so easy to defeat you deluded right wingers.

On this thread as in others I give you direct quotes from the Bible to make my point. By contrast all you and others do is to repeat certain phrases without quoting from the Bible, then you criticize any other viewpoint, and then you satisfy yourselves that you have a monopoly on the truth.

So far you have given me nothing to refute what I have written and am still awaiting your "proof" that my direct quotes from the Bible are "wrong". Good luck in that regard.

America has no enemies?! What are you drinking? You HAVE heard of ISIS, right?

The terrorists in the Palestinian area are constantly attacking Israel. If a counter attack kills Palestinian children, it is an unfortunately consequence of war. The conflict between Palestine and Israel will continue until the Palestinian authorities recognize the right of Israel to exist. Personally, I don't think that will ever happen.

The US gives out all kinds of aid to all kinds of countries. Israel receives aid from the US because they are our closest ally in the region and protect our interests in that region -- namely keeping a tamp down on terrorism AND they give us intelligence regarding terrorists.

Unfortunately, Obama is damaging our relationship with Israel. On the plus side, I think Netanhayu sees that it's not, for the most part, the American people who are against Israel, but our Muslim-loving president.

Dude ..if you knew the bible you would know a direct quote from it ..and you point about Christians being called Israel is common knowledge among Christian ..as I said you don't even use the best scriptures to make that point. So since you admit we are part of Israel....all the more reason for us to defend Israel

Reverse psychology,love it.

I sometimes wonder if people who create threads like this one, are trying it on for size

Nazi Germany sound familiar?

same spirit IMO