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Willie-T

Willie-T

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You're knocking him because he thinks the idea of Purgatory makes sense? Shoot 90% of Christians think they go straight to a place called Heaven when they die.

But, we all seem to think there has to be a "judgment" first. So do the bad guys get to hang out in heaven till that judgment? Or are the good guys sent to hell, then at a judgment, retrieved from the flames?

Jesus even spoke of a place where Lazarus and the dives went right after death. Where was that? It sure wasn't Heaven nor Hell, as they were having calm, rational conversations back and forth.

So, he thinks there is a waiting area. So what?? Most of us envision something similar.

I personally think we are stone dead in a grave (or wherever). Does that make me a Jew?

Just get off the guy's case, and enjoy his interesting little story books. You certainly don't believe he was trying get you to believe there was a Greyhound bus in The Great Divorce, do you?
 
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Chuckt

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Willie-T said:
You're knocking him because he thinks the idea of Purgatory makes sense? Shoot 90% of Christians think they go straight to a place called Heaven when they die.

But, we all seem to think there has to be a "judgment" first. So do the bad guys get to hang out in heaven till that judgment? Or are the good guys sent to hell, then at a judgment, retrieved from the flames?

Jesus even spoke of a place where Lazarus and the dives went right after death. Where was that? It sure wasn't Heaven nor Hell, as they were having calm, rational conversations back and forth.

So, he thinks there is a waiting area. So what?? Most of us envision something similar.

I personally think we are stone dead in a grave (or wherever). Does that make me a Jew?

Just get off the guy's case, and enjoy his interesting little story books. You certainly don't believe he was trying get you to believe there was a Greyhound bus in The Great Divorce, do you?
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The Pulpit or Christian teaching is for the word of God. Storytelling and entertainment really isn't the place for it.
Teaching is more than presenting a bunch of facts. Teaching is taking the word of God seriously.
C.S. Lewis is not a serious teacher and should probably get thrown out of some Christian schools if he grew up over here in my opinion.

Prior to the cross, the righteous went to Abraham's bosom and the lost went to the other side of the chasm and were in flames. Purgatory is wrong because it suggests a way out of the flames.

Revelation 22:11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy."

My stepmother use to joke about Christianity and then she died. Do you want to not take seriously eternal life or what has been offered to you?

Matthew 7:24 ¶ Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Matthew 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Matthew 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

C.S. Lewis's words are words built on the sand. Christ's words are built on the rock.
You can build your life on C.S. Lewis if you want but in the end but the ground you stand on will not support you unless you build your life upon the words of Jesus because He is the rock.

I will not bend or negotiate with you because this is the truth.
 
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BrotherJustin

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Love it, Willie-T!

"I hope no reader will suppose that "mere" Christianity is here put forward as an alternative to the creeds of the existing communions—as if a man could adopt it in preference to Congregationalism or Greek Orthodoxy or anything else. It is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms. If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted. But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals. The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in. For that purpose the worst of the rooms (whichever that may be) is, I think, preferable.

It is true that some people may find they have to wait in the hall for a considerable time, while others feel certain almost at once which door they must knock at. I do not know why there is this difference, but I am sure God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait. When you do get into your room you will find that the long wait has done you some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light: and, of course, even in the hall, you must begin trying to obey the rules which are common to the whole house. And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and paneling.

In plain language, the question should never be: "Do I like that kind of service?" but "Are these doctrines true: Is holiness here? Does my conscience move me towards this? Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular door-keeper?"

When you have reached your own room, be kind to those Who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them. That is one of the rules common to the whole house."

- C.S. Lewis, Preface to Mere Christianity
 
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