Nikki Haley for President

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Cameron143

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And that reveals YOUR bias
Hardly. Trump is a narcissist. He's insecure and needs to continually be affirmed. But he doesn't want to change America to a dictatorship. He wants to restore America to the great country it once was. That's what MAGA is all about.
What your emoji suggests is your lack of understanding as well as some underlying bias. Am happy to explore that with you if you like. Just leave 5 cents on the counter.
 

JTB

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To me he was the best president of my life.

He won the cold war without firing a shot

did so much that it was not until the second term of Clinton that the positives he created ceased to be beneficial anymore..
Worst thing he did was codify income inequality.

It's been 40 years. When does it start trickling down?
 

JTB

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Hardly. Trump is a narcissist. He's insecure and needs to continually be affirmed. But he doesn't want to change America to a dictatorship. He wants to restore America to the great country it once was. That's what MAGA is all about.
What your emoji suggests is your lack of understanding as well as some underlying bias. Am happy to explore that with you if you like. Just leave 5 cents on the counter.
You know, I go to therapy to learn how to deal with people who won't go to therapy.

And the therapists all agree I see things clearer than most, because I'm willing to look at BOTH sides and take NEITHER as 100% truth.
 

posthuman

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And now his primary victories already prove you wrong.
if primary victories prove someone is a great candidate you owe mr. biden and mrs. clinton some apologies, lol
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Why wow?? Summer of love saw the most destructive riots in the history of the country. People were actually murdered, like David Dorn. Police were beaten with bottles of ice and batteries, anything they could get their hands on. They took over 4 city blocks and stopped police from saving a young man's life.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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And the therapists all agree

Ummm just how many are you seeing??



I see things clearer than most, because I'm willing to look at BOTH sides and take NEITHER as 100% truth.
But one situation IS worse than the other. And if you can't see and understand that you might want to drop a therapist or two and pay attention to what is happening in the country and why this election is so important.
 

DRobinson

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You know, I go to therapy to learn how to deal with people who won't go to therapy.

And the therapists all agree I see things clearer than most, because I'm willing to look at BOTH sides and take NEITHER as 100% truth.
The only therapist I need or go to is my Lord and Savior.
I pray and study His Word.
All I need to know is found in His Word and on my knees.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Oh really....

Leviticus 19:13 You shall not oppress your neighbor, nor rob him. The wages of a hired man are not to remain with you all night until morning.
Yes really, it's not socialism that has raise people out of poverty around the world. In fact it's tanked everywhere it has been tried. It's capitalism that has brought people out of poverty, there are the stats and the history to back that up.

Deuteronomy 8:17-18 You may say in your heart, “The power and the strength of my hand has made this wealth for me.” But remember that it is the LORD your God who gives you the power to gain wealth, in order to confirm His covenant that He swore to your fathers, as it is this day.
Has nothing to do with what I said. I said the love of money is what is evil. Having money is not wrong or evil. None of the verses you posted say it's evil to be successful or have money. You wasted your time.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Matthew 4:9-10 and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me." Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only’”.
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It's still not saying anything against success and having money.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Oh heck no. And if you'd been following along without your blinders, you'd know I don't support EITHER side without having to ask.

And that right there confirms your bias.

Lose that and you'll see I'm right.

The left deceives the world

The right deceives believers
Well Trump is not really the right. The right hate him also.. I guess you did not know that
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Oh really....

Leviticus 19:13 You shall not oppress your neighbor, nor rob him. The wages of a hired man are not to remain with you all night until morning.

Deuteronomy 8:17-18 You may say in your heart, “The power and the strength of my hand has made this wealth for me.” But remember that it is the LORD your God who gives you the power to gain wealth, in order to confirm His covenant that He swore to your fathers, as it is this day.

Deuteronomy 24:12-15 If he is a poor man, you shall not sleep with his pledge. When the sun goes down you shall surely return the pledge to him, that he may sleep in his cloak and bless you; and it will be righteousness for you before the LORD your God. You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns.

Deuteronomy 32:15 Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; filled with food, they became heavy and sleek. They abandoned the God who made them and rejected the Rock their Savior.

Nehemiah 9:25-26 They captured fortified cities and a fertile land They took possession of houses full of every good thing, Hewn cisterns, vineyards, olive groves, Fruit trees in abundance So they ate, were filled and grew fat, and reveled in Your great goodness. "But they became disobedient and rebelled against You, And cast Your law behind their backs And killed Your prophets who had admonished them So that they might return to You, And they committed great blasphemies.

Job 31:24-28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; If I have looked at the sun when it shone or the moon going in splendor, And my heart became secretly enticed, And my hand threw a kiss from my mouth, That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.

Job 20:17-20 He does not look at the streams, the rivers flowing with honey and curds. He returns what he has attained and cannot swallow it; As to the riches of his trading, He cannot even enjoy them. For he has oppressed and forsaken the poor; He has seized a house which he has not built. Because he knew no quiet within him, He does not retain anything he desires.

Psalm 52:6-7 The righteous will see and fear, and will laugh at him, saying, "Behold, the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."

Psalm 62:10 Do not trust in oppression and do not vainly hope in robbery; If riches increase, do not set your heart upon them.

Proverbs 11:4 4Wealth is worthless in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death.

Proverbs 11:24-26 One person gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed. People curse the one who hoards grain, but they pray God’s blessing on the one who is willing to sell.

Proverbs 11:28 He who trusts in his riches will fall, But the righteous will flourish like the green leaf.

Proverbs 13:7-8 One pretends to be rich, but has nothing; another pretends to be poor, yet has great wealth. Riches may ransom a man’s life, but a poor man hears no threat.

Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest wealth will dwindle, but what is earned through hard work will be multiplied.

Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

Proverbs 15:6 Great wealth is in the house of the righteous, but trouble is in the income of the wicked.

Proverbs 18:11 A rich man’s wealth is his strong city, And like a high wall in his own imagination.

Proverbs 18:23 The poor man pleads for mercy, but the rich man answers harshly.

Proverbs 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to make more for himself or who gives to the rich, will only come to poverty.

Proverbs 23:4-5 Do not wear yourself out to get rich; be wise enough to restrain yourself. When you glance at wealth, it disappears, for it makes wings for itself and flies like an eagle to the sky.

Proverbs 28:11 The rich man is wise in his own eyes, But the poor who has understanding sees through him.

Proverbs 28:20 A faithful person will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 30:8-9 Keep deception and lies far from me, give me neither poverty nor riches; Feed me with the food that is my portion, That I not be full and deny You and say, "Who is the LORD?" Or that I not be in want and steal and profane the name of my God.

Ecclesiastes_5:10–13 He who loves money is never satisfied by money, and he who loves wealth is never satisfied by income. This too is futile. When good things increase, so do those who consume them; what then is the profit to the owner, except to behold them with his eyes? The sleep of the worker is sweet, whether he eats little or much, but the abundance of the rich man permits him no sleep. There is a grievous evil I have seen under the sun: wealth hoarded to the harm of its owner

Isaiah 1:23 Your rulers are rebels and companions of thieves; Everyone loves a bribe And chases after rewards. They do not defend the orphan, nor does the widow's plea come before them.

Jeremiah 22:13 Woe to him who builds his house without righteousness And his upper rooms without justice, Who uses his neighbor's services without pay And does not give him his wages,

Jeremiah 49:4 How boastful you are about the valleys! Your valley is flowing away, O backsliding daughter who trusts in her treasures, saying, 'Who will come against me?'

Ezekiel 28:5 By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches and your heart is lifted up because of your riches

Hosea 13:6 As they had their pasture, they became satisfied, and being satisfied, their heart became proud; Therefore they forgot Me.

Micah 6:12 For the rich men of the city are full of violence, her residents speak lies, And their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.

Haggai 1:3-5 Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, "Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?" Now therefore, thus says the LORD of hosts, "Consider your ways!

Malachi 3:5 Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.


But wait, there's more...
Yeah,

Trump loved money so much he refused to take a pay check for 4 years..

You should try harder man..
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Worst thing he did was codify income inequality.

It's been 40 years. When does it start trickling down?
Was you around when he was president?

Where did all he did go? Start with Clinton and move forward..
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Yes really, it's not socialism that has raise people out of poverty around the world. In fact it's tanked everywhere it has been tried. It's capitalism that has brought people out of poverty, there are the stats and the history to back that up.



Has nothing to do with what I said. I said the love of money is what is evil. Having money is not wrong or evil. None of the verses you posted say it's evil to be successful or have money. You wasted your time.
I guess Abraham and Job were prety evil people in his eyes