On Donald Trump winning the 2024 election

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Eli1

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IDK there might not be a next time.Donald Trump is in office,it might be the last time people will have to vote.
Indeed.
These are dangerous times my friend.
It may be time for you to renew your passport and start looking for a new home.
 

hornetguy

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Man-stealing was never advocated by God. That's what slavery was in America.
advocated might have been the wrong term.... acknowledged might be more accurate. The fact is, there were slaves all through history... and ALL slavery is man-stealing, in one form or another. I don't know of anyone that volunteered to become a slave.

Indentured servitude is a different thing.... many times it IS done with the servant's permission. Sometimes it was a penalty for crimes committed... I've read many articles that say that indentured servants in the US were treated worse than slaves were.... slaves were bought, so most slave masters did not want to unduly damage their "property". Indentured servants were not paid for by the masters, so they really did not care about the welfare of the servants...

I'm certainly not an expert on this topic, but I have read some on it....
 

shittim

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advocated might have been the wrong term.... acknowledged might be more accurate. The fact is, there were slaves all through history... and ALL slavery is man-stealing, in one form or another. I don't know of anyone that volunteered to become a slave.

Indentured servitude is a different thing.... many times it IS done with the servant's permission. Sometimes it was a penalty for crimes committed... I've read many articles that say that indentured servants in the US were treated worse than slaves were.... slaves were bought, so most slave masters did not want to unduly damage their "property". Indentured servants were not paid for by the masters, so they really did not care about the welfare of the servants...

I'm certainly not an expert on this topic, but I have read some on it....
I have ancestors who achieved passage to America by being indentured to serve a landowner here.
 

Susanna

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I remember long, long ago in a chat room far, far away, there was this one Australian woman who was almost a conversational Jiu-Jitsu master. No matter what the topic was, she would turn it into griping about how mistreated the Aborigines were.
You’re quite the conversational Jiu-Jitsu master yourself. Here I am griping about Cajuns and then you’re totally flipping the conversation over to something else!😂
 

hornetguy

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Yep, sure is. And when this debacle comes to an end I’m going to start whining about how things are for us Cajuns here in America.
:eek::eek: You're a Cajun? ...... reminds me of the old joke.... "that's funny, you don't LOOK Jewish...."
 

MeowFlower

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advocated might have been the wrong term.... acknowledged might be more accurate. The fact is, there were slaves all through history... and ALL slavery is man-stealing, in one form or another. I don't know of anyone that volunteered to become a slave.

Indentured servitude is a different thing.... many times it IS done with the servant's permission. Sometimes it was a penalty for crimes committed... I've read many articles that say that indentured servants in the US were treated worse than slaves were.... slaves were bought, so most slave masters did not want to unduly damage their "property". Indentured servants were not paid for by the masters, so they really did not care about the welfare of the servants...

I'm certainly not an expert on this topic, but I have read some on it....
There was indentured servitude in scripture . It was a means of paying debts.

Slavery though was also in scripture. Every race has been enslaved at one time or other in history. And it continues to this day.
 

SaysWhat

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Barbaric slavery,the owning of another human being.

America has done Some things to right the wrong but IMO America never truly repented for this the way a man/women repents when they do an alter call and someone comes up to repent,but America repents by a little something here and a little something there,now stop complaining because we made you equal.

IMO that's not repentance from the heart but repentance in word.
In the last five years, people who are enslaved grow by 10 million. For a global total of around 50 million. There's no country where people are not enslaved right now.
 

Zandar

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Man-stealing was never advocated by God. That's what slavery was in America.
Most of the world used slaves. There are still countries that do. And I'm talking about people owning other people.
 

Zandar

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And? Your response makes zero sense based on my comment.
You have to put it in perspective that thats how the countries of the world got by was with slave labor. If one country used slave labor and the others didn't the one with the slaves has a huge advantage over the others. Until modern industrial methods that is. And now we still deal with some countries like China that exploit their people. The ones with slaves now are in the mining industry.
 

NightTwister

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You have to put it in perspective that thats how the countries of the world got by was with slave labor. If one country used slave labor and the others didn't the one with the slaves has a huge advantage over the others. Until modern industrial methods that is. And now we still deal with some countries like China that exploit their people. The ones with slaves now are in the mining industry.
Still makes no sense
 

ResidentAlien

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I really don't think Donald's administration will be that successful for a few reasons: 1) Just because someone gets elected, that doesn't mean they're competent; 2) He's demonstrated over and over he's not competent. All his business failures, and the failure of his first term as president prove that; 3) He's all show and no substance. His presidency should be called the Donald Trump Presidential Reality Show; 4) Lastly, and probably the most important: All his cabinet picks are loyalist suck-ups, not competent people. This isn't smart and it's almost certain they are going to screw things up, even for Trump's own voters. This isn't the way to make America great again.