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maxwel

maxwel

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Oh, Max! I thought you knew me well enough. It's me. Miss Old-school, keep-the-definitions-the-same woman. Revival. When there is a great awakening of God in a large area. The one I came out of was The Jesus Movement of the late 60's-early 70's. The one before that was The Azusa Street Revival and The Scottish Revival. My favorite was the one in New England started through a man named Jonathan Edwards.

Why? What were you thinking?
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You've defined a revival as "a great awakening of God in a large area".

Ok.

But what does THAT mean?


How large EXACTLY is a "large area"?
Does this mean a whole continent, or a nation, or a state, or a county, or a town, or a neighborhood, or a single church, or a single family, or a single person?
How large an area?
What are we even talking about?
How are we choosing to define this?
Do we all view it differently?
Are we all thinking about different sizes, and different types of breadth, and different types of reach, when we use the word revival?
If so, then we're all talking about different things.


What EXACTLY does "a great awakening of God" mean?
What does this look like?
How do we measure it, so we know it when we see it?
How do we define it?
What exactly does it look like?
What exactly dos it NOT look like?
Is EVERY EVENT AT A CHURCH A REVIVAL? If not, then how do we know when something is NOT a revival... what definitions do we use to determine what events are NOT revivals?
How is it initiated?
How is it spread?
Does it spread?
What are it's results... both at the personal level, and at a larger level?
How exactly do we recognize it, so we know it when we see it?


Doctrine
This all ends up in matters of BIBLICAL DOCTRINE, in defining what is, and is not, a revival.
If people disagree on matters of doctrine,
then they're going to disagree about what they call a "revival".



Conclusion

A. How we define "revival" all boils down to our views on BIBLICAL DOCTRINE in order to define what precisely a revival is, and is not. And just like any doctrinal issues on CC, we're going to have MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

B. This is my point, and my only point.
I don't want to argue about this stuff.
I'm just pointing out that this all boils down to doctrinal issues... issues which people on CC NEVER AGREE ON.
:)

That's all.
 
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Adstar

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RickyZ said:
Every time a sinner comes to Christ, that's a HUGE revival!
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A personal revival.. But that is not a great revival.. That is when vast numbers of people come to believe Jesus and become saved.. I do not see any of that happening in these end times.. Quite the opposite actually..
 
RickyZ

RickyZ

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Adstar said:
A personal revival.. But that is not a great revival.. That is when vast numbers of people come to believe Jesus and become saved.. I do not see any of that happening in these end times.. Quite the opposite actually..
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Jesus said it would be that way. The apostasy. Most people know about the antichrist but not the apostasy. But Paul put them on an equal footing.
 
Blain

Blain

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Miri said:
Wow is it really only 4 years.

I remember when you first came on this site and you were still a baby. :)
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lol I still consider myself a babe or at least a toddler that learned how to walk I still have a very long ways to go
 
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I came to the Lord in the last revival. The one before that was 60 years earlier.

And there isn't a great falling away happening now. Conservative churches (biblically conservative, not talking politics) are having a great increase right now. Only liberal churches are having a great falling away. But, if this is a revival, it's in its infancy. To me, it just looks like how it's been in the last 30 years, so I'm thinking not.

Then again, I was also thinking the Super Bowl would be Pittsburgh against Green Bay, so don't count on me as a great predictor of anything. lol
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*****pass the "cheese" and crackers...
 
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It's coming------ "America Will Be Saved" ----- Reinhardt Bonnke...
 
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Expecting 100 million souls to be saved in America----- in the next 10 years...
 
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Miri

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Ages ago maybe 3-4 years ago I had a dream about a sort of white mist rising up over America,
someone on here told me others in America had said the same thing.

Only in my dream a wide path or arrow then travelled out from America and went towards Europe.
The person said no one had mentioned that before.

I have no idea what this means but the person on here was certain it had something to do with
revival. I honestly can't comment as I don't know.
 
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oldethennew

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revival? - what about calamity? - what about this present-day 'reality' of facing what's really going-on?

so many times there's a 'lull-in-time' that deceives the masses, the complacent, those that just
go with the 'flow'...many have never done in-depth studies of the Prophets and their Prophecies?!?!

we shall see if calamity disperses all over our 'land'...we shall see who shall stand and who shall fall
and who will crawl on the crushed, plastic, trinkets...
 
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Miri

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Revival often followed calamity in the bible. :)
 
Blain

Blain

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Grace777x70 said:

Since I was born again since I was around 13 years old.
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Wow your really experienced aren't you? Thats a long time to be in Christ I wish you and i could hang out all the time so you could mentor me lol. I am actually half serious I have a lot to learn and grow in Christ
 
Pemican

Pemican

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I think before a revival comes to the USA there will have to be a major disaster that effects everyone. The people of the USA need a wake up call first.
 
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Pemican said:
I think before a revival comes to the USA there will have to be a major disaster that effects everyone. The people of the USA need a wake up call first.
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******* I understand were you're coming from----probably very much a possibility---especially for "some" areas of our Country----but we know Mercy triumphs over Judgment (James 2:13)---hopefully it won't be as bad as it could be...

 
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maxwel said:
You've defined a revival as "a great awakening of God in a large area".

Ok.

But what does THAT mean?


How large EXACTLY is a "large area"?
Does this mean a whole continent, or a nation, or a state, or a county, or a town, or a neighborhood, or a single church, or a single family, or a single person?
How large an area?
What are we even talking about?
How are we choosing to define this?
Do we all view it differently?
Are we all thinking about different sizes, and different types of breadth, and different types of reach, when we use the word revival?
If so, then we're all talking about different things.


What EXACTLY does "a great awakening of God" mean?
What does this look like?
How do we measure it, so we know it when we see it?
How do we define it?
What exactly does it look like?
What exactly dos it NOT look like?
Is EVERY EVENT AT A CHURCH A REVIVAL? If not, then how do we know when something is NOT a revival... what definitions do we use to determine what events are NOT revivals?
How is it initiated?
How is it spread?
Does it spread?
What are it's results... both at the personal level, and at a larger level?
How exactly do we recognize it, so we know it when we see it?


Doctrine
This all ends up in matters of BIBLICAL DOCTRINE, in defining what is, and is not, a revival.
If people disagree on matters of doctrine,
then they're going to disagree about what they call a "revival".



Conclusion

A. How we define "revival" all boils down to our views on BIBLICAL DOCTRINE in order to define what precisely a revival is, and is not. And just like any doctrinal issues on CC, we're going to have MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

B. This is my point, and my only point.
I don't want to argue about this stuff.
I'm just pointing out that this all boils down to doctrinal issues... issues which people on CC NEVER AGREE ON.
:)

That's all.
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A couple of decades ago, Brownsville Florida had a happening. "Great movement of God," so it is said. People across the country went down there to see it. It was quite a thing to see. And then they came home. and then they continued about their lives, but not much changed, except people in Toronto started barking in church and lots of stories passed around of miracles.

There was a great awakening in Scotland at the turn of the last century. Men stopped drinking. Families came together to pray and went to church together to be with others. Lives changed. Many lives changed. Back then the average age for boys to go off to go into the coal mines was early teens. A 14 year old boy went to work one morning, came home that night, and asked his parents what a word meant. He grew up in that village, and yet that was the first time he ever heard a curse word. So, not everyone changed, but a huge group did.

The first example was a happening. Something did happen there, but it didn't become a revival. It didn't have a chain reaction across a larger area. It didn't affect society as a whole. When God moves, people change to the good. Even those who won't believe in him still change their attitudes to those who do. It's pretty cool. That's what a Great Awakening is. That's God moving big time. And that's what most folks mean when they say "revival."
 
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