Proof of Purpose

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Ramon

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I am a really simple man. I don't go for complicated things. Surely, the purpose of it all had to be clear. If God was wise he had to be able to teach the smallest of children. And indeed, God is far wiser than humans.

I was looking at this lunch box I have, and it had this strap coming off of it, but looking at it, it really serves no special purpose really. It is just there. And even now I realize why so many people are not satisfied in their jobs. It is because they do not see an ultimate purpose. What is the end of it all? I can tell you for sure, that no goal or dream as pertaining to a future in this world will be worth anything. It is all vanity and vexation of the spirit. I remember now that when I received the revelation of Jesus Christ, my spirit was full of joy. I doubt I can display this joy as I felt it standing in the presence of the Lord.

This is the biggest test of any doctrine or any words or sayings. My spirit does not rejoice unless Jesus is being talked about, in truth. My spirit knows the fullness of joy now, and so it will not go for anything less than Jesus now. Any other food is not good enough. Not fulfilling enough. Wells that do not run dry is our Lord, bread that does not mold, that is our Lord.

When I look at the Lord's creations, i see purpose in EVERYTHING he has made. Most of it I do not understand. But God makes nothing without purpose. Don't you see how full this is? EVERY SINGLE PART HAS A PURPOSE!! This is amazing. And I am 100% sure that everything we will do in heaven will be with purpose, and no vanity in the work, no lack of fulfillment. I am sad now as I know many people will not make it in. This life has nothing to offer but death. Sure, for a season it seems this present life has something to offer. But the only thing this life can offer is death. But Jesus Christ offers eternal life. He offers a job with purpose. So I don't faint in this purpose, to share this good news with you.

There is nothing nor no one more fulfilling than Jesus Christ. It is an adventure in Him. It is a life full of surprise and uncertainty, yet we are certain of the end of it, that it will be to our joy in the end. Indeed, the proof of God is in purpose.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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The purpose is too follow God.. and yet the proof of God is in purpose... Ahm I the only one confused by that o_O
 

zeroturbulence

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Call me crazy, but I think the purpose of a job is to make money so u can have a roof over your head and food on your table.
 
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Phsh you have it all wrong, zero. The purpose in having a job is so that you have something to irritate you in your daily life and you can come home and complain about... and so you can relate with all the humor in Office Space lol
 
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Ramon

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Call me crazy, but I think the purpose of a job is to make money so u can have a roof over your head and food on your table.
Neither your job nor your roof nor your food will withstand the day of the Lord. It will not be security for you.

But the heavenly business, the manna from heaven, the head of the Church, if He is in you and you follow Him, then you will find the purpose of all things.
 
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Lad

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Just to let you know, no one goes to heaven :) we either go to paradise or hell from this earth, or the new earth or the lake of fire from judgment day.
 
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Ramon

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Just to let you know, no one goes to heaven :) we either go to paradise or hell from this earth, or the new earth or the lake of fire from judgment day.
You speak of the new earth without speaking of the new heavens?

Isa 65:17 ¶For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. *
 
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Lad

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the new heavens is outer space :)
 
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Ramon

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the new heavens is outer space :)
2Pet 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Pet 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2Pet 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

May Jesus bless you
 
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Lad

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Just looked that verse up the word 'heavens' there is the same as in revelation 21, the greek word is ouranos which means space and outer space :)

May Jesus be blessed.
 
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Ramon

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Just looked that verse up the word 'heavens' there is the same as in revelation 21, the greek word is ouranos which means space and outer space :)

May Jesus be blessed.
I will be simple then.

1st heaven sky
2nd heaven outerspace
3rd the dwelling of God.

plural, heavens.
 
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Lad

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yeah and the verses youve mentioned are the 1st and 2nd not the 3rd. No need to be simple. The Word of God has the ultimate authority with me not your interpretation.
 
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Ramon

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yeah and the verses youve mentioned are the 1st and 2nd not the 3rd. No need to be simple. The Word of God has the ultimate authority with me not your interpretation.
It it were then you would not contradict it by saying no one goes to heaven.

But I will end this here. May Jesus bless you.
 
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Arunawayhorse

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in my fathers house are many mansions..{where is my fathers house?}....if it were not so I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, {Where is He preparing this place?} I will come again and recieve you unto myself {Where is He coming from?} that were I am ye may be also {Where is He?}
 
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in my fathers house are many mansions..{where is my fathers house?}....if it were not so I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, {Where is He preparing this place?} I will come again and recieve you unto myself {Where is He coming from?} that were I am ye may be also {Where is He?}
Yes the many mansions Jesus is building for us is in heaven, and it will come down to the new earth as 'the new Jerusalem' :)
 
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Lad

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It it were then you would not contradict it by saying no one goes to heaven.

But I will end this here. May Jesus bless you.
Sorry I shouldve been clearer, I meant no one goes to Gods dwelling place, the 'third' heaven you mentioned. But yes we will get to explore the new heavens when we get our new bodies
 
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Ramon

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Sorry I shouldve been clearer, I meant no one goes to Gods dwelling place, the 'third' heaven you mentioned. But yes we will get to explore the new heavens when we get our new bodies
2 Corinthians 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago---whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows---such a man was caught up to the third heaven.

haha. This is funny though. Anyhow. LOL. hold on I have to tell you:

I don't do google ministry (I don't google to find spiritual truths), but I just did it and someone posted the same thing I did. LOL.

Anyhow, Genesis speaks clearly of the firmament. But I have, myself traveled by the Spirit into a place, and i don't know if it was heaven or paradise, but I knew i was in the presence of the Lord. I believe John also went to the third heaven also. Anyhow.

May Jesus bless you.

p.s. Oh and I did not know if I was in my body or not, but I am sure now i was in the spirit.
 
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Lad

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Really what did you see? And why do you think I havent seen that place?

Also they may have gone there in the Spirit but the certainly didnt stay there.
 
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Ramon

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Really what did you see? And why do you think I havent seen that place?

Also they may have gone there in the Spirit but the certainly didnt stay there.
One thing is for sure, in his presence I could not lift up my head for his glory. As I said i don't know where, but I could feel the praise of the hosts of the saints and of angels. And you are right I did not stay long. But the praises of God in that place are magnificent. All you want to do is praise him forever. That is all you want to do.

My friend, there is so much more to it than many people know. We have to get away from the carnal side to see the spiritual side. And there are some people who are more familiar with the spiritual side, as God has ordained it. But all of the body should know both sides, and how they are to operate in their calling. To know their function and how they all go together to one agenda of the advancement of the kingdom.

Seek for edification, because anything that doesn't edify tears down. may Jesus bless you.
 
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Lad

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Ok and no may Jesus be blessed.