Revival - what does it mean to you

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Miri

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I have been thinking about revival for a while and I wanted to pose the following queries to CC folk.

1) How would you recognise the need for revival in your country, area, church, yourself, etc?
2) If the need for revival was recognised what would you do about this?
3) If revival came how would you know this - what signs of this would you expect to see?
4) Last but not least - how do you think CC might be affected by revival. Is revival on an internet chat site a possibility?

Feel free to respond to just one or all of the above. No answer is too big or too small.
After all revival could or would affect us all? :)
 
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Jordache

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1). I think we could all use a revival at some point(s) in our lives. Sometimes we just need that spark.
2). I think the need for revival IS recognized by some people. If you study revival every big one started in unified prayer. But I also believe revival starts in one heart at a time. We don't have to have another APU revival in order to have one in our hearts. A personal revival is what is really needed regardless if there is a whole community joining you or not.
3) that's a good questions, but I think God is very evident at times. In myself I know I've had my own revival by the fruit of why God is doing in me. There are paradigm shifts, boldness, hunger stronger than before, lots of things. New life is born.
4). Revival can come wherever God is welcomed so it could happen here also.
 
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kenisyes

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Revival now is if the churches can stop fighting, and we can recognize that Jesus is the answer and start acting like it. By my definition, there is a core on CC that has been in revival since we signed on for membership.
 
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piper27

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kenisyes said:
Revival now is if the churches can stop fighting, and we can recognize that Jesus is the answer and start acting like it. By my definition, there is a core on CC that has been in revival since we signed on for membership.
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;) one word: 'satiate'


God is so good.
 
AAAPlus

AAAPlus

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1) How would you recognise the need for revival in your country, area, church, yourself, etc?
I think revival is a word that on-fire Christians like to throw around and talk about when they aren't satisfied with the way their church conducts itself. Yeah, it's a good thing, but if a church is stagnant, it's generally because the people don't really care. From what I've seen, revival in a church more involves many people leaving and being replaced by different people who are already on fire for God. Changing an individual person is a long process and I'm not sure how that would happen on a church-wide or city-wide level for any extended period of time. Out with the old, in with the new!

2) If the need for revival was recognised what would you do about this?
Good question

3) If revival came how would you know this - what signs of this would you expect to see?
Many people leaving, new people joining

4) Last but not least - how do you think CC might be affected by revival. Is revival on an internet chat site a possibility?
Nope. Okay well...it is possible by definition, but it's not going to happen. It has nothing to do with the site in general; for the most part it's very well managed and it's moderated better than any other Christian chat site out there. But the internet, by nature, is a very impersonal place. Even with all these additions like picture and voice chat, at the end of the day you can still be anonymous, and people refuse to be changed by someone that they don't know. The only people who are going to be changed here are people who came here for the specific purpose of being changed. Think about all of the arguments you've seen on internet forums - even on here. How many of those arguments ended with one side conceding that the other has convinced them to change their mind? My guess - exactly zero.

People are going to come on here for what they want to come on here for, and they aren't going to be convinced to go along with any other agenda.
 
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piper27

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Miri said:
I have been thinking about revival for a while and I wanted to pose the following queries to CC folk.

1) How would you recognise the need for revival in your country, area, church, yourself, etc?
The need for revival - hmmm, my humblest opinion would be anytime we don't see 'life' in body of believers. When we see pain and hurt and distress in a community; when there are those that are lost.

2) If the need for revival was recognised what would you do about this?
pray, cry out - declare Gods word over the people; over the land. Meet with likeminded believers, pray (and pray in the spirit)PRAISE HIS NAME and not relent until we see the mighty hand of God stretch out...
Pray for one another; edifiy each other, get into the Word.

3) If revival came how would you know this - what signs of this would you expect to see?
the word says that signs and wonders follow. We would see HUNGRY hearts wanting more and more of Gods goodness, religious bonds broken, we will see life.

4) Last but not least - how do you think CC might be affected by revival. Is revival on an internet chat site a possibility?
You bet! :eek: Sharing-testifying,praying, and most definitly, NOT judging. God is just too good for that.
He's he crying out to be let out of the box- and be God.

Feel free to respond to just one or all of the above. No answer is too big or too small.
After all revival could or would affect us all? :)[/QUOTE
Do you want to experience revival Miri? Revival is like and engine that doesn't quit.
Expectation and satiation. Revival is the discovery of precept upon precept. Revival is ripping away
everything you thought you knew.....revival is accomplishing, and being a part of things you never thought imaginable.
Revival is everything hoped for.
Revival is praising God day and night because he is so good.
God wants to do so much.
Blessings
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Miri

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God is indeed good - He takes us places where we dare not go ourselves and safely brings us through.
He refines us moulds us, leads and guides. He takes us into places of rest and and opens "that box". But while
he leads, he does not use force - we have to decide if we will go with him "come away with me" he whispers.

I have been thinking about this following conversations with people on CC and I know there are
people here who long for revival right here right now.
Even where there is revival there are always deeper levels to go:)
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Miri

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One thingI did wonder about after reading Ezekiel 37 - valley of dry bones.

Is it possible to limit God - does he want to do a whole work of restoration/revival.
But maybe we only allow it from the head to the knees - but then not from the knees down.
Or we allow him to restore our feet but not our hands - metaphorically speaking.

What are the barriers to revival.
 
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piper27

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Miri said:
One thingI did wonder about after reading Ezekiel 37 - valley of dry bones.

Is it possible to limit God - does he want to do a whole work of restoration/revival.
But maybe we only allow it from the head to the knees - but then not from the knees down.
Or we allow him to restore our feet but not our hands - metaphorically speaking.

What are the barriers to revival.
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Oh Miri!! I can sense your hunger.
Yes, we are the ones that limit God. God never holds back; in fact, this whole past year I have been studying identity.
Who am I in Christ; who is Christ in me. Now I thought I had a pretty good handle on this subject before -- I was wrong.

You are so right - we are fairly adept at only allowing God certain places.
Barriers to revival is ourselves.

One thing I have learned is that revival doesn't look like church.
God is definitly not in a box; we cannot figure out a formula to produce a result.
True Revival is actually not popular. Its too much for most people.

I will watch the youtube link you sent when I have time later this evening.
Blessings sister.
 
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kenisyes

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That dry bones passage in Ezekiel is worth studying out it the Hebrew. Sonny, in our prayer group, got a lot of prophecies on that. As I remember, there is like a five point plan in there for revival, a certain order in how the bones become living. I don't have time to resurrect what I put together for him, as it is quite long and depends on each word in vs. 5-10. It's a message for solitary Christians and for individual groups themselves. i suggest you look up each word in Strong's and note the differences in what happens and in what order.
 
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kenisyes

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I just found the e-mail I sent it to him on. Here's a copy:


Ezek. 37:2. Note that the prophet does not even know if the goal can be
accomplished. He says only God knows, so he waits to be told what to do.

Prophesy to the bones: What ear and brain is there to hear? Is this not
a new creation of God, speaking over a mess with no meaning, just like the
formlessness and void of Genesis 1? yet the word of God, delivered by a
man, causes the bones to shake and come together. Would we ever think
that man could create by his word? It is scientifically impossible for
the people who left those bones behind to hear the word, yet here is the
creative miracle.

Note the steps: First (vs. 4) get them to listen. This is the real
problem using this Scripture for the dry bones of (our town) . Then get them
to look, note the command in vs. 5 starts with "behold". We can see what
God is trying to do if we will only look where He tells us to. Breath
comes before sinews, flesh or skin. That's pretty important; when God
made us, He made the body first and then blew in the breath. It's just
like the Spirit blowing over the waters (same Hebrew word - Ruach). Again
confirming the new creation idea. Breath again after the body is
assembled. This is different from Genesis 1 in Hebrew. In Genesis 1, the
Ruach (Spirit, breath or wind) moves over the waters, but God blows
Neshamah (breath) into the finished Adam. Here, Ruach comes again fromt
he four winds. This is an important difference. Neshamah carries the
meaning of "the right to choose your own destiny". In this case, God's
RE-creation of His people from the bones calls the breath (Spirit- Ruach)
from the four-winds. God is restoring His people for the sake of the
earth. Not to choose our destiny, but to serve the earth and transform it.
But they do not come to life as people until God calls the breath in a
second time. Notice the prophet's perspective must change; he had been
looking at the bones, now he must call to the winds.

Suddenly, when speaking to the winds, the reassembled people are called
the "slain" (murdered) for the first time. Up until now, they were just
bones, and now they are raised to an army.

The next couple verses make it clear that these verses apply to us as the
the New Israel, also. They make it clear that the death that has made us
bones refers to our hope, and that God will restore it. And of course, we
were slain by what people have done to us in the name of God.

I wonder where the water comes from in this story? The bones started out
dry. I presume it's because of the FOUR winds (one brings rain in ancient
thought). God promises His Spirit (Ruach) but get the world to give what
we need in the world for us to live by means of the world spirit (ruach -
winds).
 
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piper27

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Oh Ken!! You're awesome! I read your email above while rushing to work and KNEW it deserved much more time than that!!
I love it. YES! and YES! and YES!

Speak to the bones, speak out the word, speak Gods promises, and let GOD resurrect life !!
He has equipped us for everything, and everything is to serve His purposes. We just have to agree with it and
say 'yes Lord!'

Its not our faith; but the faith that has been deposited in us by the spirit, and things come to life.
To know this, is to rest in this.

Calling to the bones , would that be speaking to circumstances?
Calling to the wind, would that then be speaking to the spirit, to life, the truth,
no matter what things might look like in the natural?
 
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kenisyes

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The bones are the members of the Body of Christ, whose hope for the opportunity to fulfill their ministry has never come. Yes, the wind is the spirit, but it is also the wind set in motion by the chariot in Ezek. 1.
 
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piper27

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could dry bones be anyone who doesn't know Christ yet?
 
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kenisyes

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I suppose that would be included. Until you know Christ, you won't be using any of your gifts.
 
Tommy4Christ

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Repentance on the scale of Nineveh!

Jon 3:1 And the Word of Jehovah came to Jonah the second time, saying,
Jon 3:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry out to it the proclamation that I am declaring to you.
Jon 3:3 And Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the Word of Jehovah. And Nineveh was a very great city of three days' journey.
Jon 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried and said, Yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown!
Jon 3:5 And the people of Nineveh believed God. And they called a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
Jon 3:6 For word came to the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne. And he laid his robe from him, and covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he cried out and said in Nineveh by the decree of the king and his great ones, saying, Do not let man or beast, herd or flock taste anything; do not let them feed, nor drink water.
Jon 3:8 But let man and animal be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily to God. And let them each one turn from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who knows? He may repent, and God may have pity and turn away from the glow of His anger, so that we do not perish.
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way. And God was compassionate over the evil that He had said to do to them, and He did not do it.
 
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Miri

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kenisyes said:
I just found the e-mail I sent it to him on. Here's a copy:


Ezek. 37:2. Note that the prophet does not even know if the goal can be
accomplished. He says only God knows, so he waits to be told what to do.

Prophesy to the bones: What ear and brain is there to hear? Is this not
a new creation of God, speaking over a mess with no meaning, just like the
formlessness and void of Genesis 1? yet the word of God, delivered by a
man, causes the bones to shake and come together. Would we ever think
that man could create by his word? It is scientifically impossible for
the people who left those bones behind to hear the word, yet here is the
creative miracle.

Note the steps: First (vs. 4) get them to listen. This is the real
problem using this Scripture for the dry bones of (our town) . Then get them
to look, note the command in vs. 5 starts with "behold". We can see what
God is trying to do if we will only look where He tells us to. Breath
comes before sinews, flesh or skin. That's pretty important; when God
made us, He made the body first and then blew in the breath. It's just
like the Spirit blowing over the waters (same Hebrew word - Ruach). Again
confirming the new creation idea. Breath again after the body is
assembled. This is different from Genesis 1 in Hebrew. In Genesis 1, the
Ruach (Spirit, breath or wind) moves over the waters, but God blows
Neshamah (breath) into the finished Adam. Here, Ruach comes again fromt
he four winds. This is an important difference. Neshamah carries the
meaning of "the right to choose your own destiny". In this case, God's
RE-creation of His people from the bones calls the breath (Spirit- Ruach)
from the four-winds. God is restoring His people for the sake of the
earth. Not to choose our destiny, but to serve the earth and transform it.
But they do not come to life as people until God calls the breath in a
second time. Notice the prophet's perspective must change; he had been
looking at the bones, now he must call to the winds.

Suddenly, when speaking to the winds, the reassembled people are called
the "slain" (murdered) for the first time. Up until now, they were just
bones, and now they are raised to an army.

The next couple verses make it clear that these verses apply to us as the
the New Israel, also. They make it clear that the death that has made us
bones refers to our hope, and that God will restore it. And of course, we
were slain by what people have done to us in the name of God.

I wonder where the water comes from in this story? The bones started out
dry. I presume it's because of the FOUR winds (one brings rain in ancient
thought). God promises His Spirit (Ruach) but get the world to give what
we need in the world for us to live by means of the world spirit (ruach -
winds).
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Hi Ken - that is really good :)

I came across an interesting verse Isaiah 26 v 19 But your dead will live, Lord their bodies will rise - let those who dwell
in the dust wake up and shout for joy - your dew is like the dew of the morning, the earth will give birth to her dead.

Maybe it explains where the water came from!

Oh this could go all sorts of places I have just found Exo 16 about dew around the camp and when it was gone
thin flakes appeared on the ground - the manna.

Our God is just amazing, he gives physical and spiritual life and continues to provide for both.

Just a thought, if someone is starving the signs are obvious and so is the treatment.
Is it possible that our spirit can starve and that revival is all about realising this and going to
the life giver for treatment
 
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kenisyes

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You know, I forgot about that Miri, the manna being condensed from Dew. That's the Eucharist condensing from the living water flowing through us. We are the bread of life served to the hungry world. Thanks.
 
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