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Is repentance saying you're sorry or is it just deciding to go the other way? I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's an honest question.

I'm sure Trump hasn't cracked a bible any if at all....or maybe just when he's at church or whatever. The thing is...I don't really know and to be honest if he puts into practice Godly character traits I'm okay with that.....and the man sure seems to have an exemplary family and grateful employees.

What I really think....and I'm just sorta spit ballin here......but I think those of you who dislike him have a hangup about him and it's probably from watching fox news and reading the NYT. Sure the guy had affairs and was a bit of a ladies man when he was younger....(he who has no sin cast the first stone) But I think he is done with all that and that he honestly loves America and its founding principles and he wants to do something about it.

What else ya got? 3rd party....Hillary....if she lasts til the general....and Bernie....I think the guy means well but he ain't got the skills nor does he know and have inroads already built into places like china and russia like Trump does. I think God has a plan for Trump.

You can poke fun at me if you want....I'll try not to take it personal. Lol
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I don't have cable and I don't get the appeal of taking the extra step online to find them to catch up. I consider the NYT a leftist rag. Hubby is stuck in bed for too long and gets the choice between Jerry Springer or The View, so picks CNN and has been mentioning something about the latest "vetting" but I gave up getting my vetting from TV back when Obama's book wasn't mentioned for all the fiction in the supposedly autobiography. Do you really want to know what I have against Trump? You won't see the answer on any news source -- reliable or unreliable on the Net or the tube.

But there is a third choice. I have missed two elections since my first year voting, (and I voted for Ford in fear all the Christians really were going to vote for Carter.) And I mean I vote every year, not merely every four years or every two years. I missed both because I was too sick to vote, and there were about 20 years between the two times, and both were off-year elections. (I didn't vote for state and local politicians those years.)

For the first time ever, I already know who I'm voting for in this Presidential election. I will vote. The Presidential vote will remain empty. I usually vote for the lesser of two evils. I'm not voting between two evils though. Can't do it. And don't say I can't voice my opinion if I don't vote, because my opinion was killed off three months before we could vote. It always is for the Presidency.

The country has chosen these two. (Is Bernie officially out yet?) Our life expectancy keeps dropping every time the country votes for Presidency because liberals and libertarians are one in the same and pretend to help the poor by hurting us.
 
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An uncast ballot is a vote FOR Hillary. That is a plain and simple fact. The Dems outnumber the Reps, so the Reps seriously need to have every vote they can find... hopefully a lot of Dem votes too, or Hillary will be our next president.
 
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Willie-T said:
An uncast ballot is a vote FOR Hillary. That is a plain and simple fact. The Dems outnumber the Reps, so the Reps seriously need to have every vote they can find... hopefully a lot of Dem votes too, or Hillary will be our next president.
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Love ya Bro, but that is simply not true. There is no factual evidence to support the assertion.

Both sides use this exact same argument towards folks who are not pleased with the choices given them to try and guilt them into voting for someone they do not want to vote for.

By not voting for the Presidential Candidate is in no way a vote for one or the other. As well, folks can vote for the "under card" Candidates, and this is where actual differences can be made with a vote.

Dems tell unhappy Dems/Independents: If you don't vote for Hillary, you are voting for Trump. NOT TRUE

Repubs tell unhappy Repubs/Independents: If you don't vote for Trump, you are voting for Hillary. NOT TRUE

Folks need to quit with this stuff............it is a patently false assertion.
 
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I'm sure Trump hasn't cracked a bible any if at all....or maybe just when he's at church or whatever. The thing is...I don't really know and to be honest if he puts into practice Godly character traits I'm okay with that.....and the man sure seems to have an exemplary family and grateful employees.

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The optimum word there being "IF." And there has been NO EVIDENCE of such so far has there.

As for "hang ups," I'd say folks supporting Trump are pretty "hung up" on ignoring the truth about Trump.


 
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I'm sure Trump hasn't cracked a bible any if at all....or maybe just when he's at church or whatever. The thing is...I don't really know and to be honest if he puts into practice Godly character traits I'm okay with that.....and the man sure seems to have an exemplary family and grateful employees.

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The optimum word there being "IF." And there has been NO EVIDENCE of such so far has there.

As for "hang ups," I'd say folks supporting Trump are pretty "hung up" on ignoring the truth about Trump.
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If Killary has opened a bible? Its was probably to do some sort of satanic ritual and insult the lord.
 
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Sirk said:
Is repentance saying you're sorry or is it just deciding to go the other way? I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's an honest question.

I'm sure Trump hasn't cracked a bible any if at all....or maybe just when he's at church or whatever. The thing is...I don't really know and to be honest if he puts into practice Godly character traits I'm okay with that.....and the man sure seems to have an exemplary family and grateful employees.

What I really think....and I'm just sorta spit ballin here......but I think those of you who dislike him have a hangup about him and it's probably from watching fox news and reading the NYT. Sure the guy had affairs and was a bit of a ladies man when he was younger....(he who has no sin cast the first stone) But I think he is done with all that and that he honestly loves America and its founding principles and he wants to do something about it.

What else ya got? 3rd party....Hillary....if she lasts til the general....and Bernie....I think the guy means well but he ain't got the skills nor does he know and have inroads already built into places like china and russia like Trump does. I think God has a plan for Trump.

You can poke fun at me if you want....I'll try not to take it personal. Lol
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Since we're on the subject. He's not any worse than what's been in there. And if we're honestly comparing. I will vote. I'll vote against Hillary.
Note: I hate politics in general. But I do believe Trump is great at saying what the people want to hear. I'm not being argumentative. (i promise willie) ;) I often wonder if he believes the issues he talks about. I'd love to see guns in every school to protect children. Well among other things.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Love ya Bro, but that is simply not true. There is no factual evidence to support the assertion.

Both sides use this exact same argument towards folks who are not pleased with the choices given them to try and guilt them into voting for someone they do not want to vote for.

By not voting for the Presidential Candidate is in no way a vote for one or the other. As well, folks can vote for the "under card" Candidates, and this is where actual differences can be made with a vote.

Dems tell unhappy Dems/Independents: If you don't vote for Hillary, you are voting for Trump. NOT TRUE

Repubs tell unhappy Repubs/Independents: If you don't vote for Trump, you are voting for Hillary. NOT TRUE

Folks need to quit with this stuff............it is a patently false assertion.
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Let's make it really simple.

If there are 4 people voting....... Yes only 4, because we are keeping this simple to keep from clouding the issue with big numbers no one can envision, and confusion about the Electoral College.

Two are R, and two are D.

The two D's vote for Hillary.

But, only one of the R's votes for Trump.

Why?

Because the other R is withholding their vote in protest, to make a "statement", or something.

Who becomes president?
 
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An uncast ballot is a vote FOR Hillary. That is a plain and simple fact. The Dems outnumber the Reps, so the Reps seriously need to have every vote they can find... hopefully a lot of Dem votes too, or Hillary will be our next president.
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There is no Republican running for the office, so my lack of vote isn't the problem. Lack of a Republican running is the problem, and the country already decided that before I got my shot in the primaries. We voted for a Republican. Trump won instead.

Hillary? So be it. We've already wallowed in seven and a half years of Obama. We keep sinking lower and lower, so I even know Obama won't be the worst for long.

Everyone assumes I should vote for either crap or poop. No. There is "don't vote."
 
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Sirk said:... I think God has a plan for Trump.

I think this is a very profound statement. And where our focus really needs to be. The optimism that God is still in control should be our comfort.
Also... Is anyone surprised by these current events?

Please ignore my rusty talents in quoting. Plus I'm on my phone.
 
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p_rehbein said:
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I'm sure Trump hasn't cracked a bible any if at all....or maybe just when he's at church or whatever. The thing is...I don't really know and to be honest if he puts into practice Godly character traits I'm okay with that.....and the man sure seems to have an exemplary family and grateful employees.

END QUOTE..........

The optimum word there being "IF." And there has been NO EVIDENCE of such so far has there.

As for "hang ups," I'd say folks supporting Trump are pretty "hung up" on ignoring the truth about Trump.
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We haven't had a Christian as President for most of my life. Three were since I could vote, yet that first one was just as incompetent as I imagined even if he was a believer. Christian or lack of Christian has nothing to do with my choices, simply because the ones that were Christian never let that interfere with their agenda.

To vote for Christians is as silly as voting for some politician based on whether they're "pro-life" or not. Who cares since simply thinking they are is all the further they take it? 44 freaking years later and the pro-lifers never got around to getting rid of Roe V Wade as law? Yeah. What they believe has too little to do with what they do to worry about.
 
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Since we're on the subject. He's not any worse than what's been in there. And if we're honestly comparing. I will vote. I'll vote against Hillary.
Note: I hate politics in general. But I do believe Trump is great at saying what the people want to hear. I'm not being argumentative. (i promise willie) ;) I often wonder if he believes the issues he talks about. I'd love to see guns in every school to protect children. Well among other things.
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I do believe he says what he thinks. I also know that's the problem. He thinks he's going to dictate. We already have one of them in office and it doesn't work well.
 
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People seem to want to childishly whimper, "If I can't have the person I first wanted, then I am going to take my marbles, and go home."

Well, I want Carson, but he lost out. Now I have one of the two choices our system of elections gives me.

It comes down to a simple question: Which is better?

If you think Hilliry is better, at least have the ___ to stand up and vote for her. If Trump, then get him elected.
 
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We haven't had a Christian as President for most of my life. Three were since I could vote, yet that first one was just as incompetent as I imagined even if he was a believer. Christian or lack of Christian has nothing to do with my choices, simply because the ones that were Christian never let that interfere with their agenda.

To vote for Christians is as silly as voting for some politician based on whether they're "pro-life" or not. Who cares since simply thinking they are is all the further they take it? 44 freaking years later and the pro-lifers never got around to getting rid of Roe V Wade as law? Yeah. What they believe has too little to do with what they do to worry about.
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I want someone to freaking worry about our military. Seriously? WE are America. Now with zero respect or honor. Very little troops... cut and no urgency of striving for power. Sigh...... The rest is icing or lack there of.
 
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I do believe he says what he thinks. I also know that's the problem. He thinks he's going to dictate. We already have one of them in office and it doesn't work well.
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Arent they all power hungry? Isn't that a definition of politician?
 
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Willie-T said:
Let's make it really simple.

If there are 4 people voting....... Yes only 4, because we are keeping this simple to keep from clouding the issue with big numbers no one can envision, and confusion about the Electoral College.

Two are R, and two are D.

The two D's vote for Hillary.

But, only one of the R's votes for Trump.

Why?

Because the other R is withholding their vote in protest, to make a "statement", or something.

Who becomes president?
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Yes, I am. The statement is clear. I will NOT vote in evil!

So, yup, evil becomes president anyway. No choice because both candidates left are evil. There is no "lesser evil" this time, and it was tough enough choosing which was lesser the last two times.

Vote. Don't vote. Either way, evil triumphs!
 
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This is an election for adults. We have to look at the world, and our position in it (or lack, thereof), and DO something fast.
 
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Don't vote... don't complain.
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I past seventh grade schoolyard axioms in 1969. They don't work for me anymore.

And, in my case, elections matter. Middle-class and rich people can afford to play at politics. I've seen politicians eroding my life since 1999. Bush passed Part D, (any sane adult could have figured out paying $25 for medigap insurance each month is cheaper and easier than taking a bus to Canada to buy prescriptions up there, but the media did its thing and no one cared enough to research on their own, because it didn't affect them), my medigap premiums doubled while service were cut in half.

Synthroid stop being one of my medications because of the doughnut hole. I couldn't afford it, because skipping my statins would kill be faster, and skipping the pain meds would put me right back to suicidal. 17 years later and an ultrasound and then maybe a biopsy in a couple of months tells me whether I can shrink my goiters by ablation or have them surgically removed along with half of my thyroid. No choice. By the time the law was changed again, doctors didn't think my goiter was anything to worry about ever. (They lost the paperwork that the government told them was okay to lose after seven years.)

Since then we keep going lower and lower because of how politicians can read the same charts to come up with both the numbers for COL for folks on SS and for their pay raises. They kept getting 3-10% pay raises. We got 0-1.5% pay raises.

I had to cut my medigap over and over again, because every time the government "helped" poor people, I kept having to pay more. When hubby got disabled too, he cut his medigap insurance by choosing to go to the VA. Good thing we didn't know he was having a heart attack. Had we known, we would have spent the $750 to take him to the nearest hospital. (Ambulances actually cost in this city, whether you're poor or rich.) Had he gone to the nearest hospital, by the time the hospital realized he only had Medicare, they would have shipped him to a different hospital. (Nearest hospital is a private hospital.) IF he survived that trip and then that hospital realized he only had Medicare, suddenly instead of rushing him to yet another hospital that specializes in stents, they would have tried to save his life at less expensive ways.

I'd be a widow and thankful that living on his SSI is just enough to survive on. The front sidewalk would still have a hole in it, so I'd be sued fairly regularly, but who knows? Maybe this house stays vertical long enough to pay off the mortgage and then need less home insurance, so people trying to sue me because they think I'm rich enough to pay will find out it wasn't worth their time.

Notice, that was what the government has done to all of us, not just with medical care, but it tends to matter to me.

I'm past seventh grade, so schoolyard axioms don't work. Maybe if people would stop thinking their government owes them a freaking fence between us and Mexico, we can get back to what government is supposed to do.
 
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Rosesrock said:
Sirk said:... I think God has a plan for Trump.

I think this is a very profound statement. And where our focus really needs to be. The optimism that God is still in control should be our comfort.
Also... Is anyone surprised by these current events?

Please ignore my rusty talents in quoting. Plus I'm on my phone.
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God had a plan for Rome too. It didn't work out so well for them. He had a plan for Egypt. It didn't work out so well for them. I think God has a plan for America, but I don't think it will work out so well for us either.

I know God is still in full control, but I know something of the history of Christians from the first through fourth century. God doesn't stop people from hurting Christians. (Hitler killed Christians too. That simply never made the headlines.) I don't see us needing the sewer systems to live in in our lifetime. I do see America falling rapidly. We're not innocent.
 
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People seem to want to childishly whimper, "If I can't have the person I first wanted, then I am going to take my marbles, and go home."

Well, I want Carson, but he lost out. Now I have one of the two choices our system of elections gives me.

It comes down to a simple question: Which is better?

If you think Hilliry is better, at least have the ___ to stand up and vote for her. If Trump, then get him elected.
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Yeah. More seventh grade schoolyard rules. Sorry. This isn't a game for me. It matters. Our lives are on the line.
 
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