So happy I voted for President Trump.

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since you want to play word games....

"but then some people support oligarchy on here"





es·pouse
/iˈspouz,eˈspouz/

verb

  1. 1.
    adopt or support (a cause, belief, or way of life).
    "he turned his back on the modernism he had espoused in his youth"
 

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Liberals needs to have a meeting about a meeting with 10 managers involved to answer a simple question.
That's why Trump fired them all.

#DOGE
It's not that. While that may be true of "Liberals" it's also true of bureaucrats in general-- of all stripes.

No, it's the clinically deceived that have trouble articulating their actual reasoning. They hide their thinking because it cannot stand in the light of logic. This is a perfect example. Deflection is the only tool in their toolbox. --And @HeIsHere has said she isn't a liberal.... I take her at her word, but it's also why I'm interested in hearing who it was she voted for. Was she true to her convictions, or a victim of her disdain. It's a conversation worth having if she would have it.... but she probably won't.
 

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No.

See how easy that is? Someone asks a question and then it is answered.
Well you support Trump, therefore can I conclude you support mass starvation?
He is complicit is he not?

You make the same assumptions that I am on the left.

When a person comes on these threads and criticizes Trunk's policies and rhetoric does...... oh must be a leftist.

So many people have left because of the this bullying and ganging up on them and then they have the audacity to claim it is the person cannot handle it, wanting a safe space.

Anyway you have shown yourself to be the same. Too bad really.
 

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Well you support Trump, therefore can I conclude you support mass starvation?
He is complicit is he not?

You make the same assumptions that I am on the left.

When a person comes on these threads and criticizes Trunk's policies and rhetoric does...... oh must be a leftist.

So many people have left because of the this bullying and ganging up on them and then they have the audacity to claim it is the person cannot handle it, wanting a safe space.

Anyway you have shown yourself to be the same. Too bad really.
Deflection denied.
 

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It's not that. While that may be true of "Liberals" it's also true of bureaucrats in general-- of all stripes.

No, it's the clinically deceived that have trouble articulating their actual reasoning. They hide their thinking because it cannot stand in the light of logic. This is a perfect example. Deflection is the only tool in their toolbox. --And @HeIsHere has said she isn't a liberal.... I take her at her word, but it's also why I'm interested in hearing who it was she voted for. Was she true to her convictions, or a victim of her disdain. It's a conversation worth having if she would have it.... but she probably won't.
Why would I, are you trustworthy or will you sink into "ad hom" like the rest.
 

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It's not that. While that may be true of "Liberals" it's also true of bureaucrats in general-- of all stripes.

No, it's the clinically deceived that have trouble articulating their actual reasoning. They hide their thinking because it cannot stand in the light of logic. This is a perfect example. Deflection is the only tool in their toolbox. --And @HeIsHere has said she isn't a liberal.... I take her at her word, but it's also why I'm interested in hearing who it was she voted for. Was she true to her convictions, or a victim of her disdain. It's a conversation worth having if she would have it.... but she probably won't.
You have good reasoning and are clear in your own thoughts. And yes, bureaucrats are another example of avoiding answering direct questions because it highlights their incompetence in whatever field they're in.

God bless you.
 

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since you want to play word games....

"but then some people support oligarchy on here"





es·pouse
/iˈspouz,eˈspouz/

verb

  1. 1.
    adopt or support (a cause, belief, or way of life).
    "he turned his back on the modernism he had espoused in his youth"
For you information....
"espouse" has a stronger connotation than support.
Support being more a passive action.
 

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Why would I, are you trustworthy or will you sink into "ad hom" like the rest.
I actually quite like you. And I'm trustworthy to the core. I don't "attack" people, even if I disagree with them. I much prefer to dialogue with folks and I much prefer to chat with those I disagree with, over an echo-chamber of those who see everything the way I do. What can a person learn in a school of fish? Each follows the other.

No-- I'd love to chat with you about your views, and share with you- mine.
 

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I actually quite like you. And I'm trustworthy to the core. I don't "attack" people, even if I disagree with them. I much prefer to dialogue with folks and I much prefer to chat with those I disagree with, over an echo-chamber of those who see everything the way I do. What can a person learn in a school of fish? Each follows the other.

No-- I'd love to chat with you about your views, and share with you- mine.
How strong is your ego? lol
 

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You have good reasoning and are clear in your own thoughts. And yes, bureaucrats are another example of avoiding answering direct questions because it highlights their incompetence in whatever field they're in.

God bless you.
While I appreciate the kind words, they are as impactful as any insults. You can fluff me up, or knock me down-- it's all the same to me. But that you consider what I'm saying-- that's appreciated... whether you agree or not.
 

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My brother is a poll worker in Southern Alberta-- where they are still counting. Not that it matters. In Canada elections are decided entirely in Ontario and Quebec.
 

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While I appreciate the kind words, they are as impactful as any insults. You can fluff me up, or knock me down-- it's all the same to me. But that you consider what I'm saying-- that's appreciated... whether you agree or not.
Everything that we say has some basis in truth and facts.
Everything else we don't understand it's up to God.

That's how i reason things.
So, there is truth in what you said about bureaucrats avoiding questions due to their incompetence.

When truth is shown to be different from what i believe, i then re-adjust my understanding.
It's very simple. It's a short life with no time to waste.
 

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Everything that we say has some basis in truth and facts.
Everything else we don't understand it's up to God.

That's how i reason things.
So, there is truth in what you said about bureaucrats avoiding questions due to their incompetence.

When truth is shown to be different from what i believe, i then re-adjust my understanding.
It's very simple. It's a short life with no time to waste.
That's a great attitude.

As we walk through life, we pick up all kinds of things (beliefs) and the ones we like most we put in our pockets. They can only hold so much, so at some point-- usually around the age of 40, a person's pockets are so full, that when they find something worth picking up and holding on to, they first have to discard something previously collected and thought to be of value.

Oh it's hard to set such precious things down in exchange for something new. Kudo's to you for your willingness. Had the Pharisees and experts in the law had your attitude Jesus would have lived to a ripe old age.
 

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I'm beginning to understand how your clock ticks. If and when someone agrees with you, in whole or in part ==== good fella.

If someone (gasp) sees things differently than you ===== evil!

I'll offer it as a direct question--- Who did you vote for?
Since you have already made up your mind on who I am ... I will err on the side of caution for now.
 

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Since you have already made up your mind on who I am ... I will err on the side of caution for now.
:) -- the jury is still out! No verdict has been pronounced yet-- which is why I said I was "beginning to understand." The picture is becoming clearer though. You are the only one who could change the opinion forming. Things like- the way you interact with others, and the way you interact with me... As long as you see disagreement as an attack, you'll stay stuck right where you are.

Folks can disagree without being disagreeable. I'm the nicest guy you'll ever disagree with! :cool: