The Gun Thread

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SovereignGrace

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Anything the 30-06 can do the 300 win mag can do better.

I couldn't decide, at first, which I wanted either. So I started with the 30-06. Then got a .308 then the 300 wm.

The 300 wm is the one I grab for all my hunting purposes. I keep the .308 because it is so accurate. The 30-06 is the back-up or extra for whoever doesn't have a hunting rifle... you know, big city folk....

My son has a .243 which has almost the same ballistics as the 300 wm. Not to try to make your decision even worse.... With less recoil than the .308 Just less knock down power and wind bucking.
I've heard the .300 has good knockdown power...from both ends...
 

Desdichado

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The only reason we don't get hired to sniff contraband is that UN Weapons inspectors and dogs have government protected jobs.

Leave it to a Presby to know where booze and bombs are in foreign countries...

Dadblasted liberals...:p
 

Desdichado

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Same reason Baptists are barred from entering eating competitions and waterboarding Islamist detainees.
 

Grandpa

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This looks just like the 30.06 I once owned. I sure miss it. Bolt action is the way to go, imo.


That looks just like my winchester model 70 that I have. Except I have a black scope...

That one doesn't quite look like a winchester though... Maybe its a ruger??? I don't own a ruger.. yet
 

Grandpa

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I've heard the .300 has good knockdown power...from both ends...
Yeah, after about 15-20 shots you really don't want to shoot it anymore. For about a month...

But if you only shoot it once or twice a year to take big game you don't even notice it.

Every deer that I have shot with the 300 win mag has gone down in a hurry. Most of the deer my son has shot with his .243 have run for about 50-60yds then give up.

Something to think about if you are deciding on a good hunting rifle.
 
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SovereignGrace

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Yeah, after about 15-20 shots you really don't want to shoot it anymore. For about a month...

But if you only shoot it once or twice a year to take big game you don't even notice it.
Did you see the youtube video where ppl were shooting a gun and it was knocking them down? Some took a step or two back, but some were on their keysters.
 

Grandpa

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Did you see the youtube video where ppl were shooting a gun and it was knocking them down? Some took a step or two back, but some were on their keysters.
I've seen a few of them where they are in a booth or something and the rifle all but knocks them out.
 

SovereignGrace

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Yeah, after about 15-20 shots you really don't want to shoot it anymore. For about a month...

But if you only shoot it once or twice a year to take big game you don't even notice it.

Every deer that I have shot with the 300 win mag has gone down in a hurry. Most of the deer my son has shot with his .243 have run for about 50-60yds then give up.

Something to think about if you are deciding on a good hunting rifle.
Stevens makes a polk stalk 12 ga(I guess they're still a company?) that would knock you from your senses. I was told they gave a fellow I know one who would shoot ANYTHING. A week later he gave it back.
 

SovereignGrace

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I've seen a few of them where they are in a booth or something and the rifle all but knocks them out.
Some were sitting and got knocked off their seat. Some had the earmuffs come off. Some had the googles removed. It was a funny sight to behold. What gun was that?!?!?
 

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You guys are tempting me to buy a gun. I got the missus a little .380 pistol a while back. That way she feels safer at home, seeing I works nights.

I'd like a .45 Mag but wifey would want a pistol she could use, too. That's probably too big for her. Between a .357 & .38, which is better?
My opinion? The 38 special. Depending on the gun, of course. The 357 is arguably the BEST self defense cartridge available, if you use the 125gr HP loading.... BUT... the muzzle blast and flash is borderline horrific. Recoil in most handguns is enough to make a second shot pretty slow (if you actually aim it :rolleyes:).

The 38 special is powerful enough to do the job, but mild enough that most women or "non-gun people" can shoot it with very little practice...

Ammo for the 38 is a little cheaper, as well. If you bought a 357, of course you could shoot 38 specials out of it.... exclusively, if you wished.... and you would always have the option of using the 357 if you so desired.

You can usually find 38 special revolvers a little cheaper than the comparable revolver in 357 magnum, but if that is not an issue, then I would recommend a 4" stainless revolver in 357 magnum, with the intention of shooting 38 specials in it most of the time.
 

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Stevens makes a polk stalk 12 ga(I guess they're still a company?) that would knock you from your senses. I was told they gave a fellow I know one who would shoot ANYTHING. A week later he gave it back.
I almost got a stevens instead of a savage. But they are harder to get even though they are less expensive...
 

Desdichado

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I would say getting a Glock 9mm is the superior Presbyterian choice, but my pastor and I never agree about guns.

Ever.

My opinion? The 38 special. Depending on the gun, of course. The 357 is arguably the BEST self defense cartridge available, if you use the 125gr HP loading.... BUT... the muzzle blast and flash is borderline horrific. Recoil in most handguns is enough to make a second shot pretty slow (if you actually aim it :rolleyes:).

The 38 special is powerful enough to do the job, but mild enough that most women or "non-gun people" can shoot it with very little practice...

Ammo for the 38 is a little cheaper, as well. If you bought a 357, of course you could shoot 38 specials out of it.... exclusively, if you wished.... and you would always have the option of using the 357 if you so desired.

You can usually find 38 special revolvers a little cheaper than the comparable revolver in 357 magnum, but if that is not an issue, then I would recommend a 4" stainless revolver in 357 magnum, with the intention of shooting 38 specials in it most of the time.
 

Grandpa

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Some were sitting and got knocked off their seat. Some had the earmuffs come off. Some had the googles removed. It was a funny sight to behold. What gun was that?!?!?
I'm not 100% sure. I thought it was some sort of elephant gun.
 

SovereignGrace

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My opinion? The 38 special. Depending on the gun, of course. The 357 is arguably the BEST self defense cartridge available, if you use the 125gr HP loading.... BUT... the muzzle blast and flash is borderline horrific. Recoil in most handguns is enough to make a second shot pretty slow (if you actually aim it :rolleyes:).

The 38 special is powerful enough to do the job, but mild enough that most women or "non-gun people" can shoot it with very little practice...

Ammo for the 38 is a little cheaper, as well. If you bought a 357, of course you could shoot 38 specials out of it.... exclusively, if you wished.... and you would always have the option of using the 357 if you so desired.

You can usually find 38 special revolvers a little cheaper than the comparable revolver in 357 magnum, but if that is not an issue, then I would recommend a 4" stainless revolver in 357 magnum, with the intention of shooting 38 specials in it most of the time.
If I do buy a gun, it will be a revolver. I am not that much of a fan of semi-automatic pistols. But then again, I have had very little experience with them, too.
 

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I've noticed that nobody in the gun thread seems concerned about Ninjas.


I'm sensing a complete lack of ninja fear.



I mean, fine, so maybe the average criminal isn't a super-stealthy Japanese assassin trained from birth in a creepy jungle ninja lair... but still... ya never know.
 

SovereignGrace

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I've noticed that nobody in the gun thread seems concerned about Ninjas.


I'm sensing a complete lack of ninja fear.



I mean, fine, so maybe the average criminal isn't a super-stealthy Japanese assassin trained from birth in a creepy jungle ninja lair... but still... ya never know.
Keep an eye out for them, okay? That way I can focus on gluttony and Brother Des can focus on drunkenness...
 

Grandpa

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If I do buy a gun, it will be a revolver. I am not that much of a fan of semi-automatic pistols. But then again, I have had very little experience with them, too.
Can't get 15 rounds into a revolver.
 

Desdichado

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Yeah Maxwel! And before you say anything, we'll slap a stereotypical sin on you. Just one that doesn't inhibit you from ninja watching.

Pride or wrath will do. Unnatural fornication has already been appropriated by the liberal Methodists I'm afraid.