The Gun Thread

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HealthAndHappiness

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Thank you H&H, that was good to see.
I appreciate the post on the Equalizer.
I'm actually surprised that isn't a common model name from other companies considering the Sam Colt quote. Anyhow, I will put that on my wish list for some day if they use a standard 1911 thumb safety. There's a low thumb version that acts as a leverage shelf and gets the thumb away from the slide. The option shown without the thumb safety looks like a good option too.
 

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I saw a comment that a guy purchased one for$500. Here's a review from Sootch. He did a more detailed measurement of the trigger pull. It looks like approx 4.5+/- pounds. He stripped it to show internals. Takedown is standard except for the recoil spring guide rod shape. It comes with all three mag sizes. Optics ready for addition of a red dot. One awesome feature is that a holosun can be cowitnessed with the standard sights without additional suppressor sights. VERY low profile and cost savings. It's hard to find those available for a lot of models. The thickness is around that of a 1911 which is the most important dimension for most carry styles. I'll post it for you and for Shittim in case you are interested.

Yes, Sootch does good reviews, for the most part.
I have seen them for $499... I still need to find one to get my grubby paws on, so I can see if I like the "feel" of it.

I handled a friend's Springfield Hellcat, and it wasn't too bad... I think they are similar in size.
I have found that my Glock 19 is the most "natural" feeling pistol so far... when executing a rapid draw from concealment, I never have to shift my grip, etc... it just fits into my hand naturally.

I normally wouldn't worry about rapid draw, but I am on the safety/security team at my church, and the situation could present itself there, and I wouldn't want to be fumbling around trying to get ready to respond.

Day to day carry is a Sig P938, which I like a lot, especially for size, but it does not draw as naturally as the Glock does. I have to shift my grip around a little to release the safety, which adds a little time to the response. It is more of a "deliberate draw" thing for me, which fits in with what uses I might have for it, day to day.
 

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I sure like the internal hammer and safety.
I am VERY fond of the S&W 5904, it is built like a tank, magazines are duty tough and pretty cheap and in the used bins frequently.
Bud's Gun shop has the Taurus for a a little over $200 right now-
 

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Yes, Sootch does good reviews, for the most part.
I have seen them for $499... I still need to find one to get my grubby paws on, so I can see if I like the "feel" of it.

I handled a friend's Springfield Hellcat, and it wasn't too bad... I think they are similar in size.
I have found that my Glock 19 is the most "natural" feeling pistol so far... when executing a rapid draw from concealment, I never have to shift my grip, etc... it just fits into my hand naturally.

I normally wouldn't worry about rapid draw, but I am on the safety/security team at my church, and the situation could present itself there, and I wouldn't want to be fumbling around trying to get ready to respond.

Day to day carry is a Sig P938, which I like a lot, especially for size, but it does not draw as naturally as the Glock does. I have to shift my grip around a little to release the safety, which adds a little time to the response. It is more of a "deliberate draw" thing for me, which fits in with what uses I might have for it, day to day.
Security at a church is an honorable ministry. I used to lead the ushers before the church shootings were in the news. We were doing security to a degree as part of our responsibilities. Nothing much happened, other than a guy who lived next door to the church stormed in during a couple services to announce that someone parked in front of his driveway. He had a history of shooting a family member of his.


I was wondering if there's much problem transitioning from the Glock grip angle to Sig? If you don't, then this S&W should work . I think they are the same. The Sig 938 looks like a high quality 1911. That's a fine weapon. Sig knows how to make them small, accurate AND reliable. I personally am not concerned about a single stack capacity in that role. If it has 7 round mags, two thin spares provide 22 altogether. They are probably more comfortable to carry than most doubles if I would guess. We now have a couple more options that are changing that issue. I think that's a good thing.

What features about the S&W do you like?
 

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I sure like the internal hammer and safety.
I am VERY fond of the S&W 5904, it is built like a tank, magazines are duty tough and pretty cheap and in the used bins frequently.
Bud's Gun shop has the Taurus for a a little over $200 right now-
That's a good deal!
It's nice that someone can buy a reliable handgun at a fair price.

5904, Known for accuracy and fits most hands like a glove. Is yours the older vintage with the square front trigger guard or the rounded checkered?
 

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What features about the S&W do you like?
I like the grip safety/easy cock mechanism. I also like the internal hammer, which apparently gives it a pretty nice single action trigger pull. I'm sure it's not as crisp as a Ruger or Smith revolver, but not much is.... certainly not striker fired pistols. This one might be close, and it might be "smoothable"...
I also like the increased capacity, for a "semi-duty gun"
The larger, deeper grooves for gripping the slide are nice, as well....
I guess I like nearly everything about it... sounds as if I'm talking myself into one, doesn't it? :LOL:
 

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Sig knows how to make them small, accurate AND reliable. I personally am not concerned about a single stack capacity in that role.
Yes, it is a very nice pistol. It hasn't malfunctioned once. I got the SAS version, with rounded edges/corners, so it's really easy to carry. I've probably only put around 500+ rounds through it, but it just works.
 

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That's a good deal!
It's nice that someone can buy a reliable handgun at a fair price.

5904, Known for accuracy and fits most hands like a glove. Is yours the older vintage with the square front trigger guard or the rounded checkered?
square front trigger guard
 

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Yes, it is a very nice pistol. It hasn't malfunctioned once. I got the SAS version, with rounded edges/corners, so it's really easy to carry. I've probably only put around 500+ rounds through it, but it just works.
Sweet. One if the best extra features to do to the 1911 is to dehorn/ round off the edges. 👍I didn't know they made a model like that straight from the factory.
 

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I like the grip safety/easy cock mechanism. I also like the internal hammer, which apparently gives it a pretty nice single action trigger pull. I'm sure it's not as crisp as a Ruger or Smith revolver, but not much is.... certainly not striker fired pistols. This one might be close, and it might be "smoothable"...
I also like the increased capacity, for a "semi-duty gun"
The larger, deeper grooves for gripping the slide are nice, as well....
I guess I like nearly everything about it... sounds as if I'm talking myself into one, doesn't it? :LOL:
I was thinking the exact same thing.
A very careful polish, without rounding or changing edges/ angles, can make a good trigger pull very special. The pull weight is already good for me at under 5#.
That might be one feature that makes me like it a tiny bit // more than the Sig 365 xl.
Sigs have a special place in my heart though.
 

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square front trigger guard
That just LOOKS good. ☕🙂👍
I miss those square trigger guards on metal guns. You know that style was popularized for a time by a couple gun smiths that made it a custom feature for competition. S&W decided to add it as a design for that time as did Sig with their 225. Sig has a variety of attractive models as does S&W, but that vintage is the prettiest IMHO . 😙👍
 

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square front trigger guard
Your S&W is a keeper.
Here's another similar design by Sig.
This particular model was the lower cost version issued to German police with the oddly slotted hammer. They could achieve smooth DA pulls 7-8# and crisp SA light follow ups reliably with all hps... civilian version.
 

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Sweet. One if the best extra features to do to the 1911 is to dehorn/ round off the edges. 👍I didn't know they made a model like that straight from the factory.
Yes... this is it, right after I got it. I replaced these original grips with some stippled ebony ones...
SAS stands for Sig Anti-Snag.... it works.

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