The hadron collider

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Eli1

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Entirely predictable if not expected......;):whistle:

Invest 1000 hours or so as an introductory study of these topics and get back to me.
I don’t understand what this means or what you’re trying to say.
 

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it is cool to learn, and there are amazing things.

Frankly, I think it's junk science, and we're seeing the results of a fairly "simple" bit of lack of control. But it keeps people busy and playing in their labs, so I guess that's fine.

Nobody has refined the tools that are creating the photons themselves, so there is no real control over what the photons are doing as they spin out of the lasers, or what happens to the photons as they pass the various lenses and mirrors. We can "direct" them, but we don't actually fathom what is happening at the sub-atomic level of the atoms that are being excited in the laser in the first place, nor how they are being effected by the densities of the lenses. Our understanding of standing electrical fields is infantile, and nearly nobody makes efforts to ground all the equipment involved. And lets say they did, as we're dealing with sub-atomic particles, even if you grounded 1 side of a 3 inch board, the distance between the slit and the ground line would be universe huge compared to the size of the photon as particle, even though to us the discharge would be nearly instant. The photon, of course, would have been long gone before the reset of ground level.

Until that source, that lens, and those mirrors are a single layer of atoms, and they are bouncing and rotating in perfect harmony, and you can keep them in that condition while they expel, split, or reflect photons, there's gonna be forces at work from the directional differences of each photon, and any effect they have on gas between, or likely even each other in vacuum. I'd venture these interference patterns also shift quite routinely based on Hertz input to the emitters? Dunno, haven't spent time on it, because it looks like reasons to fund thought experiments, instead of tools in use.

Maybe, let's admit, there is a difference because we're observing, ok? But if we are factual, I can say that a 10pound chicken weighs 195 pounds when I stand on the scale with it, and this is also, obviously half-truth, as "being changed by the observer." But that's just what we have to accept with Quantum-Physics?

More likely there's a simple background energy shift from the creator of the experiment, the observer, and his tools.

Even more likely the double-slit problem has to do with the classical electrical/gravitational forces as they are influenced by an item with a hole in the center, vs two holes, and being charged by the passing photons and creating "standing waves" in the slit-board, which in turn "stabilize" the flight path of the "photon" into "discernable" patterns.
Pretty much yea. It is exceedingly easy to create a flawed experiment despite the best intentions.....and the results are junk.
 

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Quantum experiments with entangled photons win the 2022 Nobel Prize in physics
Physicists Alain Aspect, John Clauser and Anton Zeilinger laid the groundwork for quantum technology

Tests of quantum weirdness and its potential real-world applications have been recognized with the 2022 Nobel Prize in physics.
At some level we are all subject to quantum rules that even Albert Einstein struggled to come to terms with. For the most part, these rules play out behind the scenes in transistors that make up computer chips, lasers and even in the chemistry of atoms and molecules in materials all around us. Applications that stem from this year’s Nobel Prize take advantage of quantum features at larger scales. They include absolutely secure communications and quantum computers that may eventually solve problems that no conceivable conventional computer could complete in the lifetime of the universe.

The experiments of Zeilinger, of the University of Vienna, that rely on that quantum behavior include demonstrations of communications, absolutely secure encryption and components crucial for quantum computers. He pioneered another, widely misunderstood, application — quantum teleportation. Unlike the teleportation of people and objects in science fiction, the effect involves the perfect transmission of information about a quantum object from one place to another.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/physics-nobel-prize-2022-quantum-entanglement-tech
 
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Nah.......the Higgs boson is bogus. Does not exist. Same goes for "photons" and "electrons".

Find out how they discovered this thing.......quite absurd really. They theorized a range of electron volts where a particle should exist (125-127 Gev/c2) and presto they found one. :rolleyes:

Anyhoo......an electron is a unit of charge. It is used for calculation purposes in equations. J.J. Thomson (who "discovered" them) stated clearly they did not exist.

BTW.....there are no electron particles traveling through wires ROFL Conducting wires are reflector waveguides nothing more nothing less. The aether field perturbation travels on the outside of the wires. To understand legit electrical theory read Charles Proteus Steinmetz. When he talked about "stirring up the aether" he knew exactly what he was talking about.

And astronomers to not open purge valves to drain the photons from their telescopes. The whole concept of particles is truly absurd.

Gravity is nothing more than non-point source dielectric acceleration. It is precisely the same thing as magnetism. The entire physical universe is predicated upon magnetism. Magnetism is the one and only force. Everything else is a derivative. They're looking for unified force and that is it. It is not mediated by particles it has nothing to do with particles there are no particles.

Standard model physics is a disaster at this point. Probably by design. I don't think God is allowing fallen depraved humans to understand the real nature of the creation.

You might want to study something known as "counterspace". Be prepared for a "shock".

Practically all standard model theory is absurdly incorrect. For example......all stars, solar systems and galaxies are rapidly formed by Z-pinch plasma phenomenon. Gravity and dust theores are preposterous. All stars are electric phenomenon not nuclear furnaces. Observational evidence is overwhelmingly conclusive on this matter.

Sorry for the rambling.......its a big topic.
https://christianchat.com/threads/i-didnt-know-that.207670/post-4934559
 
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it is cool to learn, and there are amazing things.

Frankly, I think it's junk science, and we're seeing the results of a fairly "simple" bit of lack of control. But it keeps people busy and playing in their labs, so I guess that's fine.

Nobody has refined the tools that are creating the photons themselves, so there is no real control over what the photons are doing as they spin out of the lasers, or what happens to the photons as they pass the various lenses and mirrors. We can "direct" them, but we don't actually fathom what is happening at the sub-atomic level of the atoms that are being excited in the laser in the first place, nor how they are being effected by the densities of the lenses. Our understanding of standing electrical fields is infantile, and nearly nobody makes efforts to ground all the equipment involved. And lets say they did, as we're dealing with sub-atomic particles, even if you grounded 1 side of a 3 inch board, the distance between the slit and the ground line would be universe huge compared to the size of the photon as particle, even though to us the discharge would be nearly instant. The photon, of course, would have been long gone before the reset of ground level.

Until that source, that lens, and those mirrors are a single layer of atoms, and they are bouncing and rotating in perfect harmony, and you can keep them in that condition while they expel, split, or reflect photons, there's gonna be forces at work from the directional differences of each photon, and any effect they have on gas between, or likely even each other in vacuum. I'd venture these interference patterns also shift quite routinely based on Hertz input to the emitters? Dunno, haven't spent time on it, because it looks like reasons to fund thought experiments, instead of tools in use.

Maybe, let's admit, there is a difference because we're observing, ok? But if we are factual, I can say that a 10pound chicken weighs 195 pounds when I stand on the scale with it, and this is also, obviously half-truth, as "being changed by the observer." But that's just what we have to accept with Quantum-Physics?

More likely there's a simple background energy shift from the creator of the experiment, the observer, and his tools.

Even more likely the double-slit problem has to do with the classical electrical/gravitational forces as they are influenced by an item with a hole in the center, vs two holes, and being charged by the passing photons and creating "standing waves" in the slit-board, which in turn "stabilize" the flight path of the "photon" into "discernable" patterns.
https://christianchat.com/threads/i-didnt-know-that.207670/post-4934559
 
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Quantum experiments with entangled photons win the 2022 Nobel Prize in physics
Physicists Alain Aspect, John Clauser and Anton Zeilinger laid the groundwork for quantum technology

Tests of quantum weirdness and its potential real-world applications have been recognized with the 2022 Nobel Prize in physics.
At some level we are all subject to quantum rules that even Albert Einstein struggled to come to terms with. For the most part, these rules play out behind the scenes in transistors that make up computer chips, lasers and even in the chemistry of atoms and molecules in materials all around us. Applications that stem from this year’s Nobel Prize take advantage of quantum features at larger scales. They include absolutely secure communications and quantum computers that may eventually solve problems that no conceivable conventional computer could complete in the lifetime of the universe.

The experiments of Zeilinger, of the University of Vienna, that rely on that quantum behavior include demonstrations of communications, absolutely secure encryption and components crucial for quantum computers. He pioneered another, widely misunderstood, application — quantum teleportation. Unlike the teleportation of people and objects in science fiction, the effect involves the perfect transmission of information about a quantum object from one place to another.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/physics-nobel-prize-2022-quantum-entanglement-tech
https://christianchat.com/threads/i-didnt-know-that.207670/post-4934559
 
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A couple of other points:

-the so-called speed of light is nothing more than the rate of induction through the aether

-the fact that light "speeds up" after exiting a glass prism utterly destroys many of the most cherished (erroneous) scientific theories

-two bodies (like the earth and the moon) are NOT attracted to "each other" by "gravity". Each body is attracted to a null point. This point is in COUNTERSPACE, aka the dielectric "sink"......a region of infinite inertia and capacitance.

Go on YouTube and study the ferrocell/dielectric/counterspace.
Reads like you enjoy physics. Have you read Hennig Genz, 'Nothingness' . I suggested to someone in the Astrophysics field that the Michelson/Morley experiment needs to be revisited in view of the 'search' for dark matter and dark energy. Sounds like you are fixed on some 'ideas' regarding' physics. I am open minded and only casually interested but would appreciate your reply on a thread I started at this link https://christianchat.com/miscellan...e-gold-like-unto-clear-glass-yea-sure.207861/
 
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Stephen Hawking's Fears About Artificial Intellegence


Stephen Hawking giving talk© Lintao Zhang/Getty Images
While Stephen Hawking was a proponent of using technology to maintain the perpetuation of the human race, he also believed that technology, if advanced far enough, could also pose a major threat to humanity. Specifically, Hawking was worried about A.I., artificial intelligence, and had been sounding the alarm about its potential danger for some time, like when he gave a talk at Centre for the Future of Intelligence at Cambridge University in 2014, saying "In the future, A.I. could develop a will of its own — a will that is in conflict with ours. The rise of powerful A.I. will be either the best or the worst thing ever to happen to humanity. We do not yet know which."
 

Lynx

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Oh I don't think it'll be that bad...

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Lynx

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But the sun is a lot closer than they realise... When those hit the firmament, there will be nuclear fallout all over! ;-)
Good. Finally all those apocalypse bunkers will get some use.

Have to clear a lot of spiders out of them though... I hope we have at least one day of advance notice.
 

Eli1

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I dunno … this scenario could be 50/50
 
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Good. Finally all those apocalypse bunkers will get some use.

Have to clear a lot of spiders out of them though... I hope we have at least one day of advance notice.