What are UFOs to you?

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Eli1

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If you are seeing the governments of the world "encounter intelligent beings from another planet" and they are attempting to communicate with them..........then you may have missed the rapture of the Church.

Don't dwell on that situation. IMO it will probably be part of the end-time deception. Some friendly advice.
Thank you for the advice but I’m not going to worship them or anything like that. In fact, I’d like to introduce them to Christ too.
 

cv5

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Thank you for the advice but I’m not going to worship them or anything like that. In fact, I’d like to introduce them to Christ too.
Being demonic.....they already know Jesus. As the Scriptures propound many times over.

Beware this demonic UFO hoax.....
 

Eli1

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Being demonic.....they already know Jesus. As the Scriptures propound many times over.

Beware this demonic UFO hoax.....
Ah okay, so you think they’re demonic.
‘Just curious, how do you get that from the Bible?
 

cv5

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Ah okay, so you think they’re demonic.
‘Just curious, how do you get that from the Bible?
How do you get the notion of "whatever-they-are" as being friendly out of the Bible?

BTW...I have read hundreds if not thousands of UFO/entity encounter reports. Deception (about who they are and where they come from) and demonic activity (endless reports of mating with humans) are rampant and consistent themes.....this I can tell you. Among many other horrors too numerous to list.

Make no mistake.......these thing are from the pit.
 

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How do you get the notion of "whatever-they-are" as being friendly out of the Bible?

BTW...I have read hundreds if not thousands of UFO/entity encounter reports. Deception (about who they are and where they come from) and demonic activity (endless reports of mating with humans) are rampant and consistent themes.....this I can tell you. Among many other horrors too numerous to list.

These thing are from the pit.
all these thing just keep people's attention away from Jesus.

the enemy does not care what one worships as long as they are not worshiping Jesus.
 

Eli1

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How do you get the notion of "whatever-they-are" as being friendly out of the Bible?

BTW...I have read hundreds if not thousands of UFO/entity encounter reports. Deception (about who they are and where they come from) and demonic activity (endless reports of mating with humans) are rampant and consistent themes.....this I can tell you. Among many other horrors too numerous to list.

Make no mistake.......these thing are from the pit.
I dont get that they are friendly from the Bible . I just don’t know what they are that’s all.
 

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I haven't studied these issues in any great detail, and perhaps others have already touched on the same points in this thread, but I'll just try to add my 2 cents.

It's important to distinguish multiple issues that tend to be lumped together:

1. Is there intelligent life in the universe outside the earth?
I see no clear reason why God could not have created life elsewhere (but also no strong reason to think he would have). Some theological puzzles might arise from the existence of extraterrestial creatures, but I don't think they would be unsolvable. And especially if such creatures never come to contact with humans, there's no reason to assume that it would necessarily be mentioned in the Bible.

2. What are the "unidentified flying objects"?
My guess is that the vast majority of such sightings are explicable by more ordinary phenomena (weather balloons, meteors, pranks and hoaxes, etc). I think Dr Hugh Ross also stated that there's a correlation between UFO sightings and the hours of day during which people tend to consume more alcohol. It's also easy to imagine that some secret military technology could be behind some sightings. Even the now well-known F-35 fighters look kind of UFO-like from certain points of view (try Google image search and see if there are pictures that someone could mistake for a UFO in a slightly confused and panicked state). If the US military is currently publicizing reports of "inexplicable" observations, that could easily be a cover to their own secret technology.

3. What's the nature of "alien abduction" experiences?
If some of these encounters are anything other than some kind of delusions, mixing up nightmares with reality, or false memories recovered under hypnosis, I would think the demonic explanation is more likely than "visitors from outer space" explanation. Apparently such encounters often involve a clearly anti-Christian message being promoted by the alien beings. Also if Dr Hugh Ross is correct, there is a strong correlation between occultic practices and such experiences.
 

Eli1

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I haven't studied these issues in any great detail, and perhaps others have already touched on the same points in this thread, but I'll just try to add my 2 cents.

It's important to distinguish multiple issues that tend to be lumped together:

1. Is there intelligent life in the universe outside the earth?
I see no clear reason why God could not have created life elsewhere (but also no strong reason to think he would have). Some theological puzzles might arise from the existence of extraterrestial creatures, but I don't think they would be unsolvable. And especially if such creatures never come to contact with humans, there's no reason to assume that it would necessarily be mentioned in the Bible.

2. What are the "unidentified flying objects"?
My guess is that the vast majority of such sightings are explicable by more ordinary phenomena (weather balloons, meteors, pranks and hoaxes, etc). I think Dr Hugh Ross also stated that there's a correlation between UFO sightings and the hours of day during which people tend to consume more alcohol. It's also easy to imagine that some secret military technology could be behind some sightings. Even the now well-known F-35 fighters look kind of UFO-like from certain points of view (try Google image search and see if there are pictures that someone could mistake for a UFO in a slightly confused and panicked state). If the US military is currently publicizing reports of "inexplicable" observations, that could easily be a cover to their own secret technology.

3. What's the nature of "alien abduction" experiences?
If some of these encounters are anything other than some kind of delusions, mixing up nightmares with reality, or false memories recovered under hypnosis, I would think the demonic explanation is more likely than "visitors from outer space" explanation. Apparently such encounters often involve a clearly anti-Christian message being promoted by the alien beings. Also if Dr Hugh Ross is correct, there is a strong correlation between occultic practices and such experiences.
Thank you for adding some clarity into this post.
‘On my initial post I have narrowed down this phenomenon to be more Materialistic based on history of observing these objects since ancient times all the way to the newly released videos from the pentagon.
I am leaving out abductions and everything else in between.
This touches more on your point number 2. After we sort out the 90% of the Explainable cases such as weather balloons etc, we are left with unexplainable cases.
 

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How do you get the notion of "whatever-they-are" as being friendly out of the Bible?

BTW...I have read hundreds if not thousands of UFO/entity encounter reports. Deception (about who they are and where they come from) and demonic activity (endless reports of mating with humans) are rampant and consistent themes.....this I can tell you. Among many other horrors too numerous to list.

Make no mistake.......these thing are from the pit.
The part about mating with humans probably came from the origin of science fiction magazines. Playboy used to carry SF stories - yes some people did used to read them for the articles, or rather for the stories.

Rumor mills and urban legends probably did the rest.
 

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Apparently such encounters often involve a clearly anti-Christian message being promoted by the alien beings. Also if Dr Hugh Ross is correct, there is a strong correlation between occultic practices and such experiences.
Absolutely correct.
 

cv5

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The part about mating with humans probably came from the origin of science fiction magazines. Playboy used to carry SF stories - yes some people did used to read them for the articles, or rather for the stories.

Rumor mills and urban legends probably did the rest.
Hardly. This is the testimony of the witnesses themselves. Sexual abuse, hybridization and rape is a consistent theme.
 

Lynx

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Hardly. This is the testimony of the witnesses themselves. Sexual abuse, hybridization and rape is a consistent theme.
Now it sounds like you're talking about incubi and succubi - which were always handy excuses for kids when they fooled around and got pregnant.
 
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99% are fake's, hoaxes etc or wrongly identifying natural phenomena. The final % seems to be advanced weapon systems and drones.
 
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Agree. But there is more to it than that IMO. Some of this content is pretty crazy.

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It's possible. But it would certainly serve governmental interests to keep the public seeing UFO's and not stealth craft or advanced drones. The sea of disinformation is so vast even if something did leak or get captured on film, it would be dismissed as false even by other governments. The foo fighters from WW2 do however raise some other questions.
 

cv5

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99% are fake's, hoaxes etc or wrongly identifying natural phenomena. The final % seems to be advanced weapon systems and drones.
You see....the energy output required for the apparent luminosity of some of these UFO's is far beyond any known technology. Estimates have been made and its incredible. But really one needs to conduct an analysis of actual reports to get a handle on the situation.

There is a consistent theme I can tell you that. Intimidation, deception, and much much worse. Do not be deceived.....this phenomenon is from the pit.

Lying signs and wonders are specific end-time warnings given by Jesus Himself. And no doubt in my mind that is exactly what this UFO business is all about.
 

cv5

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It's possible. But it would certainly serve governmental interests to keep the public seeing UFO's and not stealth craft or advanced drones. The sea of disinformation is so vast even if something did leak or get captured on film, it would be dismissed as false even by other governments. The foo fighters from WW2 do however raise some other questions.
Yes. Absolutely no doubt the various world gov'ts are complicit. One way or another.
 

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It's possible. But it would certainly serve governmental interests to keep the public seeing UFO's and not stealth craft or advanced drones. The sea of disinformation is so vast even if something did leak or get captured on film, it would be dismissed as false even by other governments. The foo fighters from WW2 do however raise some other questions.
It's no accident that there's an entirely new branch of the US military. I will expect that there will be plenty of more sightings of UFOs as billion$ are spent on them.