What I escaped....

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mailmandan

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This picture is calling my name. :cool:

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How about this one? The pool is murder to keep clean because of all the birds. (That's why all the chairs are upside down.)
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Yikes. The Church of Christ in Australia must be different. I've attended a few times and there were plenty of instruments and there was nothing rigid about their church culture. And there was lots of smiling and laughter and praise.
 
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Yikes. The Church of Christ in Australia must be different. I've attended a few times and there were plenty of instruments and there was nothing rigid about their church culture. And there was lots of smiling and laughter and praise.
They are good people here, too. My best friend that I met 40 years ago is still CoC. But, they do have some unwavering views about "church."
 

mailmandan

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Although I still love A Capella singing, (It can be absolutely beautiful.), their stilted and rigid manner is almost laughable to watch.
Now getting back to the OP. I hear people in the CoC say that nowhere is it recorded that anyone on this earth in the first century church used musical instruments...and those who do today add it to their own will-worship. :rolleyes: Yet...

In the Old Testament, we read in 2 Chronicles 5:11-14 - And it came to pass when the priests came out of the Most Holy Place (for all the priests who were present had sanctified themselves, without keeping to their divisions), and the Levites who were the singers, all those of Asaph and Heman and Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, stood at the east end of the altar, clothed in white linen, having cymbals, stringed instruments and harps, and with them one hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets-- indeed it came to pass, when the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the Lord, and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of music, and praised the Lord, saying: "For He is good, For His mercy endures forever.."

Ephesians 5:19 says "..speaking to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.." and correspondingly Colossians 3:16 says to, "..admonish one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs." The word "psalm" in the Greek dictionary, definition (#5568): "A set piece of music, i.e. a sacred ode (accompanied with the voice, harp, or other instrument)." The root word of psalm is "psallo" which means to means "to twitch, twang or pluck," such as pluck a string of a musical instrument."

Even in the perfect worship of heaven they use harps to aid their praise to God - And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth (Revelation 14:2-3).
 
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......I couldn't even watch this thing in its entirety.
 
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Now getting back to the OP. I hear people in the CoC say that nowhere is it recorded that anyone on this earth in the first century church used musical instruments...and those who do today add it to their own will-worship. :rolleyes: Yet...

In the Old Testament, we read in 2 Chronicles 5:11-14 - And it came to pass when the priests came out of the Most Holy Place (for all the priests who were present had sanctified themselves, without keeping to their divisions), and the Levites who were the singers, all those of Asaph and Heman and Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, stood at the east end of the altar, clothed in white linen, having cymbals, stringed instruments and harps, and with them one hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets-- indeed it came to pass, when the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the Lord, and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of music, and praised the Lord, saying: "For He is good, For His mercy endures forever.."

Ephesians 5:19 says "..speaking to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.." and correspondingly Colossians 3:16 says to, "..admonish one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs." The word "psalm" in the Greek dictionary, definition (#5568): "A set piece of music, i.e. a sacred ode (accompanied with the voice, harp, or other instrument)." The root word of psalm is "psallo" which means to means "to twitch, twang or pluck," such as pluck a string of a musical instrument."

Even in the perfect worship of heaven they use harps to aid their praise to God - And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth (Revelation 14:2-3).
Well, you can kind of understand some of it when you look at how hung up many of us get on what we think are the correct and proper ways to "do" worship in our own congregations.
 
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This is the frightening "denomination" I (thankfully) left 30 some years ago. They actually considered things like this to be of paramount importance.... and would waste an entire Sunday sermon pushing this stuff.
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Do the congregation actually enjoy this?
 
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Do the congregation actually enjoy this?
I am being serious here.... They honestly do believe that enduring stuff like this somehow proves their true righteousness.

To most of them it really is wrong to have "enjoyed" a service.
 

mailmandan

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I am being serious here.... They honestly do believe that enduring stuff like this somehow proves their true righteousness.

To most of them it really is wrong to have "enjoyed" a service.
They Sound like Pharisees.