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I may check out a wesleyan church this morning..first time it will be..really interested..
as for right now, i have been going to a church called Real life church, its a foursquare church..
though i myself am not a foursquare member or am charismatic..but i like/dig the grace/love message.
as for right now, i have been going to a church called Real life church, its a foursquare church..
though i myself am not a foursquare member or am charismatic..but i like/dig the grace/love message.
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Church of God, Body of Christ, Bride, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Israel of God, honestly it got many names according to the Scriptures. I like Assembly of the Nazarene, aint a biblical title but I can work it lol
I'm not of a Denomination/System/Sect, I can tell you that. He led me out of Baptist denomination and He led me out of Pentecostal denomination. I'm not a member of an organization with a building, I'm not subjected to an accountability of a proclaimed pastor, I'm not forced to give a tenth of my paycheck, I'm not led to sit on an uncomfortable pew 3 hours a week to hear some guy teach something from his own understanding or biasness.
I'm not going anywhere today, I don't ever go anywhere on Sundays or Wednesdays. I asked for that, He gave me that, and I was humbly corrected by what I asked. I personally have never seen a what is called Church that is truly a Church of the LORD, I have not, it even got to a point of depression where I wanted to give up finding one. I don't even know anyone in my town, or even in my old town, that by discernment I could sincerely say truly knows the Lord. I can say, though, He has sent people to me who has greatly enriched me, admonished me, encouraged me, rebuked me, and corrected me in the Spirit of God by truth and love, and I can praise Him for that. When I'm ready to walk, I don't want to repeat what I've seen.
I can't judge any church that is listed here, I can say that I have not found a true one yet, so I'd be skeptical if you said yours was. The only pastor I have is the Good Pastor, and the only true brother I have here is my Older Brother at the Right Hand. He has fed me and led me as a Shepherd, and He has encouraged me and admonished me and rebuked me as a Brother, and I wouldn't have it any other way
I'm not of a Denomination/System/Sect, I can tell you that. He led me out of Baptist denomination and He led me out of Pentecostal denomination. I'm not a member of an organization with a building, I'm not subjected to an accountability of a proclaimed pastor, I'm not forced to give a tenth of my paycheck, I'm not led to sit on an uncomfortable pew 3 hours a week to hear some guy teach something from his own understanding or biasness.
I'm not going anywhere today, I don't ever go anywhere on Sundays or Wednesdays. I asked for that, He gave me that, and I was humbly corrected by what I asked. I personally have never seen a what is called Church that is truly a Church of the LORD, I have not, it even got to a point of depression where I wanted to give up finding one. I don't even know anyone in my town, or even in my old town, that by discernment I could sincerely say truly knows the Lord. I can say, though, He has sent people to me who has greatly enriched me, admonished me, encouraged me, rebuked me, and corrected me in the Spirit of God by truth and love, and I can praise Him for that. When I'm ready to walk, I don't want to repeat what I've seen.
I can't judge any church that is listed here, I can say that I have not found a true one yet, so I'd be skeptical if you said yours was. The only pastor I have is the Good Pastor, and the only true brother I have here is my Older Brother at the Right Hand. He has fed me and led me as a Shepherd, and He has encouraged me and admonished me and rebuked me as a Brother, and I wouldn't have it any other way
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=Philos;731613]Church of God, Body of Christ, Bride, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Israel of God, honestly it got many names according to the Scriptures. I like Assembly of the Nazarene, aint a biblical title but I can work it lol
I'm not of a Denomination/System/Sect, I can tell you that. He led me out of Baptist denomination and He led me out of Pentecostal denomination. I'm not a member of an organization with a building, I'm not subjected to an accountability of a proclaimed pastor, I'm not forced to give a tenth of my paycheck, I'm not led to sit on an uncomfortable pew 3 hours a week to hear some guy teach something from his own understanding or biasness.
I'm not going anywhere today, I don't ever go anywhere on Sundays or Wednesdays. I asked for that, He gave me that, and I was humbly corrected by what I asked. I personally have never seen a what is called Church that is truly a Church of the LORD, I have not, it even got to a point of depression where I wanted to give up finding one. I don't even know anyone in my town, or even in my old town, that by discernment I could sincerely say truly knows the Lord. I can say, though, He has sent people to me who has greatly enriched me, admonished me, encouraged me, rebuked me, and corrected me in the Spirit of God by truth and love, and I can praise Him for that. When I'm ready to walk, I don't want to repeat what I've seen.
I can't judge any church that is listed here, I can say that I have not found a true one yet, so I'd be skeptical if you said yours was. The only pastor I have is the Good Pastor, and the only true brother I have here is my Older Brother at the Right Hand. He has fed me and led me as a Shepherd, and He has encouraged me and admonished me and rebuked me as a Brother, and I wouldn't have it any other way[/quote]
Thanx for sharing i really love and am deeply touched by your reply bee blesse allways amen,...............
I'm not of a Denomination/System/Sect, I can tell you that. He led me out of Baptist denomination and He led me out of Pentecostal denomination. I'm not a member of an organization with a building, I'm not subjected to an accountability of a proclaimed pastor, I'm not forced to give a tenth of my paycheck, I'm not led to sit on an uncomfortable pew 3 hours a week to hear some guy teach something from his own understanding or biasness.
I'm not going anywhere today, I don't ever go anywhere on Sundays or Wednesdays. I asked for that, He gave me that, and I was humbly corrected by what I asked. I personally have never seen a what is called Church that is truly a Church of the LORD, I have not, it even got to a point of depression where I wanted to give up finding one. I don't even know anyone in my town, or even in my old town, that by discernment I could sincerely say truly knows the Lord. I can say, though, He has sent people to me who has greatly enriched me, admonished me, encouraged me, rebuked me, and corrected me in the Spirit of God by truth and love, and I can praise Him for that. When I'm ready to walk, I don't want to repeat what I've seen.
I can't judge any church that is listed here, I can say that I have not found a true one yet, so I'd be skeptical if you said yours was. The only pastor I have is the Good Pastor, and the only true brother I have here is my Older Brother at the Right Hand. He has fed me and led me as a Shepherd, and He has encouraged me and admonished me and rebuked me as a Brother, and I wouldn't have it any other way
[/quote]Thanx for sharing i really love and am deeply touched by your reply bee blesse allways amen,...............
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No not every church is heresy,not at all,we al nedd a Spiritual Faith Community i have 3 of them my Parish Church,My Monastary Faith Community and My Christian Chat Faith Community,Be Blessed AllWaYs Amen.I will Pray 4 You to Have a Faith Community............amen...........
=Brian0;731538]Body of Christ, Brethren, Hebrew, etc, etc...call my church what you will.
But any denomination is heresy. And this includes non-denominational Churches. Non-Denom is a denomination, or heresy itself.[/quote]
=Brian0;731538]Body of Christ, Brethren, Hebrew, etc, etc...call my church what you will.
But any denomination is heresy. And this includes non-denominational Churches. Non-Denom is a denomination, or heresy itself.[/quote]
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i said denomination. Denomination is a division or schism in the Body/Ecclesia/Church. Sectarianism/Denominationalism/Phariseeism is Heresy.
de·nom·i·na·tion - a religious grouping within a faith that has its own system of organization
Sect - religious denomination: a denomination of a larger religious group
her·e·sy - an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching, especially one that is officially condemned by a religious authority
officially condemned by what religious authority? Sure not the Pope nor a Pastor, less they line up with the Scriptures. The Bible should be our religious authority on matters of heresy.
Jesus the prophets and the apostles taught against heresy/divisions/seperatists and the unrighteousness involved in it.
the first 3 chapters of 1st Corinthians is reproof from Paul concerning Heresy.
the actual greek meaning of the english word heretick is schismatic
schism - division in religious denomination: a major split within an established religious denomination, usually on the grounds of differences in belief or practice, leading to the setting up of a separate breakaway organization, or the offense of causing such a split
This is what occurs when people 'choose" what they want as opposed to what GOD wants.
a sad truth, but a truth non the less.
blessings.
i said denomination. Denomination is a division or schism in the Body/Ecclesia/Church. Sectarianism/Denominationalism/Phariseeism is Heresy.
de·nom·i·na·tion - a religious grouping within a faith that has its own system of organization
Sect - religious denomination: a denomination of a larger religious group
her·e·sy - an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching, especially one that is officially condemned by a religious authority
officially condemned by what religious authority? Sure not the Pope nor a Pastor, less they line up with the Scriptures. The Bible should be our religious authority on matters of heresy.
Jesus the prophets and the apostles taught against heresy/divisions/seperatists and the unrighteousness involved in it.
the first 3 chapters of 1st Corinthians is reproof from Paul concerning Heresy.
the actual greek meaning of the english word heretick is schismatic
schism - division in religious denomination: a major split within an established religious denomination, usually on the grounds of differences in belief or practice, leading to the setting up of a separate breakaway organization, or the offense of causing such a split
This is what occurs when people 'choose" what they want as opposed to what GOD wants.
a sad truth, but a truth non the less.
blessings.
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I agree, while i do not truly believe it can be found in scripture that denominations were God's original plan, to say they are not able to be used of God is wrong..God uses people all day, who are flawed..who may miss it from time to time..he will of course use denominations as well. I understand to a point what that Philos guy was saying, but to say you are not accountable to any man? That's a bit scary man, we all need each other..maybe you've been hurt, so have i but that does not mean you throw the baby with the bathwater out and forsake the assembling of yourselves together as some already have, Hebrews 10:25..
you need fellowship..if you are desiring to walk this walk, obviously you are talking the talk, but if you do not continue in the fellowship..then you are merely being disobedient. And God is not going to bless disobedience..trust me i took a few weeks off because i was hurt..but after that i had to suck it up, and keep on..even if it was in another church congregation. Yes the building is not the church, We are the church..but the church is not an island to itself! Even Jesus fellowshipped..he had his own small group/mens group going on! If we see even Jesus fellowshipping, what in the world makes you believe you are above Jesus's example? Just saying..
I agree, while i do not truly believe it can be found in scripture that denominations were God's original plan, to say they are not able to be used of God is wrong..God uses people all day, who are flawed..who may miss it from time to time..he will of course use denominations as well. I understand to a point what that Philos guy was saying, but to say you are not accountable to any man? That's a bit scary man, we all need each other..maybe you've been hurt, so have i but that does not mean you throw the baby with the bathwater out and forsake the assembling of yourselves together as some already have, Hebrews 10:25..
you need fellowship..if you are desiring to walk this walk, obviously you are talking the talk, but if you do not continue in the fellowship..then you are merely being disobedient. And God is not going to bless disobedience..trust me i took a few weeks off because i was hurt..but after that i had to suck it up, and keep on..even if it was in another church congregation. Yes the building is not the church, We are the church..but the church is not an island to itself! Even Jesus fellowshipped..he had his own small group/mens group going on! If we see even Jesus fellowshipping, what in the world makes you believe you are above Jesus's example? Just saying..
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I agree, while i do not truly believe it can be found in scripture that denominations were God's original plan, to say they are not able to be used of God is wrong..God uses people all day, who are flawed..who may miss it from time to time..he will of course use denominations as well. I understand to a point what that Philos guy was saying, but to say you are not accountable to any man? That's a bit scary man, we all need each other..maybe you've been hurt, so have i but that does not mean you throw the baby with the bathwater out and forsake the assembling of yourselves together as some already have, Hebrews 10:25..
you need fellowship..if you are desiring to walk this walk, obviously you are talking the talk, but if you do not continue in the fellowship..then you are merely being disobedient. And God is not going to bless disobedience..trust me i took a few weeks off because i was hurt..but after that i had to suck it up, and keep on..even if it was in another church congregation. Yes the building is not the church, We are the church..but the church is not an island to itself! Even Jesus fellowshipped..he had his own small group/mens group going on! If we see even Jesus fellowshipping, what in the world makes you believe you are above Jesus's example? Just saying..[/quote]
So i believe i am above Jesus's example?
Do you seek to slander every person that lays truth on the table?
now, i want to say that i suck and asked the Lord many times "why me Lord, i suck". Please feel free to ask the Lord if i didnt ask Him many times even after He told me the answer.
For one i turn none away from my own house. i pass up no opportunity to dicsuss matters of the Lord. i take advantage of public meets promoted by local denominations as time and the Lord permits.
i abided with the Spirit for nearly 2 years before i was sent to a fellowship. The Lord worked with me during this process in the world amongst the factory i worked at. i often worked 7 days a week at that time, some 12 and 16 hour days.
i will go to any church on invitation unless the Lord says "No". i present my beliefs and if they accept me and prove they will allow God's rule, then i will abide. if they prove heresy after accepting the truth, i will remind one more time, and then im out. Titus 3:10
Also, i come to understand that images of the Lord is a no no. So if they hold an image of the LORD in any form and are not willing to break it down then that is heresy, and i will call it out as being an offense.
i was sent to my home church, my great grandaddy (moms dads dad) built it. aside from my great grandmothers (moms moms mom) funeral i hadnt attended in years. the last time i had attended there was around 100 people. Well when i arrived there was a mother and 3 daughters, my cousin and his wife and 3 kids, and a 2 more ladies, and a pastor they called him. i dont want to get all into it, although i will share all that happened in that time period if someone asks. Any way, the day i left there was nearing 150 people.
The morning the Lord pulled me out, there was a false prophetess allowed the floor, and in an excited and anxious fashion she promoted gays being allowed divine work based on doctrine of love and then went into tongues and ran arund the congregation out of control of her spirit sounding more like a gypsy dancer's lalalalalalalalala morso than actual tongues. The pastor (a different one than was there when i arrived) said thats the holy spirit right there on mic...at that point the woman ran outside and rolled on the grass lawn in the door front and ran around babeling with hands raised and ran back n the church...i went to the pastor in front of the church and reminded him that he requested that when i felt a spirit at work, that was not from GOD to come straight and let him know...he agreed that he did tell me that but this time i was in my flesh cause that was GOD...i said look at what she said and how she acts and the vibe of the people, he smiled and said "no, this is GOD" i said "you know i love you"
he agreed, "well i aint supporting this, im out" a look of shock came into his eyes. i then said "you know i will help you in any way i can and you know where i live, you can come talk to me anytime or call me or whatever" he nodded and the look in his eyes let me know that he knew i was serious. and he agreed that he knew i was sincere. i gave him a hug and told him i loved him, because i do, still, i knew this dude since i was in diapers or shortly after for sure, his wife my sunday school teacher from my youth.
on my way out, after i told the others in the congregation some things, as i was right at he doors of the sanctuary exit, befor entering the lobby he said on mic, "the lord says satan is leaving our door today."
more people aside myself was called out that day. i ran into several at stores and stuff that spoke about leaving after we all did. they all said stuff like "it was just heavy in the air" , "i wasnt feeling God no more" , "i wasnt being fed" , "i felt no conviction inside there" etc...
Soon black outs and extreme nightmares started and divorces and more divisions and secrecy amongst youth groups, this i heard from many people and also on facebook posts by some members there. So satan clearly had not left that day. it hurt me, yes it did.
i hadnt ate that day in days so i went and got breakfast and had time to catch the tail end of another service at another church that was known for not caring about the 12 o clock exit as much as others, and was/is not opposed to using their own kitchen, alhough i had already ate, they hadnt.
i testified of the past years of my walk and they accepted me, so i abided there for a season.
God dont use the division, GOD works with men.
now i will shut up.
blessings
you need fellowship..if you are desiring to walk this walk, obviously you are talking the talk, but if you do not continue in the fellowship..then you are merely being disobedient. And God is not going to bless disobedience..trust me i took a few weeks off because i was hurt..but after that i had to suck it up, and keep on..even if it was in another church congregation. Yes the building is not the church, We are the church..but the church is not an island to itself! Even Jesus fellowshipped..he had his own small group/mens group going on! If we see even Jesus fellowshipping, what in the world makes you believe you are above Jesus's example? Just saying..[/quote]
So i believe i am above Jesus's example?
Do you seek to slander every person that lays truth on the table?
now, i want to say that i suck and asked the Lord many times "why me Lord, i suck". Please feel free to ask the Lord if i didnt ask Him many times even after He told me the answer.
For one i turn none away from my own house. i pass up no opportunity to dicsuss matters of the Lord. i take advantage of public meets promoted by local denominations as time and the Lord permits.
i abided with the Spirit for nearly 2 years before i was sent to a fellowship. The Lord worked with me during this process in the world amongst the factory i worked at. i often worked 7 days a week at that time, some 12 and 16 hour days.
i will go to any church on invitation unless the Lord says "No". i present my beliefs and if they accept me and prove they will allow God's rule, then i will abide. if they prove heresy after accepting the truth, i will remind one more time, and then im out. Titus 3:10
Also, i come to understand that images of the Lord is a no no. So if they hold an image of the LORD in any form and are not willing to break it down then that is heresy, and i will call it out as being an offense.
i was sent to my home church, my great grandaddy (moms dads dad) built it. aside from my great grandmothers (moms moms mom) funeral i hadnt attended in years. the last time i had attended there was around 100 people. Well when i arrived there was a mother and 3 daughters, my cousin and his wife and 3 kids, and a 2 more ladies, and a pastor they called him. i dont want to get all into it, although i will share all that happened in that time period if someone asks. Any way, the day i left there was nearing 150 people.
The morning the Lord pulled me out, there was a false prophetess allowed the floor, and in an excited and anxious fashion she promoted gays being allowed divine work based on doctrine of love and then went into tongues and ran arund the congregation out of control of her spirit sounding more like a gypsy dancer's lalalalalalalalala morso than actual tongues. The pastor (a different one than was there when i arrived) said thats the holy spirit right there on mic...at that point the woman ran outside and rolled on the grass lawn in the door front and ran around babeling with hands raised and ran back n the church...i went to the pastor in front of the church and reminded him that he requested that when i felt a spirit at work, that was not from GOD to come straight and let him know...he agreed that he did tell me that but this time i was in my flesh cause that was GOD...i said look at what she said and how she acts and the vibe of the people, he smiled and said "no, this is GOD" i said "you know i love you"
he agreed, "well i aint supporting this, im out" a look of shock came into his eyes. i then said "you know i will help you in any way i can and you know where i live, you can come talk to me anytime or call me or whatever" he nodded and the look in his eyes let me know that he knew i was serious. and he agreed that he knew i was sincere. i gave him a hug and told him i loved him, because i do, still, i knew this dude since i was in diapers or shortly after for sure, his wife my sunday school teacher from my youth.
on my way out, after i told the others in the congregation some things, as i was right at he doors of the sanctuary exit, befor entering the lobby he said on mic, "the lord says satan is leaving our door today."
more people aside myself was called out that day. i ran into several at stores and stuff that spoke about leaving after we all did. they all said stuff like "it was just heavy in the air" , "i wasnt feeling God no more" , "i wasnt being fed" , "i felt no conviction inside there" etc...
Soon black outs and extreme nightmares started and divorces and more divisions and secrecy amongst youth groups, this i heard from many people and also on facebook posts by some members there. So satan clearly had not left that day. it hurt me, yes it did.
i hadnt ate that day in days so i went and got breakfast and had time to catch the tail end of another service at another church that was known for not caring about the 12 o clock exit as much as others, and was/is not opposed to using their own kitchen, alhough i had already ate, they hadnt.
i testified of the past years of my walk and they accepted me, so i abided there for a season.
God dont use the division, GOD works with men.
now i will shut up.
blessings