whats your opinion on atheism ?

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Oh, I forgot something else. This one fits quite perfectly here.

53. You are a person who absolutely believes that life came from nonlife, yet absolutely deny the possibility of anyone rising from the dead.
That's because the dead slowly decay to the point where it's impossible for the atoms to go back where they were.

Again, not our problem if the slight possibility of ressurection exists, it's the job to theists to prove it to be possible. Science can prove it's possible to go from non-life to life, now prove it's possible for someone to ressurect
 
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That's because the dead slowly decay to the point where it's impossible for the atoms to go back where they were.

Again, not our problem if the slight possibility of ressurection exists, it's the job to theists to prove it to be possible. Science can prove it's possible to go from non-life to life, now prove it's possible for someone to ressurect
I don't think you really want that. Are you telling me you want Jesus to have resurrected, and Jesus to be who he claimed to be, and that you will be held accountable for you sins? You want all of that to be true?

And btw, science hasn't proven it's possible to go from non-life to life.
 
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Iron Chariots, Basebool, and Megaman lets move this to The argument thread Lets leave people to their opinions on atheism. We aren't on topic.
 
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I personally find no worth in a life without Divine Purpose, so I respect Atheists. They have nothing to cling to when times are hard and so I have no desire to scorn them further.

There are many nice Atheists/Agnostics there are, there are!
 

homwardbound

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You've completely misunderstood and strawmanned me, my point is if there is a god, who gave us rational thought, then why would he punish us for using what he gave us?
You miss represent God, Who God truly is. Man did this to himself, God gave free choice to Adam and Eve, they chose to eat from the tree, that God said don't eat from, because they would thus die. And so they did eat and did die, God is not a liar. God has Mercy from day one of the death that came to Adam and Eve, he clothed them, and followed through with what he said would happen, they died and had to till the ground for themselves, they had to find out for themselves that they were not God, knowing both good and evil. God had Mercy on them, regardless, And let them go out on their own, being in bondage to flesh now after knowing both good and evil. They were stuck without the life of God. their own selfishness as all the worlds own selfishness is evil, takes away others free choice period. Now God saw their was no way that man on man's own could ever be 100% righteous. So in due time God has given all an escape hatch! This escape is found in Christ Jesus, at the cross
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So whoever believes into him shall be saved
Key word that is missing in scripture is the word INTO
If I, you or anyone else believes into will be changed by one's agreement between God and that person. Seeing what God has been angry about, and that is others taking away others free will. The law was never put in place to control us. It was put in place to show us our need for the creator, and the death was to take away all sin in Gold's sight, not man's. then the resurrection was and is for us to receive back the life that Adam and Eve lost, The Spirit filled life of God that just love you.
Mercy, has been by the cross given to all those that believe. Problem today is there are a lot of those that are fakes, that only care about themselves, having no Mercy, and this is how we know them, and are wise as serpents but harmless as doves
Bottom line GOD just LOVE you. And I guarantee people for the most do not, as I am sure you have seen, as I know I have as well, but God is not mocked and does just love us.
All God is waiting for is our response, not our good works, or bad ones.
 

homwardbound

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Man shaped god not the other way around, in all religions, in Christianity, man wrote the scriptures, man compiled the text, man formed a conciliate hundreds of years after Christ to determine what books would be included and EXCLUDED to be forgotten, man translated and interpreted the scriptures, and man led brother against brother when he disagreed with his neighbor's way of interpreting god.
So you see the problem as I do too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is man that is in the way not God, Now I guess God could just wipe all this mess out and have thought about this asking of. I heard well Howard if I take away their free will I would have to take away yours. Do you still want this?
I said no, because by me having this free will, that God will not interfere with, God thus does just love me. So I quit trying to get God to respond to me and began responding to God a big difference from religion. Cause I do not believe in religion. It is exactly as you stated above
 
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Religion is religion, you may or may not like it, but it is Christianity.
 
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that doesn't make it a relationship
 
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You can't tell that to atheists, it just goes right over their heads because they refuse to understand.
No I understand, I thought the same thing when I was a Christian. The, "it is a relationship", mindset is not exclusive to Christianity, the same goes for muslims it makes the religion appear to be the truest. But what you think does not change the fact that it was, is, and always will be a religion.
 
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Except it is a religion
No I understand, I thought the same thing when I was a Christian. The, "it is a relationship", mindset is not exclusive to Christianity, the same goes for muslims it makes the religion appear to be the truest. But what you think does not change the fact that it was, is, and always will be a religion.
You can't tell that to atheists, it just goes right over their heads because they refuse to understand.
Yep, exactly what I said.
 
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No I understand, I thought the same thing when I was a Christian. The, "it is a relationship", mindset is not exclusive to Christianity, the same goes for muslims it makes the religion appear to be the truest. But what you think does not change the fact that it was, is, and always will be a religion.
Actually, this is completely false. Muslims do not feel any personal connection to "Allah". Having a relationship with God is not proving how true a religion is either.

Having a relationship with God is not a fantasy. It is real and God is amazing.
 
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Here is my opinion

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
 

homwardbound

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Religion is religion, you may or may not like it, but it is Christianity.
Not to me, religion is what is man doing to get God to respond to him? God is not religious and God is not a vending machine, put in this or that and get this or that out of it.
What does the clay have to say to the potter? that is what man is doing why have you God(potter) made me this way, and just passing off not me as Adam and Eve did when they went and hid. Thus as Adam said it was that Women and the Woman said it was the Serpent
Man not holding himself accountable him doing harm to others for his own gain, and what God is actually against others taking away others free will.

People have done such a terrible Job using God's name for their own gain as if God is a vending machine, That I am sure God is seeing as God did in the days of Noah and regretted as said, and destroyed all evil mankind, only saving Noah and Noah's family along with a pair of each animal, And said afterwards he would never flood the earth again, for God's desire is for us all to get along. So God went as far as sending his Son Christ to us and for us to repent to trust God and thus love all, not harming anyone. What a miraculous salvation this is
How can one not respond to this and say thank you and loving back as God has and does love us
I am the creation therefore I am responding to the creator in thankfulness and praises, rather than playing God trying to create and be above anyone else as man does do. I have given up Godhood, have accepted me as the creation and God as the creator and am free in this, by Faith and no works of my own
 

homwardbound

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Except it is a religion
Do you have any friends that you consider your friend no matter what you do or not do. Can you tell this friend anything and not be condemned?
well this is who God is, You can be honest with God 100% and not ever be condemned. This is what changed my way of thinking, having a friend as this wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to me.
So today I am a responder over what I used to be was an initiator. This is not a religion at least to me, no matter we all have free choice and we all wish to be free.
So if you are free then more power to you. Yet if you are in bondage then there might be error(s) in your truth. And I do believe that truth does set one free to be caring and compassionate to all, giving consideration and not harming anyone.
 

homwardbound

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No I understand, I thought the same thing when I was a Christian. The, "it is a relationship", mindset is not exclusive to Christianity, the same goes for muslims it makes the religion appear to be the truest. But what you think does not change the fact that it was, is, and always will be a religion.
Okay, it matters not to me any way this is sliced, diced or cubed, reality is still reality, as God is God.
Now if I am against anyone over their free choice then how can I truly say I love God who through Christ loved me first
As Christ to the people before he went to the cross for all, he said how can one say they love if they only love those that love them?
There are way too many Dogmas and this is the way and so on and so forth, I agree with you, yet there no matter what there is only one God that loves us all, that went to the cross for us all , and rose again for us all. All that God left was for you, me and anyone else is either to believe or not believe in God.
This is a conscious choice, for us all to make, and all to be aware of the consequences and is not about being Good and bad.
It is about Belief or not.
Thank you, love you, deeper than I think you might know
 
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Actually, this is completely false. Muslims do not feel any personal connection to "Allah". Having a relationship with God is not proving how true a religion is either.

Having a relationship with God is not a fantasy. It is real and God is amazing.
What a joke, I know several muslims and they do, try again.