WHY DO A LOT OF CHRISTIANS EAT PORK, BACON, AND HAM, WHEN GOD FORBADE EATING SWINE MEAT?

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Moses_Young

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There's a difference between killing and murder.
According to who's law? When countries are at war, who gets to decide the difference between killing and murder? And if it's the winning country, is it a Godly idea that might makes right? That's why these things are left up to the conscience of the believer.

I personally don't believe Christians should be involved in a country's military, because I believe most of the killings in unjustified wars (and pretty much all wars in the last 50 years were unjustified) rank as murder. However, I also know many Christian military men who I respect as God-fearing. And where would we be with the world's current pedophilia and child trafficking pandemic without the military, irrespective of the past 50 years of wars? Likewise with taxation being theft.

As such, even things some might see as murder and stealing are to left to the conscience of the believer. While I might say murder because the war is unjustified, you might say killing because the other country's military wasn't just going to step back and let the country get pillaged. Ultimately, we are each accountable to God for our actions, but we're certainly not under the Old Testament.
 

Gojira

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According to who's law? When countries are at war, who gets to decide the difference between killing and murder? And if it's the winning country, is it a Godly idea that might makes right? That's why these things are left up to the conscience of the believer.

I personally don't believe Christians should be involved in a country's military, because I believe most of the killings in unjustified wars (and pretty much all wars in the last 50 years were unjustified) rank as murder. However, I also know many Christian military men who I respect as God-fearing. And where would we be with the world's current pedophilia and child trafficking pandemic without the military, irrespective of the past 50 years of wars? Likewise with taxation being theft.

As such, even things some might see as murder and stealing are to left to the conscience of the believer. While I might say murder because the war is unjustified, you might say killing because the other country's military wasn't just going to step back and let the country get pillaged. Ultimately, we are each accountable to God for our actions, but we're certainly not under the Old Testament.
Okay.
 

Gojira

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At what? His thumbs-ups at every comment made, regardless of the side of the issue in a debate that it takes?? I've seen quite a lot of that. I cannot read his mind, and I'll see if he explains himself. If.
 

Cameron143

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At what? His thumbs-ups at every comment made, regardless of the side of the issue in a debate that it takes?? I've seen quite a lot of that. I cannot read his mind, and I'll see if he explains himself. If.
You are just looking at this one thread. I've watched his activity over time as well as his comments. I've shared with you why. You can accept it or not.
 

Gojira

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You are just looking at this one thread. I've watched his activity over time as well as his comments. I've shared with you why. You can accept it or not.
At the current time, I do not. If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll find out soon enough.
 

Mem

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At the current time, I do not. If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll find out soon enough.
sometimes, I'll give a thumbs up because there is no "ok" icon and that is the closest thing.
 

Gojira

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sometimes, I'll give a thumbs up because there is no "ok" icon and that is the closest thing.
In those cases, personally, I'll just type out my reaction. There are emojis that we lack here, unfortunately.
 

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The only commandments I found for a gentile Christian was, Dont Drink Blood(easy one for me), Dont Fornicate(Me Good).
 

Lynx

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At what? His thumbs-ups at every comment made, regardless of the side of the issue in a debate that it takes?? I've seen quite a lot of that. I cannot read his mind, and I'll see if he explains himself. If.
Sometimes you can understand why a person thinks that way even if you don't agree with him.

Remember that Turtles movie where Leo and Raph were arguing? Leo would get in a point and Donny would comment to Mikey, "He's right." Then Raph would come back with a good point and Donny would say, "He's right." Finally Donny shrugged and said, "They're both right."