Why do people on this site hate the Catholic Church?

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PennEd

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Your just trolling.
Still noticing you are not addressing the heresies of purgatory and indulgences.

So your last defense is to name call. Why are you afraid to talk about those heresies?
 

Nehemiah6

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Why do people on this site hate the Catholic Church?
DEEDS
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. (Rev 2:6)

DOCTRINE
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. (Rev 2:15)

Both the deeds and the doctrine of the Catholic Church are unacceptable to Christ.
 
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DEEDS
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. (Rev 2:6)

DOCTRINE
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. (Rev 2:15)

Both the deeds and the doctrine of the Catholic Church are unacceptable to Christ.
As far as I am aware the Catholics do not allow divorce and remarriage. Though I am not Catholic nor from a Catholic family, so not sure if they have changed their stance.
 
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Bede

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DEEDS
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. (Rev 2:6)

DOCTRINE
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. (Rev 2:15)

Both the deeds and the doctrine of the Catholic Church are unacceptable to Christ.
Wow! you make a judgement like that.
 
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Bede

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Still noticing you are not addressing the heresies of purgatory and indulgences.

So your last defense is to name call. Why are you afraid to talk about those heresies?
As I have said before , with your attitude I see no point in even trying to have a discussion with you.
 

hornetguy

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I thought those were directed towards something called the RCC - whatever that is.

I belong to the Catholic Church.
Please don't stoop to the level of silly semantics. You know exactly what I meant. The "church" calls ITSELF the Roman Catholic Church.
And, if you are NOT a troll, which I suspect, please address the questions I put forth, and we can discuss them, in light of scripture.
 

Lynx

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Bede have you seen the Bible discussions forum? It is a forum much better suited to arguments... I mean debates such as this. Also, I want my nice, relaxed miscellaneous forum back.

Also PennEd is not even close to a troll. He has been here a long time and his wisdom is firmly established. He is a sucker for debates though...
 
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Bede

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Please don't stoop to the level of silly semantics. You know exactly what I meant. The "church" calls ITSELF the Roman Catholic Church.
And, if you are NOT a troll, which I suspect, please address the questions I put forth, and we can discuss them, in light of scripture.
No it doesn't call itself the Roman Catholic Church.

The full title is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.” - a title also claimed by the Orthodox. It is normally shortened to Catholic Church.
Thus the Catechism is titled "Catechism Of The Catholic Church" (see http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM). The term "Roman Catholic Church" was a pejorative term invented by Protestants at the Reformation.
 
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Bede have you seen the Bible discussions forum? It is a forum much better suited to arguments... I mean debates such as this. Also, I want my nice, relaxed miscellaneous forum back.

Also PennEd is not even close to a troll. He has been here a long time and his wisdom is firmly established. He is a sucker for debates though...
OK. I won't post any more here.

To all,

I didn't join this forum to start pushing Catholic beliefs but I am ready to explain and defend them to those who are open to discussion. For that reason I don't want to start threads on particularly Catholic topics. But if you want to I'm happy to talk. I think it's better to start a new thread - in the Bible Discussion forum - so that others will see it and perhaps join in.

Please can you keep it to one topic per thread. "Shopping lists" of supposed Catholic errors are unproductive and descend into chaos - even quicker than normal threads.

It's my belief that Catholic teachings are much misunderstood. There are many Protestant sites that seem to specialise in promoting distorted versions (justforcatholics is a good example).

Here is another suggestion. Start a topic with an open ended question rather than an attack such as PennEdd's "Your response to the Satanic catholic doctrine of purgatory and indulgences?"

Final point. No Catholic doctrine (properly understood) contradicts scripture (properly interpreted).
 

PennEd

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OK. I won't post any more here.

To all,

I didn't join this forum to start pushing Catholic beliefs but I am ready to explain and defend them to those who are open to discussion. For that reason I don't want to start threads on particularly Catholic topics. But if you want to I'm happy to talk. I think it's better to start a new thread - in the Bible Discussion forum - so that others will see it and perhaps join in.

Please can you keep it to one topic per thread. "Shopping lists" of supposed Catholic errors are unproductive and descend into chaos - even quicker than normal threads.

It's my belief that Catholic teachings are much misunderstood. There are many Protestant sites that seem to specialise in promoting distorted versions (justforcatholics is a good example).

Here is another suggestion. Start a topic with an open ended question rather than an attack such as PennEdd's "Your response to the Satanic catholic doctrine of purgatory and indulgences?"

Final point. No Catholic doctrine (properly understood) contradicts scripture (properly interpreted).
Dude. I bet I know catholic beliefs better than you. I got the elongated earlobes from the nuns pulling them to prove it!

Don't let the door hit you in the rear on your way out!

Oh. And purgatory and indulgences ARE Satanic catholic doctrine!
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Final point. No Catholic doctrine (properly understood) contradicts scripture (properly interpreted).

when understood by those who have been brought up in the Catholic religion, that would probably be true

I have come to understand, however, that some of those doctrines are very chameleon like when questioned

anyway, these forums are not Catholic...as I am sure you have figured out...there are many many Catholic forums available however and no one will misunderstand

but most of them will quickly snip any chance of presenting another interpretation

I would say you have pretty much been allowed to say whatever you wish and I doubt you have not been persuaded against anyone who is not Catholic
 

Lynx

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OK. I won't post any more here.
Let me make sure I am making myself clear on this.

I do understand your gripe, and I think it IS legitimate. A lot of people put down the Catholic Church and a lot of people say a lot of things about it that are not true. I DO understand you being upset about it.

I do NOT believe you are going to accomplish anything by complaining about it. Nobody is going to change anybody's mind here. All you will do is start people up again and we will have the same debate we have seen in this forum about 700 times already (and that's not even counting the Bible Discussion Forum threads... that would run the count almost to a million!)

Also, getting defensive and calling people trolls won't help anything. That just makes it worse, especially when you call "troll!" on people we have known here for a long time. Dude, it ain't helping.

Also, some good points were raised that I know for a fact are true, and you haven't answered them. I'm not saying you have to answer them - you can do whatever you want. But you started the thread, so it is kind of expected that you will give reasonable answers to defend the claims against the church you are ostensibly trying to defend here.

Like I said, you can do what you want. But I don't think what you are currently doing will be any help to you or the Catholic Church.
 
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G2RBeliever

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Job6:25 How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Verse 30 Is there iniquity in my tongue.......
 
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Catholics are just as christan as protestants it is just a bunch of old world hatred thats been carried ove until now. We all need to love each other thats what god wants
 
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He tells us to hate evil..

Psalms 97 KJV
10 "Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked."

Amos 5: KJV
14 "Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. {15} Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph."
What about that new testament scripture that tells us if we claim to be in the light of God and hate anyone that we're still in darkness?And that other one that says, if we say we love God but we hate our brother we are a liar?
 

Adstar

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What about that new testament scripture that tells us if we claim to be in the light of God and hate anyone that we're still in darkness?And that other one that says, if we say we love God but we hate our brother we are a liar?
You are willfully seeking to misinterpret what i am saying to declare that i am supporting the hating of other people.. Any honest person having read my posts in this thread would know that i am talking only about hating evil.. Not hating people..

I challenge anyone reading this to go back and quote where i have supported the hating of people.. You will not find it..
 
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Bede

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Let me make sure I am making myself clear on this.

Also, getting defensive and calling people trolls won't help anything.

OK I get it.
Calling protestants trolls is not OK.
Protestants calling Catholics evil and satanic is OK.

Well I'll leave you all alone.
Goodbye.
 

PennEd

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OK I get it.
Calling protestants trolls is not OK.
Protestants calling Catholics evil and satanic is OK.

Well I'll leave you all alone.
Goodbye.
Stop lying. Who called Catholics evil and satanic?

We said the DOCTRINE was evil and satanic.
Ok. You are excused to leave the premises. Unless of course you’d like to try and get in another parting shot.

You could also address the heresies of purgatory and indulgences too. But prolly not I suspect.
 

Lynx

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OK I get it.
Calling protestants trolls is not OK.
Protestants calling Catholics evil and satanic is OK.

Well I'll leave you all alone.
Goodbye.
I DID NOT say it was okay. I expressed I was sympathetic to catholics who come here and see catholics being put down.

Don't put words in my mouth. They sometimes crowd out my foot. :p

If you're going to pay attention to the part where I said complaining about it won't do any good, but ignore the part where I said I feel your pain brother, what's the point in reading ANY of what I said?
 

Lynx

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Bede: Just out of curiosity I checked your post history.

Wow...

One post for greeting, and then seven pages of posts arguing about what people say about the Catholic Church. You really got a chip on your shoulder and you seem to have come to this forum for the single purpose of arguing with people who don't like the Catholic Church.

I hereby formally retract any sympathy I may have expressed. You are here to argue and you are not going to let anything get in the way of your argument fun.

I am reporting you as a troll. Have fun picking fights in the next forum you cast a pall over with your argumentative presence.