Would you be willing to lie in a court for a friend if...

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Jesh777

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...it meant saving your friend from going to jail for life?
 
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Tintin

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Have they been wrongfully accused or are they guilty? If they were guilty of a crime, I would find it very difficult to let them go to jail, but I believe there are consequences for breaking the law.
 
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Jesh777

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say your friend is guilty...

would you be willing?
 

Joidevivre

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The truth is sometimes painful, but it is the only right thing to do. What you speak is more about you than the other person. Always be a person of integrity and let God take care of the rest. He is the one who defends his people when they need defending or metes out justice when it is deserved. Just be true to yourself first of all. To speak the truth will only strengthen your character and build wisdom in you.
 
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Beckster

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If I had a friend who I downright knew was guilty then yes, I would let them go and deal with the consequences. They may hate me and call me "not a real friend" and it would hurt but I will not lie to cover them. Even if they were my best friend since childhood. I would be with them every step of the way and try to help them if they allowed.
 
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jer2911

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Lying --- NO

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Jesh777

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If I had a friend who I downright knew was guilty then yes, I would let them go and deal with the consequences. They may hate me and call me "not a real friend" and it would hurt but I will not lie to cover them. Even if they were my best friend since childhood. I would be with them every step of the way and try to help them if they allowed.
and maybe if he too is a real friend, he will understand.


The truth is sometimes painful, but it is the only right thing to do. What you speak is more about you than the other person. Always be a person of integrity and let God take care of the rest. He is the one who defends his people when they need defending or metes out justice when it is deserved. Just be true to yourself first of all.To speak the truth will only strengthen your character and build wisdom in you.
To speak the truth, yah, i like that. Wisdom is really needed in this case...
 
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jer2911

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BIG NO! haha. if true to life man to, teh, mahirap pero kelangan mo gawin, diba? covering their fault will only make it worse. let them suffer the consequences of their acts. #harsh
Suffer --- YES! For him/her to see the grievance of his/her action.

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MidniteWelder

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Let's see...Spurn the Lord by making a friend higher than him by lying for him when we're told Liars shall not enter the kingdom?
Probably not
God comes before any man

There's also the fact that we must be able to accept any consequences for any wrong action. Not try and get out of things.
Otherwise that very practice of behavior may carry over onto judgement day.
So said friend while I may have compassion and go visit him in jail if convicted for whatever, would still have to endure and reap what has been sown, as we are told to do.

 
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Tintin

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There are rare instances where lying is preferable, but they're few and far between. For example during WW2, if you were hiding Jews (ala Corrie Ten Boom and family) and the Nazis asked if you had seen any of them around the neighbourhood, you say NO, thus saving their lives. Life is sacred.
 
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Jesh777

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There are rare instances where lying is preferable, but they're few and far between. For example during WW2, if you were hiding Jews (ala Corrie Ten Boom and family) and the Nazis asked if you had seen any of them around the neighbourhood, you say NO, thus saving their lives. Life is sacred.
Is that what you call a "white lie"?
 
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Tintin

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Is that what you call a "white lie"?
No, I don't think so. I think a "white lie" is something to save face eg. telling a friend a lie to make them feel better to 'protect' them from the truth. Telling a lie to save a life. Telling a lie to someone who doesn't deserve the truth (Nazis: have you seen any Jews?) is very different.

By the way, I wasn't implying that the Ten Booms were Jews. I think they hid the Jews.
 

blue_ladybug

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...it meant saving your friend from going to jail for life?
Absolutely not, because lying for any reason is a sin, and if YOU get caught lying in a court of law, YOU can go to jail also for perjury!! It's not worth it if your friend is truly guilty.
 
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biscuit

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[h=1]Why is "You shall not give false testimony" in the Ten Commandments?[/h]
Question: "Why is 'You shall not give false testimony' in the Ten Commandments?"

Answer:
Part of the Ten Commandments, also known as the Decalogue, this 9th commandment forbids the Israelites from bearing false witness or giving false testimony against one another (Exodus 20:16; Deuteronomy 5:20). To bear false witness against others is to lie about them, especially for personal gain. The Hebrew word translated “neighbor” in this commandment can mean an associate, a brother, companion, fellow, friend, husband, lover, or neighbor. In other words, the Israelites were commanded to be truthful in all things, but especially when speaking about another person. The people were not to lie publicly, as in a court of law by laying at another’s feet any false charge that could injure him, nor were they to lie privately by whispering, talebearing, backbiting, slandering, or destroying his character by innuendos, sly insinuations, and evil suggestions.

The reasons for God’s prohibiting lying and testifying falsely against one’s neighbor are three-fold. First, God’s people are to reflect God’s character. Jehovah is a truthful God who does not and cannot lie. Numbers 23:19 tells us, “God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?” The people who were called by God’s name and who represented Him in the heathen world were expected to accurately reflect His character. Lying to or about one another brought reproach upon His holy name, and this He would not tolerate. Second, bearing false witness against another was destructive to the individual who was the victim of the lie, and he suffered by it in his character, credibility and reputation, as well as in his trade and business. Leviticus 19:18 makes it clear that the Israelites were to love their neighbors as themselves, a command reiterated by both Jesus and Paul (Matthew 22:39; Romans 13:9). Loving our neighbors precludes lying about them.

Third, false witness was seen as so destructive to society that courts of law, both in the days of the Israelites and today, could function only if the witnesses who were called to testify could be trusted to tell the truth. Without a trustworthy judicial system, based on eyewitness testimony from reliable, truthful witnesses, societies are at risk of the breakdown of law and order. When this happens, chaos ensues and the innocent suffer.

As noted before, the New Testament is equally condemning of false witness. Colossians 3:9-10 explains the reason for the continued prohibition against lying. Christians are new creations in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) and as such, we reflect His nature. We have been released from our “old self” with its evil practices such as lying and bearing false witness. As the Israelites were to reflect the character of Jehovah, Christians are to reflect to the world the character of Christ that identifies us as His own​
 

Lyta137

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I might gain a friend but then lose my soul if you know what I mean...it all comes to either pleasing your friend or God. and if that friend is innocent, I don't see how lying would even come in because then, it will have to be the truth that they will require to be freed.
 
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chatoo

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what is the context of "love covers a multitude of sins?" anybody?
 

p_rehbein

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No.........................seriously? Even non-Christians know better than that..........goodness
 
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sunburn

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Someone asked me to lie in court and i said no… i lost the friendship at the time… but i knew i did the right thing… It was hard….we are friends again now with more respect. What I mean is, he still do dodgy stuff but comes to me for advice instead…
It pays to stay honest….in the long run.