Most Christians are ignorant of Gods word concerning diet and lifestyle

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Blik

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There are wonderful articles about making bread on the net, and the sponge method is thoroughly discussed. I used it to be sure the whole wheat flour absorbed the liquid, the whole wheat berry does not absorb liquid as well as the white part of the berry. I find now, that letting a sponge set brings about fermentation, another health benefit. One site suggests 16 to 24 hours, something I had never tried.

Kneading the bread develops the gluten, making it strong and elastic. This can also be done without kneading, as it naturally happens when the soft bread dough sets in a warm room to ferment, making the bread light & flavorful.
 

shittim

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Had the most fun with this, cooking temp is a big deal, and being "slack" dough it has plenty of time to absorb the moisture.
 

Jillintx

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Unfortunately it is my experience that most people, Christians or otherwise, upwards of around 97%, do not really know what a biologically healing, chemically altering diet is.
The sad part is that the diet is simply stated in the first chapter of the bible.
I just know i care about eating healthy but the pandemic made me a lot less healthy (less walking needed at work) and gained a little and b.p. started to go up. That finally got me off my tail and now i am very seriously paying attention to what I eat and which nutrients (ex: potassium) need to eat more of. You can give up and take a bandaid pill for every ailment or you can treat your body as a temple and do your best to plan meals using some app to show you how what you select for the day calculates either the balance or off balanced.
 

Jillintx

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I just know i care about eating healthy but the pandemic made me a lot less healthy (less walking needed at work) and gained a little and b.p. started to go up. That finally got me off my tail and now i am very seriously paying attention to what I eat and which nutrients (ex: potassium) need to eat more of, as well as making sure I get more exercise. You can give up and take a bandaid pill for every ailment or you can treat your body as a temple and do your best to plan meals using some app to show you how what you select for the day calculates either the balance or off balanced.
 

Jillintx

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I don't have the time now, but hopefully I can make time in the next few days to post a biologically healing food plan on here.
One which is biologically sustaining, nutritionally dense, fairly free of toxins, chemically and electro magnetically and spiritually and intellectually compatible and enhancing to the human physiology.
My apologies to those who emailed me about this and I did not respond.
What is "chemically and electro magnetically?"
 

Jillintx

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The fruit before bed is to unsure a slow releasing carb to feed the brain all night, preventing premature waking. Fruit leaves the stomach quick so you won’t go to bed feeling full.
If I ate fruit at bedtime blood sugar spikes and I wake up.
 

Jillintx

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King Arthur flour is made with hard red wheat, so even their white flour has a higher protein content than other flour. This means the bread is of higher quality and has more flavor. It is better to use their whole wheat flour, but if you do you must make a sponge to set overnight so the flour absorbs the liquid. Otherwise, the bread will not rise properly.
Yes, speaking from experience it didn't. My friend in culinary school said let it rise in fridge overnight or for a much longer time.
 

Jillintx

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There are wonderful articles about making bread on the net, and the sponge method is thoroughly discussed. I used it to be sure the whole wheat flour absorbed the liquid, the whole wheat berry does not absorb liquid as well as the white part of the berry. I find now, that letting a sponge set brings about fermentation, another health benefit. One site suggests 16 to 24 hours, something I had never tried.

Kneading the bread develops the gluten, making it strong and elastic. This can also be done without kneading, as it naturally happens when the soft bread dough sets in a warm room to ferment, making the bread light & flavorful.
 

Jillintx

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King Arthur WW flour also makes great tortillas or roti.
 

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Really weird people judging bothers for what food they eat and using “the body is a temple” when it comes to what we eat or exercise etc.

Don’t you know Jesus said - “A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”

And Paul said
13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another... 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean

There is nothing wrong with eating “healthy” (debatable topic in itself”) and exercising, unless it becomes a source of pride or vanity, but as Jesus said - it is NOT what goes into a man that defiles him, and as Paul says - the kingdom is not a matter of food or drink.

The Body is a temple quote is a reference to SEXUAL purity. Not what we eat. Nothing to do with food at all, or exercise
 

Jillintx

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Really weird people judging bothers for what food they eat and using “the body is a temple” when it comes to what we eat or exercise etc.

Don’t you know Jesus said - “A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”

And Paul said
13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another... 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean

There is nothing wrong with eating “healthy” (debatable topic in itself”) and exercising, unless it becomes a source of pride or vanity, but as Jesus said - it is NOT what goes into a man that defiles him, and as Paul says - the kingdom is not a matter of food or drink.

The Body is a temple quote is a reference to SEXUAL purity. Not what we eat. Nothing to do with food at all, or exercise
I personally wasn't judging anyone else. Just feeling repentant for my unhealthy eating patterns which led my blood pressure to become elevated. And now its fropping due to diet and exercise. Not sure why temple would "only" apply to sex, as if you eat the foods God intended you to eat you are healthier, have more energy and less health concerns requiring medical intervention. But I'm sure the nutritionist who started this post is better qualified to defend that idea of the body being a temple.

I empathize totally though that there are so many areas, even spirituality, that when people start pursuing improvement themselves, they start to look down on or feel superior to other Christians. It causes them to not feel as friendly to be around. It's sad. It is an issue of maturity but when someone is proud and feels successful, and someone else feels less so.... there's where it can be missed. Pride is sly and sneaks up even on the people who feel it.
 

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Not sure why temple would "only" apply to sex, as if you eat the foods God intended you to eat you are healthier, have more energy and less health concerns requiring medical intervention. But I'm sure the nutritionist who started this post is better qualified to defend that idea of the body being a temple.

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To clarify the point I was making - no matter which specialist I would be talking to I would always take the bible as the ultimate source of any information concerning a quote from it - I was referring to the biblical context of the reference to the body is the temple .

The content clearly explains it is NOT anything to do with food - that EVERY OTHER SIN is “without” the body except sexual sin - which defiles the temple. It is actually about the very issue that food does not affect the temple of the Holy Spirit in any biblical sense.

1 cor 6

(Prior verses go on about not judging one another over foods as I already mentioned in previous post)

13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
 

Jillintx

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Hmmmm. The context makes sense.

I have always heard "since your body is a temple, you should eat healthy." Its not Biblically mandated in that verse I guess, but wisdom is suggested throughout the Bible. And the context for food, eating whatever you want, had roots in Jewish laws about what you can and cannot eat rather than in that context, as you are saying, referring to a healthy diet.. 😉
 

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Hmmmm. The context makes sense.

I have always heard "since your body is a temple, you should eat healthy." Its not Biblically mandated in that verse I guess, but wisdom is suggested throughout the Bible. And the context for food, eating whatever you want, had roots in Jewish laws about what you can and cannot eat rather than in that context, as you are saying, referring to a healthy diet.. 😉
Yeah lol I guess they didn’t have McDonald’s or Cadbury’s back then lol and people weren’t inclined to eat
Processed foods as they didn’t have em ... But still... plenty of people lecture others on not eating meat and so on. I think the not judging others on diet still would apply. But if it is sin for you don’t do it - ie of it makes you ill just use common sense :)
 

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We are no longer under the law, Peter was given the dream with all the formerly detestable creatures under the law with the explanation, "arise Peter, kill and eat, that which I have called clean, call not thou unclean". I have always taken the dietary prohibitions of the O.T. as a part of the law for obedience toward righteousness than health concerns, I fish with a hook and line as well, something prohibited under the law of the O.T.
 

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Really weird people judging bothers for what food they eat and using “the body is a temple” when it comes to what we eat or exercise etc.

Don’t you know Jesus said - “A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”

And Paul said
13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another... 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean

There is nothing wrong with eating “healthy” (debatable topic in itself”) and exercising, unless it becomes a source of pride or vanity, but as Jesus said - it is NOT what goes into a man that defiles him, and as Paul says - the kingdom is not a matter of food or drink.

The Body is a temple quote is a reference to SEXUAL purity. Not what we eat. Nothing to do with food at all, or exercise
I think you are limiting the word of the Lord by saying God is only speaking of sexual purity. The Lord is speaking of treating our body as a temple of the Lord.

But I think you are not limiting some verses enough! When the Lord tells us that what goes in our body is eliminated, it was in response to people who said it was part of obedience to God to never eat pork. God had ordered people to never eat meat from animals that were built to eat garbage as a reminder to not put garbage in their minds. When the holy spirit did that for us, God said the pork was eliminated, but food for our minds was not.
 
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We are no longer under the law, Peter was given the dream with all the formerly detestable creatures under the law with the explanation, "arise Peter, kill and eat, that which I have called clean, call not thou unclean". I have always taken the dietary prohibitions of the O.T. as a part of the law for obedience toward righteousness than health concerns, I fish with a hook and line as well, something prohibited under the law of the O.T.
Hey there, not familiar with a fish hook and line law. Would you please share the verse? Thanks
 

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I think you are limiting the word of the Lord by saying God is only speaking of sexual purity. The Lord is speaking of treating our body as a temple of the Lord.
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In the context it is limited to sexual purity - as per 1 cor 6 (I quoted that part in its proper context in Post #93)

Anyone is free to make It mean whatever else t hey personally would like it to mean, but I was just saying what the biblical context meant it for.

If you know of any other use of the phrase in scripture I would be glad to learn more though.
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But I think you are not limiting some verses enough! When the Lord tells us that what goes in our body is eliminated, it was in response to people who said it was part of obedience to God to never eat pork. God had ordered people to never eat meat from animals that were built to eat garbage as a reminder to not put garbage in their minds. When the holy spirit did that for us, God said the pork was eliminated, but food for our minds was not.
Yes absolutely - Christ made that clear. in doing so He didn’t instruct the Jews not to Keep observing the ceremonial food laws as some imagine, and we know that from the fact Peter was documented as continuing to observe them even beyond Christ’s resurrection.

But we are not under law :) thankfully.

I don’t take any offence or indignation at anyone adhering to any Type of diet or exercise regime - I have tried a few and some helped and some did not. It’s a personal thing and not one method works for every body type when it comes to health.

I don’t really have much more to say, just trying to answer the few who responded to my responses.

I just find the title of the thread and the attitudes in some responses - not all of course - quite arrogant, legalistic, dogmatic, lacking in grace and and Well - just a bit disturbing.

There are simply no biblical rules or commands about eating and drinking for the Christian - other than to do it to the glory of God (and not to do it if it offends others, or to excess.)

Any other rules and regulations may well be sensible, even beneficial - but totally optional and do not relate to any lack in a believer who doesn’t follow suite, or Mean they have some sort of doctrinal ignorance.

To say - this way of eating has blessed and helped me And I found it in scripture and want to share it for anyone would like to know more... It might help someone.

Well that’s lovely, Thoughtful, beneficial, edifying and helpful.

The thread title is anything but. That is it from me. I have dragged my point out way too long. I wish you all well with your eating topic :)
 

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Hey there, not familiar with a fish hook and line law. Would you please share the verse? Thanks
Worms, not fish hook and line law ;)

And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.