searching ourselves through others allows humility within to create a new person

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

JohnDB

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2021
5,621
2,208
113
#23
HEY,

One of the most annoying things about some believers is that they really do not want to grow. And it stems from a fear of what God will do with them or what they will have to give God.

They often know the verse "a man's life does not consist of his possessions" but...they really don't have the requisite faith to put it into practice.

God is good. God is kind. God is loving. God knows you better than you do.

Easy for people to say....hard for people to believe....especially when God seems absentee most of the time.

"Blessed are the pure/holy in heart for they shall see God"
Yeah....they missed this one too. But it is also true. And those who achieve this single mindedness will see God working all around them.

But the fact of the matter is that they have as much of God as they want....they want no more than they currently have....not really understanding that the life they lead now is the foundation upon which they will spend all eternity. It can be poor or rich in Christ...and will have a direct bearing upon their lifestyle in heaven.

Paul used a different metaphor discussing this talking about running a race and how some people have yet to get very far from the starting point of the race...they are hardly slow walking at all. I imagine him shouting and pleading "RUN!"....

And it all comes down to that seemingly odd question Jesus asked the lame man by the pool, "Do you want to be well?"

Some people say "yes" but really mean "no". They don't want to be well at all as they consider the cure to be worse than their disease. They are referred to by James as "double minded".

Just some thoughts for you to ponder....
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#24
As a relatively new person in Christ Jesus, I often look at, to, and reflect those in faith around me. I often wonder how many believers in Christ truly know where their faith starts and ends in the paradigms that life throws at us. To seek wisdom through prayer, scripture, others whose walk is true. When do we truly discover our reflection in him who sees all. Hope all find themselves within where our new spirit lives and breaths.
God will reveal all in God's timing not peoples timing. As is, to me in the way for one and many to hear truth over errors here in this world still. many not willing to be dead to their first birth of flesh nature. You want to see, be willing to be dead, here now presently between God and you.
God's walk through Son is real and true. Jesus went willingly to that cross, he could have by free choice stopped it and got off anytime he wanted to, and did not do that, why??????????????????????????????????//
Who would with all that power exposed go willingly to death, ( Jesus did that) As I see the disciples were distraught in that happening, They thought Jesus was going to be King here on earth and stop the Romans and free them. But that did not happen.
Then the resurrected ??????Jesus got revealed to over 500 witnesses, even Saul who became Paul to see to let go of tradition(s) and stand in trust to God alone in risen Son Jesus for him as stated in Phil 3 about the first born flesh nature of us the people to be born new in God's Spirit and Truth by belief to Son is risen for us all, to be placed in by belief to this truth and then see new To stop the arguing and fights over things to see 1 Cor 3
Read the entire Bible to know God personally and one will know God and not have to defend self ever again.
Thanks
James 4
From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume itupon your lusts. ...
Guilty, it is "I" that "I" speak of, thank you /Father to reveal this truth to me, I see to be dead to that first birth in flesh and blood daily
I see Romans 6,7, 8 thank you
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#25
HEY,

One of the most annoying things about some believers is that they really do not want to grow. And it stems from a fear of what God will do with them or what they will have to give God.

They often know the verse "a man's life does not consist of his possessions" but...they really don't have the requisite faith to put it into practice.

God is good. God is kind. God is loving. God knows you better than you do.

Easy for people to say....hard for people to believe....especially when God seems absentee most of the time.

"Blessed are the pure/holy in heart for they shall see God"
Yeah....they missed this one too. But it is also true. And those who achieve this single mindedness will see God working all around them.

But the fact of the matter is that they have as much of God as they want....they want no more than they currently have....not really understanding that the life they lead now is the foundation upon which they will spend all eternity. It can be poor or rich in Christ...and will have a direct bearing upon their lifestyle in heaven.

Paul used a different metaphor discussing this talking about running a race and how some people have yet to get very far from the starting point of the race...they are hardly slow walking at all. I imagine him shouting and pleading "RUN!"....

And it all comes down to that seemingly odd question Jesus asked the lame man by the pool, "Do you want to be well?"

Some people say "yes" but really mean "no". They don't want to be well at all as they consider the cure to be worse than their disease. They are referred to by James as "double minded".

Just some thoughts for you to ponder....
truth be told, thanks trusting for God to live through me, not just in me also
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#26
Thank you for your response. I'm in a place where I search out the truth not just in scripture but by the Christians that I have relationships with. I find sometimes I see my gifts in others, there fore I feel a connection to those in Christ. the paradigm I struggle with has to do with a fellow who joined our church and small group a few months ago. A lady who I completely respect and care about as a fellow Christian told me she was moved by the Holy Spirit to help this man. So, I trusted her with this. I have put my faith in God/Jesus in helping this fellow with housing, furniture, and much more. Over the past few weeks I've spent time with him because of my desire to know this Christian who states he follows scripture, faith in everything he does. I watched him do many things that were sinful in actions with no regard for conscience/shame or anything. When I asked him about his actions in a very compassionate way. he quoted scripture that states "all have come short of the glory of God". This makes no sense to me. When I even think about doing something not right my conviction stops me in my tracks. So, my paradigm is I feel like I'm missing something from my faith. I love Jesus/God with all my mind, all my strength, and all my might. I have been given many gifts by the spirit and spread the news of Jesus to many people. Yet, something doesn't seem right. There fore my conflict with ME is where does my faith start and end in this journey.
It starts with your belief Son is risen for you too. God Father seals you in your belief to see and be taught new by God personally in you (Eph 1:13) to see Eph 1:6-7 as is done for you to do new by trust alone and not of the self to do it. The excuse is made for that person to get way with it, you revealed this to that person (Gal. 6:1-8) Now in. my opinion leave, stay away, because the person(s) there will trap you into sin that you have escaped from by trust in Thanksgiving and praise to God (Yet that old nature is trying to tempt you into it too)
People of the flesh never please God period as I have gotten trapped in that also in concern(s) for others. Trust and let God deal with this, and run Forest Run
You know the enemy is always out to kill, destroy and steal from anyone. What better way to do it, to act Asia you believe too and get anyone into them to help them, when their heart is not in it to you
Proverbs 23:1-7 reveals a lot to me be wise and stay harmless (Matthew 10:16-20), ask Father living in you and through you to take you over as in Luke 21:14-15 and get surprised too.
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#27
It starts with your belief Son is risen for you too. God Father seals you in your belief to see and be taught new by God personally in you (Eph 1:13) to see Eph 1:6-7 as is done for you to do new by trust alone and not of the self to do it. The excuse is made for that person to get way with it, you revealed this to that person (Gal. 6:1-8) Now in. my opinion leave, stay away, because the person(s) there will trap you into sin that you have escaped from by trust in Thanksgiving and praise to God (Yet that old nature is trying to tempt you into it too)
People of the flesh never please God period as I have gotten trapped in that also in concern(s) for others. Trust and let God deal with this, and run Forest Run
You know the enemy is always out to kill, destroy and steal from anyone. What better way to do it, to act Asia you believe too and get anyone into them to help them, when their heart is not in it to you
Proverbs 23:1-7 reveals a lot to me be wise and stay harmless (Matthew 10:16-20), ask Father living in you and through you to take you over as in Luke 21:14-15 and get surprised too.
Believe, receive and see, as long as one continues in belief one will see and grow up in maturity that might take a while yet it will be for all that do not quit as Job in the book of Job would not quit either thanks
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#28
God has got our backs for us in us all and works his done work of Son through us, it can take awhile to get though junk as I know I have been in also. Welcome
 
Apr 14, 2024
16
6
3
#29
Believe, receive and see, as long as one continues in belief one will see and grow up in maturity that might take a while yet it will be for all that do not quit as Job in the book of Job would not quit either thanks
I hope one day to have your faith and experience with Christ. I have been in a fight with demons just after I came to believe. Some days I feel the spirit and other days I feel like I'm under such adverse attack I often question if I am even saved. I feel like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. How can a man be both saved and be under huge bombardment by demons. The last time I felt the Holy spirit/God's love was 3 months ago. Since the nightmare has only gotten worse. I'm somewhat troubled with this individual who joined our group as he was in a dream I had last week that was demonic in nature. I can't say more than that but the seriousness of the attacks got worse after I met him and helped him with housing and many other things. One of my gifts is discernment and sometimes I see things in people I wish I didn't see. Anyway, you probably think I'm crazy, going on about this. I'm actually frightened. Have an amazing day and may the Holy Spirit impress upon you the truth of all things in your life. Take care.
 
Apr 14, 2024
16
6
3
#30
HEY,

One of the most annoying things about some believers is that they really do not want to grow. And it stems from a fear of what God will do with them or what they will have to give God.

They often know the verse "a man's life does not consist of his possessions" but...they really don't have the requisite faith to put it into practice.

God is good. God is kind. God is loving. God knows you better than you do.

Easy for people to say....hard for people to believe....especially when God seems absentee most of the time.

"Blessed are the pure/holy in heart for they shall see God"
Yeah....they missed this one too. But it is also true. And those who achieve this single mindedness will see God working all around them.

But the fact of the matter is that they have as much of God as they want....they want no more than they currently have....not really understanding that the life they lead now is the foundation upon which they will spend all eternity. It can be poor or rich in Christ...and will have a direct bearing upon their lifestyle in heaven.

Paul used a different metaphor discussing this talking about running a race and how some people have yet to get very far from the starting point of the race...they are hardly slow walking at all. I imagine him shouting and pleading "RUN!"....

And it all comes down to that seemingly odd question Jesus asked the lame man by the pool, "Do you want to be well?"

Some people say "yes" but really mean "no". They don't want to be well at all as they consider the cure to be worse than their disease. They are referred to by James as "double minded".

Just some thoughts for you to ponder....
I had been putting everything into my faith, not just words but living by the spirit in everything I do for Christ. Yet, sometimes I wonder. I put so much trust in the people I've met through the church I start questioning myself about my own faith. Even though I have these moments of peace and clarity, I sometimes feel such heavy attacks by I think are demonic in nature. This only happened after I came to believe. 8 months ago I had such a deep and moving experience that turned into something terrifying. Why do these things happen. I truly believe yet i now feel more terror than love. Sorry, I'm in a place I know nothing about and it terrifies me, and that is not Jesus or the HOLY SPIRIT. One of the reasons I came on this site was to find answers that I can't find at my church. About 3 weeks ago I went to the front of my church for prayers and the fellow gave me a strange look when I spoke the truth. I'll never got to the front again as I thought. I'll stop there. Have a great day.
 
Apr 14, 2024
16
6
3
#31
God has got our backs for us in us all and works his done work of Son through us, it can take awhile to get though junk as I know I have been in also. Welcome
thank you. sometime we/ii stand beside Jacobs well and look for the special guy ( Jesus) with the eternal water that never runs out. That's the water I want in my life, not a bling man leading a blind man but one who has eyes to see and understand. also following the heart of a man who sings the song of joy , the music that travels deep into a mans soul , and all of Gods precious children stand in the streets of Jerusalem waiting for the time to come,
 
Apr 14, 2024
16
6
3
#32
God will reveal all in God's timing not peoples timing. As is, to me in the way for one and many to hear truth over errors here in this world still. many not willing to be dead to their first birth of flesh nature. You want to see, be willing to be dead, here now presently between God and you.
God's walk through Son is real and true. Jesus went willingly to that cross, he could have by free choice stopped it and got off anytime he wanted to, and did not do that, why??????????????????????????????????//
Who would with all that power exposed go willingly to death, ( Jesus did that) As I see the disciples were distraught in that happening, They thought Jesus was going to be King here on earth and stop the Romans and free them. But that did not happen.
Then the resurrected ??????Jesus got revealed to over 500 witnesses, even Saul who became Paul to see to let go of tradition(s) and stand in trust to God alone in risen Son Jesus for him as stated in Phil 3 about the first born flesh nature of us the people to be born new in God's Spirit and Truth by belief to Son is risen for us all, to be placed in by belief to this truth and then see new To stop the arguing and fights over things to see 1 Cor 3
Read the entire Bible to know God personally and one will know God and not have to defend self ever again.
Thanks
James 4
From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume itupon your lusts. ...
Guilty, it is "I" that "I" speak of, thank you /Father to reveal this truth to me, I see to be dead to that first birth in flesh and blood daily
I see Romans 6,7, 8 thank you
So much truth in these words., There's a verse that says seek and you will find (with all your heart and all your strength......,). Yet, though my path to the Lord is straight, I fumble through darkness to find light. I sit at night and cry in the twilight of life, seeking the Lord and yet I hear only faint whispers. I yell and cry for his love, yet darkness continues in the depths of my soul. Sometimes, I get a twinkle little star, a brightness beyond measure, yet slowly disappears into the darkness. I stand between here and there, being pulled in so many ways, please Lord, pull me close and never let me go. My shadow moves between the tree of life and death, who am I to say where the branches touch my lingering light. yet above all that moves upon the earth is the spirit of the Lord in which I seek.....Will
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#33
I hope one day to have your faith and experience with Christ. I have been in a fight with demons just after I came to believe. Some days I feel the spirit and other days I feel like I'm under such adverse attack I often question if I am even saved. I feel like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. How can a man be both saved and be under huge bombardment by demons. The last time I felt the Holy spirit/God's love was 3 months ago. Since the nightmare has only gotten worse. I'm somewhat troubled with this individual who joined our group as he was in a dream I had last week that was demonic in nature. I can't say more than that but the seriousness of the attacks got worse after I met him and helped him with housing and many other things. One of my gifts is discernment and sometimes I see things in people I wish I didn't see. Anyway, you probably think I'm crazy, going on about this. I'm actually frightened. Have an amazing day and may the Holy Spirit impress upon you the truth of all things in your life. Take care.

I do not think you crazy, the Spirit world is as real as the air we all breath to be alive physically. The challenge is to become aware and not be scared or feared from the awareness of the truth Spiritual evil is real. The Spirit world, which one is born new into, once anyone believes God over anyone above all others ever.
The problem of seeing evil, being around evil (This world) affects everyone, some more than others. as a man thinks so is that man by his dominant thought(s)
If my thought is fear of, and that is constant in my mind then I am in fear am I not? Thought(s) control us period, at the moment one, anyone is in them at that present moment.
Proof: I am Angry that be my thought, Then I see I am angry, then I do not want to be angry, yet I am angry, and all the thought(s) over it, how, why and I care to not be angry, does not stop the angry thought(s) does it?
You understand this, since you have others that have done you wrong in the past, maybe present too, and might in the future. That is how thought(s) work in us the people.
That is why God


Hebrews 9:14-17

Authorized (King James) Version


14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that wereunder the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Now that can bring worry in from those verses above, worry brings in I am not good enough and thoughts come in that Are not our thoughts, from evil Spirits
When from God by Son is at the gate to Heaven sitting there at the right hand of Father for us, allowing us in to seek truth in whatever our situation is at the time going on in us. He took away evil for us to enter.


Psalm 100:4

Authorized (King James) Version

4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving,
and into his courts with praise:
be thankful unto him, and bless his name.


That above prediction is now done for us by Son Jesus for us to enter now, as evil does it's best for us to not enter by thought of I am not good enough. That is the fight. I am saying to you to go in and say You are not good enough and then thank you to God for Son who did this for you to be able to enter in as said would get done for you in


Psalm 103:12

Authorized (King James) Version

12 As far as the east is from the west,
so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.


By Son it is done for you to now enter in with praise and confidence in Thanksgiving for all sin today to be taken away by Son for you


John 1:29

Authorized (King James) Version

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Therefore the above verse right now presently and forever is it done by Son or not for you to enter? Did Jesus do what John said he came to do on that cross for you too?


1 John 2:1-4

Authorized (King James) Version

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

It is done for you too see the victory of Son for you and all the world, to get our mindset renewed from God Father to us, through us to see truth

The "IF" put in the verses actually from Greek mean "Since" in truth and may times are mistranslated for the word "IF" brings in doubt and God is not of Doubt at all.

1 John 4:17-18

Authorized (King James) Version

17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

So, see God loves you even though you have sinned and do it again, God continues to love you for you to see truth and willingly discern


Matthew 10:16-20

Authorized (King James) Version


16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 and ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


Matthew 10:16-20

Authorized (King James) Version

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 and ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.



Luke 21:14-15

Authorized (King James) Version

14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Christ yelled out from that cross in John 19:30, it is finished? What is finished? What he came to earth to do, is finished what did he come here to do?
Matthew 18 for you and all others too, leaving only one thing left to believe or not believe.


Love you stand in bel3ive to God in you through you and for you, no matter what goes on in your old mind set

Trusting God to reveal to you whatever is need for you to see and stand in belief to trust in his love and mercy to get you through this trouble happening in you around you and trying to do evil through you mover it.
I trust God to do as I know God does do, loves us all, otherwise Son would not have ever come to earth to take away sin for us first
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#34
So much truth in these words., There's a verse that says seek and you will find (with all your heart and all your strength......,). Yet, though my path to the Lord is straight, I fumble through darkness to find light. I sit at night and cry in the twilight of life, seeking the Lord and yet I hear only faint whispers. I yell and cry for his love, yet darkness continues in the depths of my soul. Sometimes, I get a twinkle little star, a brightness beyond measure, yet slowly disappears into the darkness. I stand between here and there, being pulled in so many ways, please Lord, pull me close and never let me go. My shadow moves between the tree of life and death, who am I to say where the branches touch my lingering light. yet above all that moves upon the earth is the spirit of the Lord in which I seek.....Will
God says to everyone "I" will never leave you or forsake you" since that be true, evil spirits try to not let us see this, by giving troubles to those in belief to see. Evil does not attack its own, unless evil repents from evil to God to be born new. When one does that it, the evil goes after these as in Job the book of, where Job never once denied God, so you do the same and see to not deny God over it all. Then you will see through too, in humility of it all and become content in all things good or bad as Paul saw.


Philippians 1:15-17

Authorized (King James) Version

15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16 the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 but the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

I will glory in everything good or bad that happen to me, What??????????????????????????????
Yep, everything, What? why
To glory all in all, then evil has not effect on you anymore
Think on the wise of Jesus to Pontious Pilate

As Pontious pilate said to Jesus do you not answer, do you not see the power I have over you? This power is given you by my Father, otherwise you have none.

see that in you too

  1. Luke 10:19
    Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and overall the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. 1 Corinthians 9:12
    If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

seeing to stand in trust to Father over it all as Jesus did, going to death willingly for us the people to be reconciled 2 Cor 5:17-20

Are you reconciled by God it is your free will choice to choose and then know and stand in as in Col 1:21-23 tells us so
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#35
So much truth in these words., There's a verse that says seek and you will find (with all your heart and all your strength......,). Yet, though my path to the Lord is straight, I fumble through darkness to find light. I sit at night and cry in the twilight of life, seeking the Lord and yet I hear only faint whispers. I yell and cry for his love, yet darkness continues in the depths of my soul. Sometimes, I get a twinkle little star, a brightness beyond measure, yet slowly disappears into the darkness. I stand between here and there, being pulled in so many ways, please Lord, pull me close and never let me go. My shadow moves between the tree of life and death, who am I to say where the branches touch my lingering light. yet above all that moves upon the earth is the spirit of the Lord in which I seek.....Will
Be careful to know truth over error here in this world, go to God in prayer daily and ask to discern and you will, might not get seen through you ar first, yet will, as long as you do not give up, no matter what


Proverbs 23:1-7

Authorized (King James) Version

23 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler,
consider diligently what is before thee:
2 and put a knife to thy throat,
if thou be a man given to appetite.
3 Be not desirous of his dainties:
for they are deceitful meat.
4 Labour not to be rich:
cease from thine own wisdom.
5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not?
for riches certainly make themselves wings;
they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.
6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye,
neither desire thou his dainty meats:
7 for as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:
Eat and drink, saith he to thee;
but his heart is not with thee.
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#36
thank you. sometime we/ii stand beside Jacobs well and look for the special guy ( Jesus) with the eternal water that never runs out. That's the water I want in my life, not a bling man leading a blind man but one who has eyes to see and understand. also following the heart of a man who sings the song of joy , the music that travels deep into a mans soul , and all of Gods precious children stand in the streets of Jerusalem waiting for the time to come,
The new well, is the risen Son, Jesus unto Father, the Holy Spirit to lead you new in truth and not condemn you as people and the self does that enough
 

homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
15,023
106
63
#37
I had been putting everything into my faith, not just words but living by the spirit in everything I do for Christ. Yet, sometimes I wonder. I put so much trust in the people I've met through the church I start questioning myself about my own faith. Even though I have these moments of peace and clarity, I sometimes feel such heavy attacks by I think are demonic in nature. This only happened after I came to believe. 8 months ago I had such a deep and moving experience that turned into something terrifying. Why do these things happen. I truly believe yet i now feel more terror than love. Sorry, I'm in a place I know nothing about and it terrifies me, and that is not Jesus or the HOLY SPIRIT. One of the reasons I came on this site was to find answers that I can't find at my church. About 3 weeks ago I went to the front of my church for prayers and the fellow gave me a strange look when I spoke the truth. I'll never got to the front again as I thought. I'll stop there. Have a great day.
No flesh will ever please God and many people are of the flesh and say they believe God and do not,


Matthew 10:16-20

Authorized (King James) Version

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 and ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


Romans 8:1-3

Authorized (King James) Version

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Read the Bible to know God Father of the risen Son Jesus for you, then you will be renewed in God's Spirit and Truth for you. You are a seer from what I hear in. me from Father and Son
You know truth over error and you see it immediately, sometimes a little later, you do see it, amen to you
 
Apr 14, 2024
16
6
3
#38
God says to everyone "I" will never leave you or forsake you" since that be true, evil spirits try to not let us see this, by giving troubles to those in belief to see. Evil does not attack its own, unless evil repents from evil to God to be born new. When one does that it, the evil goes after these as in Job the book of, where Job never once denied God, so you do the same and see to not deny God over it all. Then you will see through too, in humility of it all and become content in all things good or bad as Paul saw.


Philippians 1:15-17

Authorized (King James) Version

15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16 the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 but the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

I will glory in everything good or bad that happen to me, What??????????????????????????????
Yep, everything, What? why
To glory all in all, then evil has not effect on you anymore
Think on the wise of Jesus to Pontious Pilate

As Pontious pilate said to Jesus do you not answer, do you not see the power I have over you? This power is given you by my Father, otherwise you have none.

see that in you too

  1. Luke 10:19
    Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and overall the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. 1 Corinthians 9:12
    If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

seeing to stand in trust to Father over it all as Jesus did, going to death willingly for us the people to be reconciled 2 Cor 5:17-20

Are you reconciled by God it is your free will choice to choose and then know and stand in as in Col 1:21-23 tells us so
Thank you. I woke up this morning feeling free from attacks for the first time in 8 months. I had tears of joy and I thank God through Christ for this freedom. Because of people in Christ like you, people like me who are in bondage feel hope. Even if these attacks come back I now have strength and courage to follow Jesus so much more. I find this season for a reason that strengthens me in this journey. My hope for you is too continue to be fresh in your faith every day to help others that are seeking who one may come back to you when you need comfort and strengthening in Christ Jesus................................Will
 
Apr 14, 2024
16
6
3
#39
HEY,

One of the most annoying things about some believers is that they really do not want to grow. And it stems from a fear of what God will do with them or what they will have to give God.

They often know the verse "a man's life does not consist of his possessions" but...they really don't have the requisite faith to put it into practice.

God is good. God is kind. God is loving. God knows you better than you do.

Easy for people to say....hard for people to believe....especially when God seems absentee most of the time.

"Blessed are the pure/holy in heart for they shall see God"
Yeah....they missed this one too. But it is also true. And those who achieve this single mindedness will see God working all around them.

But the fact of the matter is that they have as much of God as they want....they want no more than they currently have....not really understanding that the life they lead now is the foundation upon which they will spend all eternity. It can be poor or rich in Christ...and will have a direct bearing upon their lifestyle in heaven.

Paul used a different metaphor discussing this talking about running a race and how some people have yet to get very far from the starting point of the race...they are hardly slow walking at all. I imagine him shouting and pleading "RUN!"....

And it all comes down to that seemingly odd question Jesus asked the lame man by the pool, "Do you want to be well?"

Some people say "yes" but really mean "no". They don't want to be well at all as they consider the cure to be worse than their disease. They are referred to by James as "double minded".

Just some thoughts for you to ponder....
thank you