Transgender pain

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Lynx

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Hey. Give me milk chocolate any day!🍫 Matter of fact I have asked God to build my mansion using only the finest of milk chocolate ingredients. I don't want to open the front door. I want to eat my way through the front door!
"...finest of milk chocolate ingredients" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as "finest" and "milk chocolate." :p
 

selahsays

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People who are on T or consider themselves male, in my case, are transitioned. Like I said there's a hole in my heart over not being able to take things further with surgery so far. "If" I went through with them, it would be easier to not hate God.
Your love for God is conditional (“If”). This is not good, not good at all. These flesh bodies we have now are only temporary, but our spiritual (immortal) bodies will be forEVER!
 

selahsays

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FYI, I love being female. I am woman, hear me roar :)
 

Evmur

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If you don't believe a transgender male is a valid male please don't comment I'm in pain and don't want my time wasted

I have been a Christian for 5 years been tortured by transgender pain since 5.
I hate God for ever being born. I love God for loving me while I curse him anyway.

I'm looking for prayers, if this was a right to die state I'd be in heaven with the Almighty God, Jesus, who will take away my tears.

I'm about to undergo 12 weeks of therapy in which I hope to convince my therapist that I have no quality of life, I'm so sickened by my female lie of a body. I want the therapist to then listen to my agony between being transgender and my hatred towards God for it
if you fight nature it will bite you ... hard.
 

Underwhosewings

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Your love for God is conditional (“If”). This is not good, not good at all. These flesh bodies we have now are only temporary, but our spiritual (immortal) bodies will be forEVER!
Amen! And…..

Romans 8:1 KJV
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh,
but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:16 KJV
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Our sinful nature is just obsessed with flesh, and what we see with our earthly eyes.

This awareness of the sinful body will pass, as we lift our eyes to behold our saviour and to walk after the spirit.
 

Evmur

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If you don't believe a transgender male is a valid male please don't comment I'm in pain and don't want my time wasted

I have been a Christian for 5 years been tortured by transgender pain since 5.
I hate God for ever being born. I love God for loving me while I curse him anyway.

I'm looking for prayers, if this was a right to die state I'd be in heaven with the Almighty God, Jesus, who will take away my tears.

I'm about to undergo 12 weeks of therapy in which I hope to convince my therapist that I have no quality of life, I'm so sickened by my female lie of a body. I want the therapist to then listen to my agony between being transgender and my hatred towards God for it
who you really hate is yourself

what if yourself could be nailed to a tree and die? it could be buried and rise again a new person.

This is what God has made possible by the cross, you can receive a NEW YOU simply by asking God to make the cross of Jesus effective in your life.

Jesus has made possible what is impossible to you ...

What you need is miracle transformation not therapy ... or soft soaping.
 

Evmur

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who you really hate is yourself

what if yourself could be nailed to a tree and die? it could be buried and rise again a new person.

This is what God has made possible by the cross, you can receive a NEW YOU simply by asking God to make the cross of Jesus effective in your life.

Jesus has made possible what is impossible to you ...

What you need is miracle transformation not therapy ... or soft soaping.
you will love the new you
 

Moses_Young

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I see a person wise in their own eyes. There is more hope for a fool than for them.
Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I don't fight my natural masculinity, I don't get bit. Others fight my natural masculinity, then it bites.

Masculinity is not gender. Gender is male or female. Femininity or masculinity is shaped by testosterone in men and estrogen and progesterone in women. Brain structure is different between men and woman as often an obvious example most woman are more in tune with the showing of emotion.

Some say culture or environment also defines these traits. As in we find it odd to see a man wear a skirt but to the Scots they traditionally wore kilts while less than a century ago it was frowned upon for women to wear blue jeans.

Culture and environment can only go so far because it is quite obvious throughout human history the vast differences in male and female have always made an obvious line in the sand despite what each culture wears or finds fascinating. Despite the kilts, the Scots we're definitely not mistaken as women and the modern woman today in blue jeans is definitely not mistaken as a men.

So as a Christian we should always ask how does God define man and woman?

To begin which has been said many times here. God made two unique genders but both are created in His image. Meaning in many ways we carry some of the same characteristics as God. In the ancient Hebrew language these characteristics can be seen within the gendered words.

Every word in the ancient language is categorized as male or female. Every noun is either a he or a she, and every adjective and verb has a male and female form.

For instance for God to initiate creation compliments the masculine tone of action. Where as God as the comforter compliments the feminine nature of nurturing. Again this plays to no affect on gender where God many times uses male to describe Himself. Father, Son, Son of man, Jesus (male).

It proves we despite the obvious biological differences are not strictly defined by masculine or feminine traits. For instance, Jacob was described a mother's boy who would have rather been in the house cooking where as Esau was the big hairy hunter. God never frowned upon Jacob being who he was but he judged the heart of his character. Never once was Jacob considered female.

To say otherwise is against reality itself. This is to tell me the grass is neon pink while 99% of the population says it's green while the 1% consists only of the mentally ill, handicap, color blind (nerve cells or cones are missing or don't work properly)
or an infant.

We should never allow the 1% to define reality when reality is self evident for the healthy of age human.
 
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[QUOTE="Roughsoul1991

To say otherwise is against reality itself. This is to tell me the grass is neon pink while 99% of the population says it's green....

We should never allow the 1% to define reality when reality is self evident.[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what the LGBTQ agenda is attempting to do. It is totalitarian. The authoritarian says, "Be silent". The totalitarian says, "You must agree with what I say or you are a bigoted transphobic"
 
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If you don't believe a transgender male is a valid male please don't comment I'm in pain and don't want my time wasted

I have been a Christian for 5 years been tortured by transgender pain since 5.
I hate God for ever being born. I love God for loving me while I curse him anyway.

I'm looking for prayers, if this was a right to die state I'd be in heaven with the Almighty God, Jesus, who will take away my tears.

I'm about to undergo 12 weeks of therapy in which I hope to convince my therapist that I have no quality of life, I'm so sickened by my female lie of a body. I want the therapist to then listen to my agony between being transgender and my hatred towards God for it
I think it's not widley understood that the law of the old testament is exclusively for children of Israel.
 

Blain

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Regardless of how you justifiy your judgement on such people who was it that Jesus showed the most compassion mercy and tenderness those? sinners. those looked down upon those judges unwaorthy if this aspect of him alludes us so much then we don't know him period.

Gay transgeder since when was that ever important to him? you want be a a true Christian learn to see through his eyes if you can't even understand the truth which is not doctrine or who is right in interpetstion then your not listening to the spirit follow of Chrit? see through his eys
 
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beaglehound

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Gay transgender since when was that ever important to him? (Jesus)
In what context does the Bible speak of marriage? The husband shall leave his mother and father and cleave to his Wife, NOT his husband

Read Mathew 19: 4,5 and see what Jesus says about marriage. Jesus was speaking of marriage between a man and a woman. Not two men. Jesus asks, " Have you not read the scriptures?"

Scripture always refers to marriage in the context of between a man and a woman. Jesus references the Old Testament. What does that tell you about his attitude towards homosexuality? Did he need to spell it out?
Yes, I think we are all trying to see things through Jesus eyes.
 

Blain

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In what context does the Bible speak of marriage? The husband shall leave his mother and father and cleave to his Wife, NOT his husband

Read Mathew 19: 4,5 and see what Jesus says about marriage. Jesus was speaking of marriage between a man and a woman. Not two men. Jesus asks, " Have you not read the scriptures?"

Scripture always refers to marriage in the context of between a man and a woman. Jesus references the Old Testament. What does that tell you about his attitude towards homosexuality? Did he need to spell it out?
Yes, I think we are all trying to see things through Jesus eyes.
Jesus ate and drank with sinners truly ponder the importance of that. These were consider the one you dare not go near for fear of their sins infecting you the outcasts the looked down upon if transgenders did every exist back then you can bet they would be among them.

Sure he knew all to well their sins but the thing about a filthy sinner is that they have molded to believe they cannot be saved or made clean the population make note of their sins pointed out what was wrong with them but Jesus instead saw past that knew the heart of the person and made some of the most devout followers of Christ from the lowest sinners.

If they are transgender fine yes the scri[ture is clear on how that is not ok but how many more scriptures speak on salvation redeption healing l;ife.
You want to change them or help them? change your methods you can argue how sinful they are you can point out every flaw that goes against scripture but Jesus still sees them more than worth dying for instead of damaging them by pointing out their flaws debating and even some I have seen trying to use scripture to debate prove them wrong show where they are wrong that was never the point of scripture the damage done is not from the eyes of Jesus

They will never change or be helped or healed in the way so many do and it is not even to help them it is to point out why they are wrong when these people are damaged beaten and seeking help.

So yeah anyone who claims to be Christian but makes the excuse of helping them by showing them the so called truth is a liar in my opinion if they truly wanted to show them truth they would be compassionate empathetic try to actually get to know the persons their struggles their lives that has left them so beaten
 

ResidentAlien

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So yeah anyone who claims to be Christian but makes the excuse of helping them by showing them the so called truth is a liar in my opinion
The truth is the only thing that can help anyone. You hate doing things God's way, so this comment doesn't really surprise me.
 

PennEd

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So yeah anyone who claims to be Christian but makes the excuse of helping them by showing them the so called truth is a liar in my opinion if they truly wanted to show them truth they would be compassionate empathetic try to actually get to know the persons their struggles their lives that has left them so beaten
I'm truly confused by this statement Blain.

Truth, without Love is brutality. No question about it. We MUST present truth in a loving, compassionate manner.

BUT, Love, WITHOUT truth is hypocrisy, and worse, leaves a person with a belief that their sin is acceptable in Jesus' eyes, and therefore isn't really sin at all!

Of course Jesus ate with sinners and showed them love and compassion. The woman at the well, the adulteress brought before Him, the tax collectors, Matthew, etc... But NOWHERE does Jesus EVER endorse their sin. His message is consistently "Go and sin no more".

WE haven't gone to this woman's house with placards, shouting "repent or die". SHE, came to a Christian website, and people have responded to a thread SHE started.

Of what value is there in telling her what she WANTS to hear, vs. what she NEEDS to hear?
 

Blain

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I'm truly confused by this statement Blain.

Truth, without Love is brutality. No question about it. We MUST present truth in a loving, compassionate manner.

BUT, Love, WITHOUT truth is hypocrisy, and worse, leaves a person with a belief that their sin is acceptable in Jesus' eyes, and therefore isn't really sin at all!

Of course Jesus ate with sinners and showed them love and compassion. The woman at the well, the adulteress brought before Him, the tax collectors, Matthew, etc... But NOWHERE does Jesus EVER endorse their sin. His message is consistently "Go and sin no more".

WE haven't gone to this woman's house with placards, shouting "repent or die". SHE, came to a Christian website, and people have responded to a thread SHE started.

Of what value is there in telling her what she WANTS to hear, vs. what she NEEDS to hear?
AS I have said before they know all of this they have been beaten down with the truth of their sins the gospel that speaks against their lifestyle that is what the gospel does it shows what must be healed and healed not purged not judged the sin that needs healing.

You can give the truth yes but how you go about it affects the results.

Denial comes from them because they were only shown how sinful and wrong their sin is they don't need to be shown the truth they purposely evoid it because they know it so well.

But make no mistake this is not a choice for them it is a genetic trait they were born with the desire for this deep inside but it is an identity crisis at the core
If they could see themselves as he sees them it would absolutely leave them speechless never even imagining that they could be seen as highly as he sees them why he died for them and that he made them perfect that this transgender this is them not accepting the perfection he created from inside the womb.


Why do speak of love when we can't see a damaged and hurting heart? why can't we look past this truth we claim we are presenting when the truth reaches out it knows and sees wounded child instead of all of this why is it no one thought to see the belood the this porr soul was bleeding?

I have been speaking to them personally I barely even finished reading their first post when I instinctively rushed to get a hold of them.

This is truth truth compells you truth sees a bleeding soul and your body just reacts truth is love compassion empathy the fiery resolve to stand and help for those who cannot stand on their own.

Healing is what is needed I speak of seeing from God's eyes I speak of the heart I speak of all these things I have said I am legally blind but even if I don't fully see with his eyes I saw what you could not and had I not intervened who knows hw far this poor person would have fallen.
 

gb9

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Ephesians 4 covers this, especially the what Paul said- " speak the truth in love".