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Apr 21, 2013
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Father, Forgive Them (Luke 23:34)

Yes, Correct me if I am wrong...

He said forgive "THEM"

Not the "BELIEVERS"
Not the ones who would become "BELIEVERS"

but "THEM"... who were not "BELIEVERS"

and those who might never ever become "BELIEVERS"
yet had responsibility for his death due to sin

Now, here's the million dollar question:

If the blood of Yeshua/Jesus...
paid for ..ALL.. Sin for ..ALL.. time-
regardless of you being a "BELIEVER" or not

WHY...OH WHY...
is there still Sin in the world

In the Sacrificial System that foreshadowed
what Yeshua/Jesus would come and accomplish upon this earth-

Only a Priest in the lineage of Aaron
could transfer all the sins of the children of Israel
to the head of the Sacrifice

Lev 16:21
And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the goat,
and confess over him ALL the iniquities of the children of Israel
and ALL their transgressions in ALL their sins,
putting them upon the head of the goat

Question:
After the sins were transferred-
and the upon the death of the Sacrifice

Were those sin still present
floating around in the wind

or were they gone forevermore?

They were gone!!

Now, follow me through on this...

When Yeshua/Jesus met John the Baptist

who was indeed the very last Priest in the lineage of Aaron-

Did he not take ..ALL.. the sins of the World
upon his head at his Baptism?

And even when John tried to question the Baptism;

Yeshua/Jesus quickly told him that it was "Necessary"
to fulfill all righteousness

Yeshua/Jesus knew that he could not proceed to the cross
without the sins of the world upon his head

If he did and was killed;

His death would be meaningless

Why??

He would have died
without having the sins on his head!!

Let's go back in time
to the Sacrificial System and imagine this:

If the Priest was lazy one day and decided not
to put the sins upon the head of the sacrifice-
but decided to just kill it and be done with it

Would this be acceptable to the Biblical Jehovah?

No Way!!

The sins had to be on the sacrifice
before it was killed-

no other way would be acceptable
than the very way God required it to be done

Now then..Let's say the Priest had a change of heart
and felt guilty for not having performed the ritual
exactly as God had required it to be done

and so he went to the already dead sacrifice
and proceeded to put the sins upon it-

AFTER IT WAS ALREADY DEAD

Can you tell me...

that you really and truly believe-
that this secondary effort would be acceptable
to the Bible Jehovah?

NO WAY!!

So tell me...
Why is it that Christians are taught to pray daily
putting their sins upon a sacrifice...

THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN KILLED?

Is this after the fact effort
ever going to be accepted
by the angry wrathful God of mans Bible?

NO!!

The only way...

to put your sins upon the sacrifice before it was killed

is to believe in the Baptism of John at the Jordan River...

where he put ..ALL.. the sins of the entire World
upon the head of Yeshua / Jesus

Herein is the ..LIE.. of Blood Atonement

for Wisdom and Knowledge reveal

that ..ALL.. sin is not gone
and in fact is still thriving upon the earth
and in it's inhabitants

Nothing is FINISHED

and the real reason for that
is actually quite simple:

We are here in this Mortal Life
(Furnace of Affliction)

in "school" so to speak
to learn to choose good over evil-
the greater over the lesser

7th Endowment 6:18
Thus are you first and foremost
a citizen of Heaven,

being in your present state
a sojourner from afar,

walking through a native land
in which you are a stranger

7th Endowment 3:22
born of God and everlasting,
to become yourself eternal always,
a child of Heaven sent down to earth
and filled with greater purpose

7th Endowment 6:18
For Heaven is your truer home and the angels are your brethren,
and in a place beyond your dreams you walked beside your God

7th Endowment 2:41
For you are more than you suppose
or even in your dreams perceived

In conclusion...

As you read my writings
you will become more and more aware

that the God of the man's Bible is the "IMPOSTER" God
much like the Pagan Gods who demand blood and a human sacrifice

Think about it a while...
Who could possibly be a greater anti-Christ

than the very one
who planned and arranged Yeshuas/Jesus' death-

The God of the Bible!!

He hated Yeshua/Jesus and killed him

while deceiving almost the entire world-
that this was a necessary death
(to pay for sins)
and that the death was ..OUR.. fault!!

and ponder this as well,
as to how this imposter Jehovah
has all the bases covered

and able to always claim
you still carry your sins

Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin willfully
after we have received the knowledge of the truth,
THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS

Tell me truly....

Do you know of any "Christians"

who have never sinned willfully
after receiving the knowledge of the truth??

THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS
 
Apr 21, 2013
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#42
The concept of Sin and Evil

has been misused by many religions
as a means of controlling and oppressing nations and people

When ..correctly.. defined
sin is considered to be acts of inhumanity

This correct definition frees people from the constraints
of perfectionism, judgment, shame, guilt, and control through moral tyranny

This ..understanding.. of sin
separates acts of inhumanity from that of imprudence and vice

Many religions consider acts of imprudence
and the natural drives of humans to be “sinful”
and punishable by God

This imposes a standard and culture
that puts the religion in the power position of judgment,

while the followers find themselves trying to live up to
unattainable standards that imprison them
by their very nature (i.e. their humanity)

Many behaviors that are considered to be sinful by religions
such as homosexuality, masturbation, and nudity

are not only free of sin,

but are natural responses to the person’s environment,
genetic structure, and evolutionary drives


The Heavenly Mother and Heavenly Father
celebrates the nature of humanity
while also differentiating between acts of prudence and sin

Smoking, drinking, lying, stealing, promiscuity,
taking God’s name in vain, etc

are acts of imprudence, vice, and personal impediment
that can only be sinful within the degrees of inhumanity

Some of the above could meet the definition of sin
if it was consciously done to significantly
harm oneself or other human beings

Religious systems and their blind followers
focus on the doctrine of perfection

thus they are divergent
to the understanding, acceptance, and tolerance of humanity

because it sets a criteria which people can never meet

Individual who claim or believe in a sense of perfectionism
cannot relate to humanity and are devoid
of the empathy needed for true compassion

As seen with many religions and pious churchgoers,

the intolerance of imperfection leads to
arrogance, judgment, and an inability to have compassion

These people and their belief systems
fail to take into account situational ethics
and moral complexity in their concept of sin

they indiscriminately judge themselves and others
based on a very basic understanding
of what is right and wrong

they fail to understand or recognize
how a “sinful” action could be considered acceptable
and even noble under particular circumstances-

a person who would not steal food to save his family
or lie to protect a person from undue persecution

because it went against the “word” of their god
might, in actuality, be the one committing the sin


Evil is basically acts of sin (inhumanity)
that are done in the name of God

Examples of such evil

would be people using religion
as a means of persecuting others, justifying war, oppressing women, etc. in the name of God

Not only do religions wrongfully claim
acts of imprudence and natural human drives as sinful,

but they add insult to injury
by imposing their own acts of inhumanity
on people they consider to be “sinners”

These churchgoers intimidate people into being “good”

by threatening punishment, vengeful recompense,
karmic retribution, and eternal damnation

This perverse form of justice has resulted in major atrocities

including millions of people being murdered
and tortured during the crusades, witch trials, and inquisitions

Your Heavenly Parents
do not punish you for sinful and evil acts

Like any good parent,
they view them with wisdom, compassion,
and as an opportunity for learning and redemption

They consider these acts

merely as slowing our progress of exaltation
rather than the opportunity for
punishment and eternal damnation

One must always keep in mind-

the false doctrines of judgment and hell
perverts and distorts mercy, compassion, and forgiveness

Refrain therefore from such bondage
as others would seek to impose upon you,

for there were many before you,
which being unsuspecting, did fall
prey to the ..doctrines.. of the past;

to become as slaves and prisoners
to that little god Jehovah

which would judge and damn
the whole of man forever and ever

For if you would deny
the passions which God has given you,

then shall the spirit within
become most dry and brittle;

and in your outward conscience
shall you become, little by little, mean and cruel;

becoming in your mind
most twisted and perverted
against the whole of all mankind
Second Endowment 6:15-16
 
Apr 21, 2013
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#43
GOOD and EVIL

Come, my child,
and in my wisdom some confidence take;

for I would have you know
that this capacity to do good and evil

have the Lords and Gods established
for the sake of all their lineage;

finding therein that gentle grace

which would give hope and comfort
unto all those who would live the mortal life

Consider, therefore, the consequences

if the Lords and Gods of this greater Light
were made incapable of doing evil,

being made all perfect within and without;

for if this were so,

then would there cease to be

any degree of compassion, or mercy, or forgiveness
of any who should be overcome by the lesser portion

And all which fall by way of some sin,
be it great or small,

would find in the Gods of glory

no degree of understanding,
being made incapable by way of perfection

For this cause has it been decreed

that unto all celestial beings
should there be found some small vice,

a slight but happy imperfection,
harmless yet delightful to the senses

For among the Gods is it rightly known

that such small imperfections
give birth to a greater wisdom

regarding the issues of that mortal life
wherein the children of God are made to live;

and there springs up in the bosom of all
a tender affection filled with wisdom
and compassion and mercy

For the Gods know full well

that in the living of the mortal life
is there found a time

when kindness is greater than judgment,

when compassion is more to be sought than piety;

This profound yet subtle wisdom

do all the Lords and Gods of this greater Light
tender gently among themselves

whereby holiness is made altogether
happy and filled with delight
1st Endowment 4:8-14
 
Apr 21, 2013
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#44
How good of a “potter” is the Biblical Jehovah?

Rom. 9:20-21
Who are you that replies against God?

Shall the thing formed [that’s us]
say to him that formed it, [that’s the Biblical Jehovah]

Why have you made me thus?

Has not the “potter” [the Biblical Jehovah]
power over the clay [mankind],

of the same lump

to make one vessel (person) unto honour,
and another (person) unto dishonor?"

The Biblical Jehovah says,
that he is the “potter” and we are his “pots”

Could anything be plainer?

The Biblical Jehovah, is the Potter,
and does not owe an explanation to the Pot

as to why he made the pot the way he so desired!

And the Biblical Jehovah desires…

to make some pots honorable
and some pots dishonorable

And oh so very, very sorry-

if you were one of the “pots”
that he desired to make unto dishonour

What chance did you ever really have??

Open your eyes people-
look around you… look in the mirror

The Biblical Jehovah…
is succeeding, in making his blind followers “in his image”

The Biblical Jehovah…
who is the angry, wrathful,
vengeful, jealous god of the old testament

switches masks in the new testament
to become the loving merciful Jehovah Jesus Saviour

and therefore, you can fully expect
that his blind followers will have “smiling faces”

as long as you don’t ruffle their feathers!!

The Biblical Jehovah is an imposter who reveals himself

as nothing more than a pagan god
who demands blood and a human sacrifice-

to somehow appease his anger with the “pots”
he supposedly created exactly as he so desired!!
 
Apr 21, 2013
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Knowledge/Wisdom

Many people have a measure of Knowledge-

but few people attain the Wisdom
to actually understand and apply such Knowledge

A perfect example:

The real reason Jehovah Yahweh
didn't want man to have the Knowledge of Good and Evil

was because...

if man acquired
the Knowledge of Good and Evil

man might also attain
the Wisdom to understand such Knowledge-

Such Knowledge and Wisdom combined...

would surely reveal
Jehovah Yahweh to be the Imposter God

After all,

who could possibly be a greater anti-Christ
than the very one who planned and arranged Yeshua's death-

The Imposter God of man's Bible!!

Who hated and killed Yeshua...

while deceiving almost the entire world
that his death was a necessary death

and his murder was OUR fault!!

there in...
lies the great lack of wisdom within the Christian religion
 
Apr 21, 2013
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Are you... worshiping a God of Failure?

A God Who always has to go from plan A to plan B

A God Who is running a "disaster control operation" from heaven

A God Who supposedly created creatures that he can not control-

Creatures that wrecked his original plan

And the foolish and unscriptural teaching…

is that God created a perfect archangel
who then sinned and rebelled against God

But… but… here is the evil in this teaching:

God did not intend, neither did he know
that this was ever going to happen!!!

Then, supposedly,

the Biblical God created perfect man
and put him in the garden of Eden,

and never intended for him to sin or rebel,
nor did he know it was going to happen!!

FOILED AGAIN!!

Then God sent His Son Jesus Christ
to be: "The SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD" (1John 4:15)

And now we are taught by most Christians
that JESUS CHRIST FAILED!!!

He wanted to save the world,
He tried to save the world,

it was, in fact, his very will
that all mankind be saved (1Tim 2:4 & 4:10),
but he just couldn’t do it

Man's phantom "free will"
proved to be far to powerful for the Son of God to overcome

FOILED AGAIN!!!

How many times must your Biblical God fail
before you find another God?

Maybe… just maybe…

It’s time for you to look past the Biblical Imposter
and finally find and meet the true God

The true God…
is not operating a "disaster control center"
from his throne of the universe

He is not trying to "pick up the pieces"
of a totally unexpected tragedy-
that he never saw coming

He is not trying to "figure out" a way
to somehow get things back to being as good as they once were

He is not trying to "figure out" a way to out smart Satan-

and he is not "falling behind" numerically
as far as how many will be saved and how many will be lost

The true God has a plan,
and he is working out that plan
to perfection on a perfect schedule

God has a "will" and he has his "intention"

there are times, when we will go against his will
accorded with his divine plan-

but we will never ever go against his intention-
which is his intended final result

Contrary to popular belief;
his "will" was that man would live in sin
and indeed would appear to be lost for a period of time

but his "intention" is for all to be saved,
and come to a knowledge of the truth-

that we have always been
the Sons and Daughters of the Most High

who were sent down to this “school” of “Opposition”
to learn to choose good over evil, the greater over the lesser

thus did God prepare that we,
their children should enter the mortal life

because the children of my soul
are unable to perceive or full embrace with understanding

the good which herein heaven dwells;

for in their brief but happy life
have they known not this glory in which they live;

for in all their life were they given no opposition
by which to compare the things of greatest worth,

Possessing in themselves
no understanding of all our goodness

for they know not evil,

having themselves no deeper knowing of all our joy,

for they know not sorrow, they know not the darkness


Now is the time when our children
must become themselves full grown and fully knowing
in the ways of their Father and Mother together

For what wise and goodly parent would firm demand
that even all their children should remain
as little babes forever

For even though such innocence prove natural and good
in the hearts of little children,

still would it prove unseemly and hurtful
in those which would stand full grown,

causing that they should appear as dimwitted
and ill prepared in the handling of greater issues

For this law proves ever constant:

that it is in the nature of all living things
to grow and full mature,

and that thing which should prove itself unable,
even it shall quickly perish, to become itself no more


This then be the school where we shall send our children,

being ourselves most diligent to guide them
in the living of their mortal lives;

for we will not permit
that any should be lost or vanished away because of evil;

neither shall we full permit that circumstances should
prove too great a burden for the children of our soul


The Purpose of "Opposition"

Know ye not...
that it is ..Opposites..
that bring about great Wisdom!!

Light defines Dark... yet Dark also defines Light
Joy defines Sorrow...yet Sorrow also defines Joy
Sweet defines Bitter...yet Bitter also defines Sweet

Reject ..not.. therefore the Lesser Portion (opposition)
while you would readily choose the Greater Portion

For within the Fires of "Opposition" is the Wisdom you seek

Do you understand this?

True Wisdom is brought forth through Understanding

and without Understanding
is there given no substance wherein Wisdom might grow

Wherefore and Henceforth

Endure Opposition with a Calmly Acceptance
towards ..all.. those things that shall come upon you

and display Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness

towards ..all.. those people
who would attack the "Dark Speaker" (EGO) within you

For within this school of "Opposition"

we are given evil
so we can find and appreciate good

we are given wrong
so we can find and appreciate right

we are given sorrow
so we can find and appreciate joy

we are given lesser
so we can find and appreciate greater

we are given an imposter god
SO WE CAN FIND AND APPRECIATE THE REAL GOD


Heavenly Mother speaking:

Let us therefore, see for ourselves,
the God which men shall choose to follow

the god of wrath,
or
the God of Love

the god of judgment
or
the God or the Father and Mother
which even now would call most tenderly unto them

Let us see, by what path
the children of men shall choose to walk:

The path of fear and servitude,
or the path to endless glory and exaltation

Would you like to finally meet
your true Heavenly Mother and Father?
 
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You need your own website.
 
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Ugly

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#48
towhom... First, this is the section for new users to tell a little about themselves, not go on inane, excessive, religious rants. So please stop posting in this section.
Second, very few, if any, will actually sit and read all this. Its all been said before, you're not saying anything new. You are just coming across as a raving lunatic more than anything, just regurgitating someone else ranting theories. Keep this up and i'd be surprised if you last long on this site. People who push these types of beliefs usually get banned. So yeah.
This is a Christian site and if all your goal is is to turn people from bible based Christianity to follow someone elses self styled religious concepts, it's not tolerated.
So grab your bottle of ADD meds, and make sure you pop a few before coming back on.
 
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kenisyes

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towhom... First, this is the section for new users to tell a little about themselves, not go on inane, excessive, religious rants. So please stop posting in this section.
Second, very few, if any, will actually sit and read all this. Its all been said before, you're not saying anything new. You are just coming across as a raving lunatic more than anything, just regurgitating someone else ranting theories. Keep this up and i'd be surprised if you last long on this site. People who push these types of beliefs usually get banned. So yeah.
This is a Christian site and if all your goal is is to turn people from bible based Christianity to follow someone elses self styled religious concepts, it's not tolerated.
So grab your bottle of ADD meds, and make sure you pop a few before coming back on.
Yes, but I said it nicer......