Why so much confusion about salvation?

You ignore the simple fact that we all sin. Do you know the law and try to keep it? It is scattered through the Torah! Here it is. Disobeying any of these laws is sin.

In addition to the 10 commandments there are the laws scattered through the Torah.

List of the 613 laws in the Torah
http://www.gods-word-first.org/bible-study/613commandments.html

Discussion about the 613 laws in the Torah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments

Never the less, here is the truth -

3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. 1 John 2:3-6



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I agree with every point including the first two - agree 100%! Amen and amen and amen and amen!

And when all that is said - Amen again another hundred times!

So you are saying you never sin. Are you sure you keep all 613 laws in the Torah? Do you even know what they are? Remember ignorance of the law is no excuse.

A Christian should strive to do what is right but we ALL SIN!!

Which is a deceiving translation of that verse.

Amen! That is the salvation offered by Jesus and provided for by His death and resurrection...to walk as Jesus walked.

But this is not the agenda of men...who want salvation for nothing...with no purpose other than to be saved.

But God has a purpose in Christ...called the truth...which is REALLY unpopular, even around these parts.

God bless you brother.

Salvation is FROM sin. Many want just to be made not responsible for sin...but that is not according to truth or righteousness.

we are to be made the righteousness of God...towards people here on Earth. But that must be without sin...nor spot, nor wrinkle.

So then people who don't understand what it means to overcome sin...don't yet understand salvation.

All I know is that I'm fed up with this world and I don't even want to be in it anymore. I'm fed up with being threatened by other people and feeling unsafe.

On the other hand, I find myself having the desire to enjoy feminine pleasures of this world. I want to enjoy perfumes and soft blankets and nail polish that shifts and glimmers in different types of light and essential oils that make me feel nurtured and loved and snuggling with kitties and eating chocolate.

It's all so ironic.

And I am blamed for being fed up with how the world is. I can't feel angry, I can't feel fear; I can't do this, I can't do that. I can't win, that's what I can't do.

Where are the restriction on cosmetics in the Bible? I just did a Google search and found them being used. Same with nice blankets. Christianity doesn't adhere to the stoic rejection of comfortable living. Somewhere you came across something saying this erroneously.

How can I be ignoring the fact that we all sin? I made the distinction between struggling with sin and living in it. I made no mention of sinless perfection.

Then he goes on to describe in Romans 8 that this deliverance through Jesus Christ is having the Spirit in salvation.

For the saved person that means walking in the Spirit you have within you. For the unsaved person that means getting the Spirit in salvation (then walking in it).

I think all the confusion comes from the 50 million different doctrins that all the different churches bicker about

Why would you think a gentile living in the USA who is in Christ would be under the law of Moses?

Yes sir.

Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ.

Not just grace.

Most folks don’t understand that grace is freely given to us who believe, which is the ability to do what we could not with out it.

Grace is the ability to practice righteousness, just as Christ and His disciples did.

Grace is the Holy Spirit; The Spirit of Grace.


Being under the law of Moses means being under obligation to obey the law.


Likewise being under grace means we are under obligation to obey the Spirit of Truth, who dwells within us.



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Because people don't understand what salvation is.... Some how they feel they have to work for it, get rid of their sins, get clean before they can come to God. It's hard to believe that something as precious as salvation is a FREE GIFT that has been given to us by God himself....

It's free - you don't have to do anything to earn it because there is NOTHING you can do to earn it. You will never be good enough, clean enough or work hard enough to earn your salvation.

There is only one who could fit the bill and that is JESUS. He died and paid the price for all of our sins and there is nothing you can do except to accept this free gift. Ask Jesus to come into your heart and give you the ability to repent and ask for forgiveness then give your heart to Jesus/God and allow the Holy Spirit to work in you and then you will have a new life and a new heart the former things pass away and you can reach out and take hold of the GIFT of salvation....

The calling is without repentance....but not so the election

We are also required to have faith which leads us to bearing fruit.

John 15:4-6

Here, you can snuggle with my kitties for a while. > https://christianchat.com/media/sam_0373-jpg.231/

They are all aspects of the truth. It depends "where" you are. By "where" I mean spiritual condition!