No soul sleep

In Heb 11; We're told of those who have gone before us that we're faithful.
Then in Heb 12:1, we're told, "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us."
They can't be witnesses if they're asleep!

They can't be witnesses if they're asleep!

Exactly. I already pointed this out in another thread. If there were witnesses at a crime scene or in a courtroom who were napping, they would not be witnesses.

In Heb 11; We're told of those who have gone before us that we're faithful.
Then in Heb 12:1, we're told, "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us."
They can't be witnesses if they're asleep!

If you reject the witness of people because they have died, you must then reject the whole of the Bible.

They are witnesses through the written word

False. They are witnesses watching Christians run their Christian race on earth.

What are you talking about?

I can make the same remark - False. The dead can't see therefore they can't be watching anything. "the dead KNOW NOTHING" . . .

Already debunked. Read and study Luke 16.

If the righteous dead (who are actually alive in Christ and with Christ at present) can see nothing HOW CAN THEY BE CALLED WITNESSES? Witnesses are eye-witnesses, so that automatically refutes your misunderstanding.

"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord."
There is a doctrine called soul sleep, which says that those who have died are asleep until they are resurrected. I'm trying to show that when we die we go to be with the Lord and yet are still aware of events here on the Earth...

They are witnesses through the written word - Abraham and Sarah conceiving in their old age because they believed God, Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only begotten son, Isaac, knowing that God would raise him from the dead (a foreshadow of our Lord) is a witness to Abraham's belief. Noah, building the ark is a witness to Noah's belief in God - Moses' parents hid him for three months after he was born because they believed God had something in store for him and Moses refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh's daughter, choosing to be mistreated along with the people of God, looking forward to his reward all because he believed God, etc. . . . . All these recorded records are to instill in us belief in God and perseverance . . . . that is how they are witnesses.

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1 Thess 4:14

Exactly. I already pointed this out in another thread. If there were witnesses at a crime scene or in a courtroom who were napping, they would not be witnesses.

This verse AUTOMATICALLY REFUTES your false doctrine. So it is good that you quoted it.

Please note "will God bring with Him". Since Christ is in Heaven, and soul sleep claims that the righteous dead are sleeping in their graves, how in the world would Christ -- from Heaven -- "bring" those who are in their graves (according to you and the cults) at the Rapture? That would be a TOTAL ABSURDITY.

Those who "sleep" in Jesus are simply those who died in Christ, and their bodies appear to be sleeping in their graves when put to rest (initially). Later on the bodies become dust. But their souls and spirits are alive in Heaven with Christ, who will "bring" them from Heaven to join them with their immortal, resurrected, and glorified bodies.

Now please note carefully the connection between the body sleeping in the grave and the soul and spirit being very much alive with Christ (since there is no sleeping in Heaven).
And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles. And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him. (Acts 7:59,60; 8:1,2).

So what do we see here?

Although Stephen is reported as being dead (because of the stoning) the Bible says "he fell asleep". Only a dishonest person would claim that he was merely sleeping. But what did Stephen say about his spirit, and where was Christ when He was addressed by Stephen? Christ was in Heaven, and Stephen asked Him IN HEAVEN to receive his spirit. So upon death the soul and spirit of Stephen went to be with Christ (and be very much alive), but his dead body appeared to be sleeping the grave.

Can you see how this incident TOTALLY DEBUNKS soul sleep?

Exactly. I already pointed this out in another thread. If there were witnesses at a crime scene or in a courtroom who were napping, they would not be witnesses.

What are you talking about?

Aren't you the one who is rejecting the witness of the Rich Man and Lazarus and Abraham, who were very much alive in Hades, even after they died on earth?

Christ was also very much alive in Hades, since He went there to preach to the spirits in prison (1 Peter 3:19). But His body was in the tomb. Which shows us that translating Sheol as "the grave was a HUGE MISTAKE.

What did Jesus say prophetically, and how was this fulfilled in reality?
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell [Hades], neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Acts 2:27)

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell [Sheol]; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Psalm 16:10)

This verse AUTOMATICALLY REFUTES your false doctrine. So it is good that you quoted it.

Please note "will God bring with Him". Since Christ is in Heaven, and soul sleep claims that the righteous dead are sleeping in their graves, how in the world would Christ -- from Heaven -- "bring" those who are in their graves (according to you and the cults) at the Rapture? That would be a TOTAL ABSURDITY.